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TAMPA CITY COUNCIL
THURSDAY, AUGUST 28, 2025, 9:00 A.M.

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9:04:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: TAMPA CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
9:04:48AM I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
9:04:50AM IF EVERYBODY WOULD PLEASE RISE FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE
9:04:55AM AND A RECOGNITION OF WHAT HAPPENED IN MINNEAPOLIS YESTERDAY
9:05:00AM MORNING, THE SENSELESS LOSS OF LIFE THROUGH GUN VIOLENCE
9:05:04AM ONCE AGAIN AFFECTING CHILDREN.
9:05:06AM TOO MANY CHILDREN IN THIS COUNTRY HAVE DIED AS A RESULT OF
9:05:10AM GUN VIOLENCE.
9:05:11AM [MOMENT OF SILENCE]
9:05:19AM THANK YOU.
9:05:20AM PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
9:05:21AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:05:37AM ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
9:05:39AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:05:39AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:05:40AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
9:05:41AM >> VIERA?
9:05:41AM CARLSON?

9:05:42AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
9:05:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
9:05:44AM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:05:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WOULD LIKE TO RECEIVE A MOTION TO
9:05:47AM APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM AUGUST 7 AND THE EVENING SESSION OF
9:05:50AM AUGUST 21st.
9:05:51AM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:05:53AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:05:54AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
9:05:56AM OPPOSED?
9:05:56AM THE AYES HAVE IT.
9:05:58AM THANK YOU.
9:05:58AM APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA.
9:06:03AM WE HAVE A REQUEST FOR ITEM NUMBER 2 FROM F.D.O.T. TO
9:06:06AM CONTINUE THAT ITEM TO 9/18.
9:06:11AM CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION ON THIS ONE?
9:06:13AM MAYBE IT'S OUT OF ORDER.
9:06:15AM THIS CAME FROM -- IT'S BEEN ON THE AGENDA SINCE 2020.
9:06:19AM COULD WE HAVE THIS REMOVED FROM THE AGENDA AND MAYBE RETHINK
9:06:22AM WHAT WE'RE ASKING FROM THEM MORE SPECIFIC?
9:06:25AM >>BILL CARLSON: WELL, IT WAS ON THE CRA AGENDA FOR MANY,
9:06:27AM MANY YEARS BEFORE THAT.
9:06:29AM AND I SUGGESTED MOVING IT TO CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE BEFORE
9:06:35AM THEN WORKFORCE ONLY AFFECTING CRA AREAS.
9:06:38AM WE MOVED IT SO THEY COULD UPDATE US ON WHATEVER THEY WANTED

9:06:42AM CITYWIDE.
9:06:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WAS THINKING IF SOMEBODY WOULD COME UP
9:06:45AM WITH SOMETHING VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT SPECIFIC PROJECTS MAYBE.
9:06:50AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE ACTUALLY DID THAT.
9:06:51AM THAT'S WHAT THEY WILL BE DOING IN SEPTEMBER IS COMING WITH
9:06:53AM SPECIFIC PROJECTS.
9:06:54AM I THINK AFTER THE SEPTEMBER PRESENTATION, MAYBE WE CAN
9:06:57AM REVISIT.
9:06:59AM >>BILL CARLSON: INSTEAD OF TAKING OFF THE AGENDA, MAYBE WE
9:07:02AM DO, AS YOU SAY, NARROW THE SCOPE.
9:07:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: REMOVE THIS ONE AND INTRODUCE A NEW ONE SO
9:07:07AM IT'S CURRENT AND APPLICABLE TODAY.
9:07:13AM >>BILL CARLSON: JUST THIS ONE TODAY WE'RE MOVING.
9:07:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CONTINUE THIS AND HAVE IT REMOVED -- OKAY.
9:07:18AM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
9:07:20AM A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:07:21AM TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM UNTIL SEPTEMBER 18.
9:07:27AM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
9:07:28AM OPPOSED?
9:07:28AM AYES HAVE IT.
9:07:29AM I NEED A MOTION TO REMOVE ITEM 76 FROM THE AGENDA PER
9:07:33AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK'S REQUEST.
9:07:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE ONLY REASON I'M REMOVING IT IS BECAUSE WE
9:07:40AM HAD A PRETTY LENGTHY DISCUSSION ALREADY THIS MONTH BEFORE
9:07:44AM STORMWATER DURING THE STORMWATER BUDGET.

9:07:47AM IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE TAKING IT AWAY.
9:07:49AM WE'RE JUST GIVING THEM A DUE BREAK MOVING FORWARD.
9:07:52AM THEY WILL HAVE THE REPORT ONLINE, I BELIEVE.
9:07:55AM BUT WE WILL GO TO NEXT MONTH TO TALK ABOUT STORMWATER.
9:08:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
9:08:04AM MANISCALCO.
9:08:05AM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:08:08AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
9:08:10AM OPPOSED?
9:08:10AM AYES HAVE IT.
9:08:11AM WE HAVE A REQUEST FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA TO CONTINUE ITEM 77
9:08:18AM TO NOVEMBER 6.
9:08:21AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:08:23AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:08:24AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
9:08:26AM THE AYES HAVE IT.
9:08:27AM WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE WRITTEN STAFF REPORTS.
9:08:34AM IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WAS ON HERE?
9:08:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THERE IS A REQUEST THAT THE ANNUAL REPORT OF
9:08:40AM BODY WORN CAMERAS BE DISCONTINUED.
9:08:43AM I STILL THINK THAT'S RELEVANT AND IMPORTANT.
9:08:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT IS COUNCIL'S THOUGHT ABOUT THAT?
9:08:54AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: ARE YOU GOING THROUGH THE STAFF --
9:08:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WRITTEN STAFF REPORTS.
9:08:58AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WOULD LEAVE IT ON.

9:08:59AM WHEN THEY WERE IN TEST PHASE AND THEN EXPANDED THEM, THE
9:09:06AM COMMUNITY WAS IN FAVOR AND THE POLICE IN FAVOR, SO IT
9:09:08AM BENEFITS BOTH.
9:09:09AM NOT FOR OR AGAINST ANYBODY.
9:09:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS HAS BEEN ON SINCE '21.
9:09:17AM WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO TAKE OWNERSHIP IN THIS, REMOVE THIS
9:09:22AM ITEM FROM THE AGENDA AND THEN COME BACK WITH SOMETHING THAT
9:09:25AM WAS --
9:09:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT'S NOT REMOVING FROM THE AGENDA.
9:09:28AM THERE IS A WRITTEN REPORT, WE'RE STUDIO RECEIVE AND FILE IT.
9:09:32AM MAYBE COUNCILMAN VIERA, SINCE IT'S HIS COMMITTEE, COULD TALK
9:09:36AM TO THE CHIEF ABOUT THE MODIFICATION OF IT.
9:09:42AM >> DELIGHTED.
9:09:43AM >> CAN WE APPROVE THE CHIEF'S REQUEST TO REMOVE THIS AND
9:09:46AM COUNCILMAN VIERA WILL TAKE AN IOU TO REWORK THIS IN A MORE
9:09:50AM APPLICABLE WAY?
9:09:51AM >>LUIS VIERA: I MEAN, MAYBE I CAN SPEAK AND UPDATE YOU ALL
9:09:54AM ON IT NEXT WEEK.
9:09:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE'RE JUST GOING TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE
9:09:58AM WRITTEN REPORT.
9:09:59AM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
9:10:02AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:10:03AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
9:10:05AM OPPOSED?
9:10:05AM AYES HAVE IT.

9:10:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK: 82 NEEDS TO BE CONTINUED TO SEPTEMBER 4.
9:10:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO
9:10:15AM CONTINUE ITEM 82 TO SEPTEMBER 4.
9:10:17AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:10:18AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
9:10:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE REASON MS. WYNN TOLD ME, THE PowerPoint
9:10:24AM IS READY, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE CLEARER FOR
9:10:29AM UNDERSTANDING.
9:10:29AM IT'S TRULY MOVING TO NEXT WEEK.
9:10:31AM WE'RE NOT MOVING THIS FORWARD.
9:10:32AM THIS IS ABOUT JULIAN B. LANE RIVER CENTER AND THE
9:10:36AM TRANSPARENCY AND NEW POLICY UPDATES.
9:10:38AM THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON WAS WORKING
9:10:42AM ON CLOSELY.
9:10:44AM I DON'T WANT THE PUBLIC TO THINK WE'RE STOPPING IT.
9:10:46AM WE'RE JUST MOVING IT TO NEXT WEEK.
9:10:48AM THE WRITTEN TREE CANOPY STUDY NEEDS TO BE CONTINUED TO
9:10:51AM NOVEMBER 6.
9:10:57AM >>BILL CARLSON: I MOVE TO CONTINUE TO NOVEMBER 6.
9:10:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON TO CONTINUE
9:11:02AM ITEM 83 TO NOVEMBER 6, 2025.
9:11:05AM THAT'S FROM STAFF.
9:11:06AM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:11:08AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
9:11:10AM OPPOSED, SAY NO.

9:11:12AM THE AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUS.
9:11:15AM >>BILL CARLSON: THE IDEA OF THIS WAS THAT WE COULD TAKE A
9:11:18AM SNAPSHOT AFTER THE HURRICANES.
9:11:20AM IT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE DONE A YEAR AGO.
9:11:23AM THE LONGER WE WAIT, THE MORE CHANCE DEVELOPMENT WILL GET IN
9:11:29AM AND WON'T HAVE AN ACCURATE READING OF WHAT THE HURRICANES
9:11:31AM DID.
9:11:31AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THERE WILL NOT BE A STAFF REPORT.
9:11:35AM EVERYBODY WISH CHIEF BENNETT GOOD THOUGHTS.
9:11:38AM HE'S NOT FEELING WELL TODAY.
9:11:40AM I BELIEVE HE WILL BE WATCHING US ON TV AND AVAILABLE IF WE
9:11:43AM NEEDED HIM.
9:11:44AM NO ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT TODAY.
9:11:45AM ANYBODY ELSE WITH THE AGENDA?
9:11:50AM STAFF REPORTS.
9:11:54AM >>BILL CARLSON: ONE THING BEFORE I GET A LETTER FROM THE
9:11:56AM MAYOR?
9:11:56AM I MISSPOKE.
9:11:59AM THIS TREE CANOPY WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN DONE SEVERAL
9:12:03AM MONTHS AGO, NOT LAST YEAR, JUST TO CORRECT THE RECORD.
9:12:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: RECORD CORRECTED.
9:12:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DEFINITELY WANT TO SEE THE REVISED
9:12:16AM RESOLUTION FOR 69.
9:12:17AM I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THAT ON.
9:12:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE WANT STAFF FOR 69.

9:12:23AM DO WE WANT STAFF FOR 70?
9:12:28AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE ALREADY HAVE THE DISCUSSION.
9:12:30AM I THINK WE CAN JUST APPROVE IT.
9:12:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: 71?
9:12:33AM ERIC WEISS IS AVAILABLE.
9:12:38AM NO.
9:12:42AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: PLEASE ANNOUNCE IT, MR. CHAIRMAN SO THE
9:12:44AM STAFF LISTENING CAN KNOW.
9:12:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE DO NOT REQUIRE STAFF FOR 70 OR 71.
9:12:49AM 72?
9:12:51AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: [INAUDIBLE]
9:12:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
9:12:53AM I JUST WANT TO SAY I'M REALLY THANKFUL THAT HILLSBOROUGH
9:12:56AM COUNTY IS GIVING US $13 MILLION TO FIX THEIR INTERSECTIONS.
9:13:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JUST IN CASE YOU DIDN'T DETECT THAT.
9:13:06AM WE DO NOT REQUIRE STAFF FOR ITEM 72.
9:13:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OR 73 BECAUSE THEY GO TOGETHER.
9:13:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OR 73, YOU'RE RIGHT.
9:13:14AM 74?
9:13:16AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: [INAUDIBLE]
9:13:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OKAY.
9:13:18AM THERE WAS A CONSULTANT AVAILABLE FOR 74.
9:13:20AM WE'RE GOING TO LOOK FORWARD TO STAFF'S REPORT ON 74.
9:13:23AM 75?
9:13:27AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: [INAUDIBLE]

9:13:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON, IT'S YOURS.
9:13:30AM >>BILL CARLSON: STAFF DOESN'T HAVE MORE TO THAT.
9:13:33AM THERE MAY BE PEOPLE IN PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WANT TO SPEAK.
9:13:37AM FOR NOW, THE NEIGHBORS IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA ARE GOING TO
9:13:39AM HANDLE IT WITH STAFF AND SEE WHAT THEY REALLY GET.
9:13:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STAFF, WE DO NOT NEED YOUR PRESENCE FOR
9:13:44AM ITEM 75.
9:13:47AM >>BILL CARLSON: SHOULD WE RECEIVE AND FILE IT?
9:13:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE?
9:13:51AM >>BILL CARLSON: SO MOVED.
9:13:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FOR EVERYTHING THAT WE DID NOT REQUIRE A
9:13:56AM STAFF REPORT ON.
9:13:57AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WAIT A SECOND, IF I CAN -- YEAH, ESPECIALLY
9:14:02AM ON THE BIG TICKET ITEMS.
9:14:04AM WHEN YOU ARE DONE WITH THE CONSENT DOCKET, WE CAN GO BACK TO
9:14:06AM THE ONES THAT CAN BE MOVED.
9:14:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, ATTORNEY SHELBY.
9:14:11AM MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA?
9:14:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK: DO WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE SUBSTITUTES?
9:14:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DEAL WITH THEM WHEN THEY COME UP?
9:14:20AM >>LUIS VIERA: FOR 77, WAS THAT ALREADY MOVED TO NOVEMBER 6?
9:14:23AM THANK YOU.
9:14:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WOULD DEFER TO COUNCILMAN VIERA TO AN
9:14:28AM ACKNOWLEDGMENT FOR SPECIAL GUESTS WE HAVE IN CHAMBERS.
9:14:30AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.

9:14:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
9:14:34AM SECONDS FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:14:35AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
9:14:37AM OPPOSED?
9:14:37AM THE AGENDA IS APPROVED.
9:14:39AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:14:40AM I WANTED TO WELCOME STUDENTS FROM REALIZING EXCEPTIONAL
9:14:43AM ACHIEVEMENTS, A COMMUNITY HOSPITAL.
9:14:46AM REALIZING EXCEPTIONAL ACHIEVEMENTS COMMUNITY HOSPITAL ALSO
9:14:49AM KNOWN AS REACH, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOL ADULT
9:14:52AM EDUCATION PROGRAM THAT PROVIDES TRAINING AND SUPPORT TO
9:14:54AM YOUNG ADULTS.
9:14:55AM REACH OFFERS EACH STUDENT AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLORE CAREER
9:15:00AM OPTIONS, UTILIZE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, AND IMPROVE
9:15:02AM SELF-ADVOCACY AND SOCIAL SKILLS THAT WILL ENSURE THEIR
9:15:05AM POTENTIAL AS SUCCESSFUL, INDEPENDENT, AND CONTRIBUTING
9:15:07AM MEMBERS OF SOCIETY.
9:15:08AM I WANTED TO WELCOME THESE NICE FOLKS HERE.
9:15:10AM I DIDN'T KNOW, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF IT WOULD BE OKAY IF EACH
9:15:14AM STUDENT CAME UP, IF THEY ARE COMFORTABLE, AND GAVE THEIR
9:15:17AM NAME.
9:15:17AM THERE'S ABOUT A DOZEN.
9:15:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HEARING NO OBJECTION, APPROVED.
9:15:21AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
9:15:22AM IF YOU WANT TO COME UP AND GIVE YOUR NAMES, WE WOULD BE

9:15:25AM DELIGHTED.
9:15:25AM THANK YOU.
9:15:41AM >> CAMERON.
9:15:42AM >> CRYSTAL.
9:15:42AM >> EMMA.
9:15:51AM >> CONNER.
9:15:58AM >> ANDREW.
9:16:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD MORNING, ANDREW.
9:16:03AM >> NICE TO MEET YOU.
9:16:06AM >> MY NAME IS SAMANTHA.
9:16:11AM >> THE TEACHERS.
9:16:12AM SONYA GONZALEZ.
9:16:14AM >> MALIKA REYNOLDS.
9:16:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE
9:16:18AM GROUP?
9:16:18AM >> WELL, THESE STUDENTS ARE AMAZING.
9:16:20AM THEY ALL UTILIZE THE CITY TRANSPORTATION TO GET TO AND FROM
9:16:24AM THE HOSPITAL.
9:16:25AM THAT'S WHERE THEY WORK AT.
9:16:27AM WE LOVE HART.
9:16:29AM WE LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT THE HART BUS LINE.
9:16:31AM THEY REALLY, REALLY HELP US OUT FOR OUR STUDENTS.
9:16:34AM THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.
9:16:37AM WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
9:16:39AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU ALL FOR SHOWING UP AT CITY

9:16:41AM COUNCIL THIS MORNING.
9:16:42AM WE APPRECIATE IT.
9:16:46AM >>LUIS VIERA: I WANTED TO THANK OUR HART BOARD MEMBER GARY
9:16:49AM FOR STARTING THAT CLASS.
9:16:50AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:16:51AM I WON'T BREAK SUNSHINE BY ENGAGING WITH YOU ON THAT CLAP.
9:16:56AM MAY I INTRODUCE MR. CLEMENS?
9:16:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM 1.
9:17:01AM COUNCILMAN VIERA'S ITEM.
9:17:02AM TAKE IT AWAY, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:17:04AM >>LUIS VIERA: I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE MR. CLAYTON CLEMENS,
9:17:08AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF PROJECT FOCUS, A NONPROFIT
9:17:11AM ORGANIZATION DEDICATED TO SUPPORTING YOUNG PEOPLE WITH
9:17:14AM DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES.
9:17:15AM CLAYTON OVERSEES STRATEGIC PROGRAM DEVELOPMENT PARTNERSHIP,
9:17:18AM CULTIVATION, MEDIA RELATION AND OTHER EFFORTS GEARED TOWARD
9:17:21AM EXPANDING THE ORGANIZATION'S IMPACT.
9:17:24AM LONG-TERM VISION INCLUDES DEVELOPING A STATE-OF-THE-ART
9:17:26AM LIVING COMMUNITY WHERE PERSONS WITH DEVELOPMENTAL
9:17:29AM DISABILITIES CAN LEARN, THRIVE, LIVE INDEPENDENTLY.
9:17:31AM HE LEVERAGES BACKGROUND IN POLITICS, GOVERNMENT RELATIONS
9:17:34AM AND STRATEGIC COMMUNICATIONS TO DRIVE PROJECT FOCUS' GROWTH.
9:17:41AM HE HOLDS A LOT OF OTHER DIFFERENT -- WEARS DIFFERENT HATS.
9:17:45AM PROUD UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA GRADUATE AND ALSO A CROSS-FIT
9:17:49AM COACH AND VOLUNTEERS WITH MANY DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS.

9:17:52AM THEY LIVE IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS.
9:17:54AM CLAYTON, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD.
9:17:57AM I INVITED HIM OVER BECAUSE PROJECT FOCUS IS STARTING TO WORK
9:18:00AM ON GETTING EXPOSURE FOR THE LARGE HOUSING INITIATIVE THEY
9:18:03AM ARE TRYING TO DO FOR PEOPLE WITH INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES.
9:18:06AM WE WANTED TO GIVE YOU FIVE MINUTES OR SO TO TALK ABOUT IT TO
9:18:09AM THE COMMUNITY.
9:18:10AM GO AHEAD.
9:18:10AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN VIERA.
9:18:12AM THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR HAVING ME
9:18:15AM TODAY.
9:18:15AM I DO HAVE A PowerPoint THAT WILL HAVE SOME BRIEF PHOTOS
9:18:17AM THAT WILL PLAY DURING THIS PRESENTATION.
9:18:19AM I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO COMMEND COUNCILMAN VIERA FOR HIS
9:18:26AM EFFORTS IN CONTINUING TO SUPPORT YOUNG ADULTS WITH
9:18:28AM DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES AND ALL OF THE COUNCIL'S EFFORTS
9:18:30AM IN ADDRESSING OUR COMMUNITY'S NEEDS.
9:18:32AM AS I SAID, MY NAME IS CLAYTON CLEMENS.
9:18:34AM I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF PROJECT FOCUS.
9:18:36AM BEFORE I GO ANY FURTHER, I'D LIKE TO --
9:18:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PAUSE ONE MOMENT WHILE I ADMONISH SOMEBODY
9:18:43AM FOR TALKING IN THE BACK OF THE CHAMBER.
9:18:47AM MR. MICHELINI, WOULD YOU PLEASE HAVE A SEAT AND STOP THE
9:18:52AM CONVERSATIONS INTERRUPTING OUR PROCEEDING.
9:18:55AM CONTINUE.

9:19:00AM >> NO PROBLEM.
9:19:02AM AS I SAID, I WANT TO PAUSE AND DISCUSS MY WHY.
9:19:06AM IF WE COULD HAVE THE SLIDE SHOW BACK UP REAL QUICK.
9:19:09AM MY WHY IS MY NEPHEW RHETT.
9:19:13AM HE IS TEN YEARS OLD.
9:19:16AM IN UTERO HE SUFFERED A STROKE.
9:19:18AM INFANTILE SEIZURES A YEAR AND HALF HIS BRAIN DISCONNECTED.
9:19:23AM HE IS THE REASON WHY I AM HERE TODAY TO ADVOCATE FOR PROJECT
9:19:25AM FOCUS.
9:19:26AM I INVITE EACH OF YOU TODAY TO REFLECT ON YOUR WHY, WHY YOU
9:19:29AM RAN FOR OFFICE, WHAT GETS YOU UP IN THE MORNING, WHAT'S YOUR
9:19:33AM PURPOSE AND WHAT'S THE LEGACY THAT YOU WANT TO LEAVE.
9:19:36AM PROJECT FOCUS IS A NONPROFIT DEDICATED TO SUPPORTING YOUNG
9:19:39AM ADULTS THROUGH EDUCATION, WORKFORCE AND LIFE SKILL
9:19:42AM DEVELOPMENT.
9:19:42AM WE SUPPORT AN -- WE ARE THE UMBRELLA NONPROFIT SUPPORTING
9:19:46AM OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.
9:19:47AM UNDER THAT UMBRELLA, WE HAVE FOCUS ACADEMY, A PUBLIC CHARTER
9:19:50AM SCHOOL FOR MIDDLE, HIGH SCHOOL, AND TRANSITION STUDENTS.
9:19:53AM IT WAS FOUNDED AS A PLACE OF JOY BY SOME PARENTS AND
9:19:57AM ADVOCATES HERE TODAY BEHIND ME.
9:19:58AM WE HAVE THE FOCUS CAFE.
9:20:00AM IT IS LOCATED IN THE TEMPLE TERRACE REC CENTER AND SERVES AS
9:20:04AM JOB TRAINING SITE FOR STUDENTS YEAR ROUND.
9:20:06AM FOCUS FORWARD IS AN ADULT DAY TRAINING PROGRAM FOR 22 TO 30

9:20:10AM YEAR OLDS AND UP, CONNECTING WITH THE COMMUNITY,
9:20:14AM VOLUNTEERING.
9:20:15AM WE HAVE A WORKFORCE READINESS TRAINING PROGRAM.
9:20:17AM WE JUST LAUNCHED THROUGH THE STATE'S VR PROGRAM ALLOWING US
9:20:21AM TO ADAPT THE MATERIAL TO GEAR IT TOWARDS THE POPULATION WE
9:20:24AM SERVE.
9:20:24AM AND WE JUST LAUNCHED OUR FOCUS DAY SCHOOL, ALLOWING US TO
9:20:28AM SERVE GRADES 3 THROUGH 6.
9:20:30AM EXPANDING OUR SERVICES TO SUPPORT YOUNGER STUDENTS, WHICH IS
9:20:33AM CRUCIAL.
9:20:34AM YOU'LL SEE SOME PHOTOS NOW FROM OUR PROGRAMS AS I CONTINUE
9:20:39AM ON.
9:20:39AM THANKS TO OUR FOUNDERS, LORETTA GALLO-LOPEZ AND JOSEPHINE
9:20:42AM ISENBERGH BEHIND ME, WE UTILIZED DRAMA THERAPY, THE ARTS,
9:20:46AM MENTAL WELLNESS A DIFFERENT APPROACH FROM OTHER PROGRAMS.
9:20:50AM IT IS THE FOUNDATION OF ALL OF THE PROGRAMS.
9:20:52AM THESE TOOLS CREATE GROWTH, FOSTER FRIENDSHIPS.
9:20:55AM THEY HELP INDIVIDUALS CONNECT WITH EACH OTHER, BELONG, AND
9:20:58AM THEY CONTRIBUTE MEANINGFULLY TO OUR COMMUNITY.
9:21:00AM THIS PROGRAM TO THIS SCALE IS NOT BEING DONE IN ANY SETTING
9:21:04AM THAT WE KNOW OF ANYWHERE ELSE.
9:21:06AM TODAY WE SERVE OVER 160 STUDENTS AND YOUNG ADULTS EVERY DAY
9:21:11AM IN OUR CURRENT PROGRAMS AND OUR WAITING LISTS ARE GROWING.
9:21:14AM IN THE COMMUNITY, AS YOU'LL SEE, WE DEVELOPED DOZENS OF
9:21:19AM COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES, NONPROFITS AND

9:21:22AM GOVERNMENT ENTITIES.
9:21:24AM AND THAT HELPS US BUILD OUR JOB TRAINING PROGRAMS AND OUR
9:21:27AM ABILITY TO HAVE OUR POPULATION CONNECT WITH THAT GREATER
9:21:30AM COMMUNITY.
9:21:31AM WE COLLABORATE WITH USF, THE UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA TO EDUCATE
9:21:35AM THAT NEXT GENERATION OF LEADERS, AND WE HOST SEMINARS TO
9:21:39AM SUPPORT OUR PARENTS AND OUR FAMILIES AS THEY GUIDE THE VERY
9:21:42AM COMPLICATED AND COMPLEX GOVERNMENT SYSTEMS THAT THEY HAVE TO
9:21:46AM AND WILL RELY ON FOR MANY OF THEM THE REMAINDER OF THEIR
9:21:50AM LIVES.
9:21:50AM SOME OF THE GREATEST CONCERNS WE HEAR FROM OUR FAMILIES ARE
9:21:55AM VERY SIMILAR.
9:21:57AM WORKFORCE, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN I'M NOT THERE AND
9:22:00AM WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO LIVE.
9:22:01AM THAT'S WHAT MAKES PROJECT FOCUS VISION FOR THE FUTURE EVEN
9:22:05AM MORE IMPORTANT.
9:22:06AM IT'S WHY I JOINED THE CALL.
9:22:08AM IT'S TO BUILD A COMMUNITY WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, A PLACE THAT
9:22:12AM I HOPE MY NEPHEW RHETT COULD CALL HOME ONE DAY.
9:22:16AM HERE ARE MORE AWESOME PARTNERSHIPS OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.
9:22:20AM BUT WHAT IS NEXT FOR PROJECT FOCUS, AND YOU HAVE A FOLDER IN
9:22:23AM FRONT OF YOU THAT HAS THE RENDERINGS AS WELL.
9:22:26AM I DON'T WANT YOU TO GET TOO HUNG UP ON THE BUILDINGS ITSELF
9:22:29AM BUT THE VISION FOR THE COMMUNITY.
9:22:31AM IN THAT COMMUNITY IN THE VISION, IT INCLUDES HOUSING WITH

9:22:34AM ACCESS TO AMENITIES AND SERVICES AND THE LARGER COMMUNITY,
9:22:37AM PUBLIC BUS STOPS, GREENSPACE, WHAT YOU WOULD ENVISION FOR
9:22:41AM YOUR FAMILY MEMBERS.
9:22:42AM A WORKFORCE TRAINING CENTER THAT HAS GROUND FLOOR ACTIVATION
9:22:46AM OPPORTUNITIES WITH RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL PARTNERS, LIKE
9:22:48AM FEEDING TAMPA BAY AND OTHERS WHERE WE CAN SET UP JOB
9:22:51AM TRAINING SITES THAT SUPPORT OUR STUDENTS THROUGHOUT THEIR
9:22:55AM ACADEMIC CAREERS, BUT THEN ALSO MEET THE COMMUNITY'S NEEDS,
9:22:58AM WHETHER IT'S SOLVING A FOOD DESERT OR PROVIDING ADDITIONAL
9:23:01AM VOCATIONAL REHABILITATION TRAINING.
9:23:03AM THE FINAL PIECE IS A NEW PLACE FOR OUR FOCUS ACADEMY.
9:23:10AM BECAUSE OF THE IMPORTANCE AND FOCUS ON THE DRAMA THERAPY, WE
9:23:14AM ALSO INCLUDE A COMMUNITY THEATER THAT WE HOPE TO BE
9:23:16AM ACTIVATED WITH FELLOW NONPROFIT AND FOR-PROFIT PARTNERS.
9:23:20AM IN CLOSING, PROJECT FOCUS, MY TEAM AND I, WE'RE WORKING HAND
9:23:25AM IN HAND WITH LOCAL, STATE AND FEDERAL PARTNERS TO BRING A
9:23:29AM VISION, SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITY MODEL TO LIFE HERE IN TAMPA.
9:23:32AM AND I UNDERSTAND AND MY TEAM UNDERSTANDS THIS IS NO EASY
9:23:36AM TASK.
9:23:37AM IT'S NOT AN EASY LIFT, BUT WE ARE HERE TO GET IT DONE.
9:23:41AM AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT TO BUILD A COMMUNITY, IT IS GOING TO
9:23:44AM TAKE THE COMMUNITY BEHIND US.
9:23:46AM IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO OUR CAMPUS, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO
9:23:48AM COME CHECK IT OUT BECAUSE IT'S PROBABLY -- AS MY FOUNDER
9:23:52AM SAYS, IT GIVES DISNEY A RUN FOR ITS MONEY.

9:23:56AM WITH THAT, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND ENTERTAIN ANY
9:23:59AM QUESTIONS.
9:24:00AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
9:24:02AM THANK YOU, CLAYTON FOR YOUR WORDS, PRESENTATION AND YOUR
9:24:04AM TEAM HERE.
9:24:05AM A LOT OF GOOD PEOPLE WHO I KNOW WELL AND EVERYTHING.
9:24:08AM I WANTED TO BRING YOU HERE BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
9:24:12AM IS SOMETHING TOP OF MIND OF PARENTS RAISING PEOPLE WITH
9:24:15AM SPECIAL NEEDS AND INTELLECTUAL DISABILITIES, WHICH IS WHERE
9:24:17AM ARE THEY GOING TO LIVE?
9:24:19AM I KNOW THAT WITH EXPERIENCE WITH MY BROTHER JUAN.
9:24:23AM FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH OF BRANDON FOR SPECIAL NEEDS MINISTRY,
9:24:27AM THEY WENT FOR A FEW YEARS, AND THEN WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE
9:24:32AM KIDS WHEN THEY GET OLDER?
9:24:34AM MY DAD TOOK TWO YEARS OFF OF WORK AS A BUILDER AND HELPED
9:24:39AM BUILD THE GROUP HOMES, WHERE MY BROTHER JUAN LIVES NOW.
9:24:43AM THAT'S REALLY HARD TO DO.
9:24:45AM WHAT YOU ALL ARE DOING IS GREAT.
9:24:46AM I KNOW THIS IS A LONG-TERM VISION.
9:24:48AM SOMETHING THAT ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN TOMORROW OR NEXT YEAR.
9:24:52AM BUT WITH THE HELP OF THE PRIVATE SECTOR, GOOD PEOPLE THAT
9:24:55AM CARE AND CORE GOVERNMENT, THIS IS SOMETHING I HAVE FAITH
9:25:03AM THAT CAN HAPPEN FOR PEOPLE.
9:25:04AM WE JUST STARTED SOMETHING I'VE WANTED TO DO FOR A LONG TIME,
9:25:10AM SPECIAL NEEDS PARENT SUPPORT GROUP.

9:25:12AM WE HAD OUR FIRST LIVE MEETING ON SATURDAY.
9:25:14AM WE WANT TO HAVE YOU SPEAK AT ONE OF THEM AT CUP IN SOUTH
9:25:18AM TAMPA.
9:25:18AM WE HAVE LIKE 65 PEOPLE.
9:25:20AM THE TOP THING ON THEIR MIND WAS HOUSING FOR THEIR CHILDREN,
9:25:27AM JOBS FOR THEIR KIDS AS WELL.
9:25:28AM AND DIFFERENT ISSUES LIKE THAT.
9:25:32AM GROUP HOMES AND THINGS THAT THEY CAN TRUST.
9:25:34AM WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS TOP OF MIND FOR THESE FOLKS.
9:25:37AM SO I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THIS.
9:25:40AM IT MAY NOT BE THERE FOR THEIR LOVED ONES TOMORROW OR A YEAR
9:25:44AM FROM NOW, BUT THIS WILL GIVE PEOPLE ENCOURAGEMENT THAT GOOD
9:25:47AM PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELF ARE WORKING HARD AND TRYING.
9:25:49AM I JUST LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORTING IN EVERY WAY I CAN AND
9:25:54AM JUST BEING SUPPORT TO YOU.
9:25:55AM THANK YOU.
9:25:55AM >> THANK YOU.
9:25:56AM I WOULD ADD THAT WE ARE EXCITED TO HOPEFULLY WORK WITH ALL
9:25:58AM OF OUR LOCAL PARTNERS.
9:26:00AM WE JUST GOT BACK FROM THE FLORIDA HOUSING COALITION
9:26:02AM CONFERENCE.
9:26:03AM THERE ARE A LOT OF UNIQUE OPPORTUNITIES FOR CITIES TO BE
9:26:06AM PARTNERING WITH LOCAL NONPROFITS AND DEVELOPMENT TEAMS,
9:26:10AM WHETHER BRINGING INFILL PROJECTS TO LIFE, LARGER PROJECTS
9:26:15AM LIKE THIS.

9:26:16AM CREATIVE WAYS TO USE THE LAND SO WE'RE NOT CONTINUING TO
9:26:18AM BUILD TOO FAR OUT.
9:26:20AM WE'D LOVE THE COMMUNITY TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE SAME AMENITIES
9:26:23AM THAT WE'RE ABLE TO IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:26:24AM IF WE CAN MOVE THAT NEEDLE IN THE DIRECTION AND PROVIDE A
9:26:27AM CHOICE FOR FAMILIES THAT DOESN'T CURRENTLY EXIST, I THINK IT
9:26:30AM COULD BE -- REALLY PUT TAMPA ON THE MAP FOR BEING KNOWN FOR
9:26:34AM BEING THAT SUPPORT SYSTEM.
9:26:35AM AND MANY, MANY FAMILIES ARE IMPACTED BY THIS CAUSE.
9:26:39AM MANY FORTUNE 500 COMPANIES HAVE EXECUTIVES THAT HAVE FAMILY
9:26:46AM MEMBERS IMPACTED BY AUTISM AND DISABILITIES.
9:26:48AM THEY ARE THINKING, WHERE AM I GOING TO BE LONG TERM SO MY
9:26:52AM FAMILY MEMBER HAS THE SUPPORT LONG TERM?
9:26:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE
9:26:57AM PRESENTATION.
9:26:57AM MY STEP DAUGHTER -- I SHOULD STOP SAYING STEP DAUGHTER AND
9:27:01AM SAY DAUGHTER.
9:27:02AM 13 YEARS OLD, SEVERELY AUTISTIC, IS ALWAYS GOING TO NEED
9:27:07AM CARE.
9:27:07AM WE HAVE THE CONVERSATION, MY WIFE AND I, WHAT HAPPENS IN THE
9:27:11AM FUTURE.
9:27:11AM PUT HER IN A GROUP HOME?
9:27:13AM I WANT HER TO STAY WITH US.
9:27:14AM BUT AS SHE GETS OLDER, IS SHE GOING TO HAVE OPPORTUNITIES
9:27:18AM LIKE THIS?

9:27:19AM WHERE IS SHE GOING TO GO?
9:27:21AM SHE WON'T BE HOME ALL THE TIME.
9:27:23AM I WANT HER TO HAVE A LIFE OF FULFILLMENT AND A HAPPY LIFE
9:27:27AM LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.
9:27:28AM SO SEEING PROJECTS LIKE THIS ESPECIALLY HERE IN TAMPA,
9:27:31AM BECAUSE MY LIFE LIVED IN PORT CHARLOTTE.
9:27:35AM IT WAS A STRUGGLE TO GET TO THE SERVICES SHE NEEDED.
9:27:38AM SHE HAD TO DRIVE TO SARASOTA.
9:27:39AM SARASOTA WAS THE CLOSEST PLACE TO HER.
9:27:41AM MOVING UP HERE, TAMPA IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
9:27:44AM AT THE SAME TIME, THIS IS PART OF A LONG-TERM PLAN OF
9:27:47AM CONTINUING TO EXPAND SERVICES FOR YOUNG PEOPLE AND FAMILIES
9:27:51AM AND MAKING SURE THAT TAMPA IS ACCESSIBLE TO EVERYBODY.
9:27:57AM SOMEBODY ASKED ME THIS MORNING AT A COFFEE SHOP, DO YOU PLAN
9:27:59AM TO BE HERE UNTIL YOU DIE?
9:28:01AM I SAID, YEAH.
9:28:02AM I EVEN HAVE MY CEMETERY PLOT PICKED OUT.
9:28:05AM I SAID, YES, I PLAN TO BE HERE.
9:28:09AM BORN, RAISED, EDUCATED, AND DEAD.
9:28:12AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT HERE?
9:28:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NOT IN THIS BUILDING.
9:28:16AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:28:16AM THIS IS WONDERFUL.
9:28:19AM I LOOK FORWARD TO SHARING THIS WITH MY WIFE WHEN I GET HOME
9:28:23AM AT 4 IN THE MORNING TOMORROW AFTER TONIGHT'S MEETING AND

9:28:26AM TELLING HER ABOUT THIS PRESENTATION AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING
9:28:29AM AND WHAT YOUR TEAM AND ALL THE PEOPLE HERE.
9:28:32AM THERE IS HOPE FOR THE FUTURE.
9:28:35AM THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR TOMORROW.
9:28:36AM LIKE COUNCILMAN VIERA SAID, IT MAY NOT HAPPEN TOMORROW BUT
9:28:39AM WE KNOW THAT DOWN THE ROAD, THINGS ARE HAPPENING AND
9:28:42AM CONTINUE EXPANDING AND SERVICING AND SERVING FAMILIES.
9:28:47AM WE JUST WANT PEOPLE TO LIVE A HAPPY LIFE LIKE EVERYBODY
9:28:51AM ELSE.
9:28:52AM THAT'S IT.
9:28:53AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:28:53AM THIS IS VERY IMPRESSIVE.
9:28:55AM WHATEVER I CAN DO TO SUPPORT YOU, THIS IS VERY EXCITING.
9:28:58AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:28:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON AND COUNCILWOMAN
9:29:00AM HURTAK.
9:29:02AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP IN LOTS OF
9:29:04AM WAYS IN THE COMMUNITY.
9:29:06AM IF YOU HAVEN'T, PLEASE TALK TO MY LEGISLATIVE AIDE, DAWSEY.
9:29:10AM SHE IS CONNECTED TO THE MOMS GROUP IN SOUTH TAMPA THAT HAVE
9:29:15AM KIDS THAT MEET THIS CRITERIA.
9:29:16AM SHE'S VERY CONNECTED TO ALL OF THEM.
9:29:21AM JUST LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA'S DAD VOLUNTEERING TIME,
9:29:24AM THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT CAN VOLUNTEER TIME AND MONEY.
9:29:29AM YOU CAN GET MONEY FROM BIG ORGANIZATIONS BUT THERE'S SO MUCH

9:29:32AM GRASSROOTS OF FAMILIES THAT ACTUALLY HAVE KIDS WITH SPECIAL
9:29:35AM NEEDS AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE RALLY THE COMMUNITY
9:29:39AM AROUND IT.
9:29:40AM DID YOU SAY THE PRICE OF THIS -- I KNOW IT WILL CHANGE
9:29:42AM BECAUSE IT IS A VISION, BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THE
9:29:45AM PRICE IS?
9:29:46AM IS THERE A WEBSITE PEOPLE CAN SUPPORT IT?
9:29:48AM >> WEBSITE IS PROJECT FOCUS FOUNDATION.ORG.
9:29:51AM THE COST ON IT IS ESTIMATED BETWEEN 60 AND $70 MILLION FOR
9:29:55AM THE TOTAL COMMUNITY.
9:29:56AM THAT IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE AND IS BASED OFF OF THE RENDERING.
9:30:02AM THE HOUSING COMPONENT COULD CHANGE, THE FLOORS COULD CHANGE.
9:30:05AM DENSITY COULD CHANGE.
9:30:07AM REALLY, THE GOAL IS TO CREATE THAT ALL-ENCOMPASSING
9:30:10AM COMMUNITY MODEL WHERE YOU HAVE HOUSING WITHIN WALKABLE
9:30:13AM SERVICES, WITHIN WALKABLE RETAIL, WITHIN OPPORTUNITY AND
9:30:18AM PURPOSE.
9:30:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
9:30:22AM I ECHO WHAT OTHERS HAVE SAID.
9:30:24AM I THINK THIS IS PHENOMENAL.
9:30:25AM FOR ME IN PARTICULAR I REALLY LOVE THE FOCUS HAVING THE
9:30:28AM EDUCATION THERE AS A FORMER TEACHER MYSELF WHO REALLY TENDED
9:30:31AM TO WORK WITH STUDENTS WITH SPECIAL NEEDS.
9:30:40AM QUITE A FEW OF THE STUDENTS I WORKED WITH WERE AUTISTIC, BUT
9:30:44AM KNOWING THAT FOLKS HAVE SOMEWHERE TO GO BUT IT'S ON A CAMPUS

9:30:47AM THAT PROTECTS STUDENTS.
9:30:51AM THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO FAR FOR THE SERVICES.
9:30:53AM WE'RE SEEING THAT IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS.
9:30:56AM THIS IS KIND OF JUST WHAT WE NEED.
9:30:58AM MY QUESTION IS, DO YOU HAVE LAND FOR THIS?
9:31:01AM >> WE DON'T HAVE LAND.
9:31:02AM THE RENDERING IS BASED OFF OF A SURFACE LOT THAT I PASS
9:31:06AM EVERY DAY ON THE WAY TO THE CURRENT CAMPUS.
9:31:08AM WE HAVE REACHED OUT VIGOROUSLY AND CONTINUE TO PUSH.
9:31:11AM IT IS IN THE SULPHUR SPRINGS AREA.
9:31:15AM WE ENVISION THAT THIS COMMUNITY WOULD COMPLEMENT A
9:31:18AM NEIGHBORHOOD, BRINGING JOBS, BRINGING POTENTIALLY SOLVING A
9:31:21AM FOOD DESERT CRISIS.
9:31:23AM MEETING THE COMMUNITY WHERE THEY NEED IT.
9:31:25AM I'M HOPEFUL THAT WHEREVER WE DO END UP THERE IS NO
9:31:27AM DISPLACEMENT FOR ANY LACK OF A BETTER WORD.
9:31:30AM THAT SURFACE LOT IS SOUTH OF THE DOG TRACK, BEHIND TAMPA
9:31:33AM HEALTH CENTERS.
9:31:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHERE IS YOUR CURRENT LOCATION?
9:31:37AM >> CURRENTLY LOCATED IN TEMPLE TERRACE.
9:31:40AM HOWEVER, WE SERVICE THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
9:31:44AM MAJORITY OF STUDENTS ARE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, CITY OF TAMPA.
9:31:46AM WE DO HAVE A FEW FAMILIES THAT TRAVEL FROM OUTSIDE OF THE
9:31:50AM COUNTY BECAUSE THAT IS HOW FAR THEY ARE WILLING TO GO FOR
9:31:53AM THEIR CHILDREN.

9:31:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU.
9:31:56AM I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS VISION TO US.
9:31:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
9:32:00AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
9:32:02AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR GIVING SOMEONE, ALL OF THEM A HAND
9:32:05AM UP, INSTEAD OF A HAND DOWN, PUSH DOWN.
9:32:08AM THAT SHOWS THE CHARACTER OF YOURSELF AND THE TEAM THAT WANTS
9:32:10AM TO HELP EVERYONE THAT HAS THIS UNFORTUNATE THING.
9:32:14AM ALONG WITH THAT, MAYBE SOME DEVELOPERS ARE LISTENING TO THE
9:32:17AM DEBATE THIS MORNING, CONVERSATION, I SHOULD SAY.
9:32:20AM MAYBE THEY COULD COME IN AND DO THEIR PART AND MAYBE HELP
9:32:24AM BUILD SOMETHING FOR A COST SO EVERYBODY CAN HAVE AN UPSWING
9:32:27AM IN LIFE INSTEAD OF A PUSH-DOWN.
9:32:30AM THANK YOU AND YOUR ORGANIZATION.
9:32:32AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.
9:32:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. CLEMENS, I HAVE A HARD TIME SAYING
9:32:36AM THAT INSTEAD OF CLAYTON BECAUSE I'VE KNOWN YOU SO LONG AS A
9:32:39AM FRIEND.
9:32:40AM I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF BEING INVITED UP NOT TOO LONG AGO TO
9:32:44AM THE CAMPUS AND SEEING THE SERVICES AND TALKING WITH THE
9:32:48AM STAFF.
9:32:49AM I ENCOURAGE MY FELLOW COUNCILPERSONS, IF YOU HAVEN'T TAKEN
9:32:52AM UP THAT OPPORTUNITY, IT'S WORTHY OF GOING UP THERE.
9:32:55AM IT'S INTERESTING, WATCHING THIS, SO INSPIRING IN WHAT YOU'RE
9:32:59AM ATTEMPTING TO DO.

9:33:00AM SOME WAYS IT MAKES ME SO ANGRY THAT IN 2025, IN A JUST AND
9:33:04AM RELATIVELY WEALTHY COUNTRY, THAT WE'RE STILL NOT PROVIDING
9:33:09AM THE SERVICES FOR ALL CITIZENS ACROSS THE SOCIOECONOMIC AND
9:33:15AM WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE CHALLENGED IN DISABILITIES, THAT WE
9:33:19AM REALLY SHOULD BE STEPPING UP AND PROVIDING THESE TYPES OF
9:33:22AM PROGRAMS FOR FOLKS.
9:33:24AM I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A FAMILY OUT THERE NOT TOUCHED IN
9:33:26AM SOME WAY BY SOMEONE WHO HAS SOME TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT ISSUE
9:33:30AM OR DISABILITY THAT CAN BE ASSISTED IN THESE TYPES OF
9:33:33AM PROGRAMS.
9:33:34AM THESE TYPES OF THINGS, I REALLY APPLAUD YOU.
9:33:37AM I WOULD NEVER THOUGHT WHEN WE FIRST MET THIS WOULD BE
9:33:40AM SOMETHING.
9:33:42AM REALLY BEEN SUCH A GREAT ADVOCATE FOR.
9:33:44AM YOU'VE TAKEN YOUR AMAZING TALENT AND SEIZED SUCH AN
9:33:48AM IMPORTANT PROGRAM TO PURSUE AND HOPEFULLY YOU'LL SEE THIS
9:33:52AM THROUGH AND WE WILL HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS VERY SIMILAR TO
9:33:55AM YOUR INITIAL VISION TO SERVICE ALL THE CITIZENS OF
9:33:59AM HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
9:34:00AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:34:00AM >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
9:34:01AM THANK YOU, COUNCILMEN.
9:34:03AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: IF I MAY, POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE.
9:34:07AM I KNOW IT WAS MENTIONED AT THE END OF THE LAST MEETING, AND
9:34:10AM NOT EVERYBODY IS WATCHING AT THE END OF THE MEETING.

9:34:13AM CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY OF ANDY HUGHES.
9:34:15AM YOU HAD MENTIONED IT.
9:34:17AM WE HAD JUST BEEN NOTIFIED.
9:34:20AM AS A HISTORIAN, AS A MEMBER OF THIS COMMUNITY, I WANT TO
9:34:24AM OFFER MY CONDOLENCES TO THE FAMILY.
9:34:26AM IT'S ALL OVER SOCIAL MEDIA.
9:34:28AM HE'S TOUCHED SO MANY INSTITUTIONS, FROM USF TO THE TAMPA
9:34:31AM THEATRE TO THE COLUMBIA TO SOMEBODY THAT EMBODIED AND LOVED
9:34:36AM TAMPA HISTORY.
9:34:37AM I WANT TO LET THE FAMILY KNOW WE ARE THINKING OF THEM.
9:34:40AM THAT'S IT.
9:34:41AM THANK YOU.
9:34:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IN THE E-MAIL THIS MORNING, I SENT WHAT I
9:34:49AM PROPOSED I'LL DO FOR NEW BUSINESS TODAY TO ADDRESS WHAT'S
9:34:53AM HAPPENING RIGHT NOW WITH THE F.D.O.T. MEMO.
9:34:55AM IF YOU ALL WOULD TAKE A MOMENT SOMETIME TODAY TO LOOK
9:34:58AM THROUGH THAT SO WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSION DURING NEW BUSINESS.
9:35:01AM BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT YET.
9:35:05AM THANK YOU GUYS FOR COMING.
9:35:17AM WE'LL MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:35:21AM MR. SHELBY.
9:35:28AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: MARTIN SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY, HERE
9:35:31AM TO TALK ABOUT THE RULES OF DECORUM FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT
9:35:35AM FOR TODAY'S MEETING.
9:35:36AM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALLOWED A REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY

9:35:40AM AT THE BEGINNING OF TODAY'S MEETING TO ADDRESS ANY ITEM ON
9:35:42AM THE AGENDA BEFORE THE CITY TAKES OFFICIAL ACTION ON THE
9:35:45AM ITEM.
9:35:45AM A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES TO ALL SPEAKERS, PROVIDING
9:35:50AM PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:35:50AM IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE FILL OUT
9:35:54AM A SPEAKER CARD AND PLACE IT IN THE BOX OUTSIDE THE
9:35:57AM COMMISSION -- THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
9:36:00AM ONE CARD PER SPEAKER.
9:36:02AM EACH PERSON SUBMITTING A CARD WOULD BE RECOGNIZED BY NAME BY
9:36:05AM THE CHAIR TO APPROACH AND SPEAK.
9:36:07AM AS I SAID, A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES.
9:36:10AM NAMES THAT CANNOT BE READ WILL NOT BE CALLED.
9:36:13AM PLEASE PRINT LEGIBLY.
9:36:14AM IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM SET ON THE AGENDA AS A
9:36:18AM PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE DON'T FILL OUT A CARD.
9:36:21AM INSTEAD SIGN IN ON THE SIGN-IN SHEET AT THE PODIUM OUTSIDE.
9:36:25AM SPEAKERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALSO REMINDED THAT
9:36:28AM THEY ARE TO REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING
9:36:31AM MAKING VULGAR OR THREATENING REMARKS OR MAKING OR CAUSING
9:36:34AM DISRUPTIVE NOISES OR SOUNDS OR DISPLAYING SIGNS OR GRAPHICS.
9:36:38AM THE CHAIR WILL RULE OUT OF ORDER ANY PERSON WHO SPEAKS
9:36:40AM WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED OR ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL
9:36:43AM FROM OUTSIDE THE SPEAKER AREA AT THE PODIUM.
9:36:46AM PERSONS FAILING TO COMPLY WITH THE CITY COUNCIL RULES MAY

9:36:49AM ALSO BE RULED OUT OF ORDER AND AT THE DISCRETION OF THE
9:36:54AM CHAIR MAY BE REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBERS FOR THE REMAINDER OF
9:36:57AM THE DAY'S MEETING.
9:36:58AM NOW, IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON ANYTHING THAT IS ON THE
9:37:04AM CONSENT DOCKET, THE TIME TO SPEAK NOW IS AT THE GENERAL
9:37:08AM PUBLIC COMMENT, SAME WITH STAFF REPORTS.
9:37:10AM FINALLY, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS SHOULD REFRAIN FROM ENGAGING A
9:37:14AM SPEAKER UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT AND THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE AWARE
9:37:16AM THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT TAKE QUESTIONS OR HAVE A
9:37:20AM DIALOGUE DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:37:22AM THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS YOUR POSITION.
9:37:25AM THANK YOU.
9:37:25AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MR. SHELBY.
9:37:27AM WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC SPEAKER REGISTERED ONLINE.
9:37:29AM MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
9:37:31AM MICHAEL, ARE YOU ON?
9:37:33AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:37:33AM MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
9:37:36AM TODAY I COME REPRESENTING THE CENTER FOR NONPROFIT COMMUNITY
9:37:40AM DEVELOPMENT.
9:37:41AM AN ENTITY THAT REPRESENT NONPROFITS THROUGHOUT THE NATION.
9:37:45AM OVER THE LAST FIVE MONTHS, I'VE BEEN APPROACHED BUT EMERGING
9:37:50AM YOUNG LEADERS IN SULPHUR SPRINGS AND EAST TAMPA.
9:37:54AM THEY WANT A POWERFUL, CONSISTENT MESSAGE.
9:37:58AM DEEP DESIRE TO BECOME CHANGE AGENTS IN THE COMMUNITY.

9:38:02AM THESE YOUNG VOICES -- ASKING PERMISSION, THEY ARE READY TO
9:38:07AM LEAD.
9:38:08AM EAST TAMPA AND SULPHUR SPRINGS MAY BE AMONG THE POOREST
9:38:12AM COMMUNITIES IN TAMPA.
9:38:13AM THEY ARE HOME TO SOME OF THE BRIGHTEST, SMARTEST PEOPLE I'VE
9:38:17AM MET.
9:38:18AM THESE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE RICH IN POTENTIAL AND ESPECIALLY
9:38:23AM AMONG THE YOUNG POPULATION.
9:38:24AM THAT'S WHY WE'RE PROVIDING A TRANSFORMATIVE TRAINING TO THE
9:38:30AM YOUNG LEADERS.
9:38:31AM IT ISN'T AN OPTION.
9:38:33AM IT'S ESSENTIAL.
9:38:33AM UNLIKE THE NONPROFIT LEADERSHIP CENTER IN TAMPA BAY, WHICH
9:38:38AM USES A TOP-BOTTOM APPROACH, OUR APPROACH BUILDS CHANGE
9:38:44AM AGENTS FROM THE GROUNDS UP.
9:38:45AM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CULTIVATING POWER.
9:38:52AM A NEW GENERATION OF LEADERS, FROM THE BLACK, FOR THE BLACK.
9:38:58AM OVER THE NEXT 12 WEEKS, THEY WILL ENGAGE IN HANDS-ON
9:39:03AM TRAINING, DESIGNED REAL-WORLD CHANGE.
9:39:08AM THE CURRICULUM COVERS HOUSING, ORGANIZING, ECONOMIC
9:39:15AM DEVELOPMENT, ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE EMPOWERMENT AND
9:39:18AM STRATEGIC DEAL MAKING.
9:39:23AM THE GOAL ISN'T JUST TO JOIN THE SYSTEM.
9:39:26AM IT'S TO BUILD A NEW ONE LED BY THE COMMUNITY ITSELF.
9:39:29AM THE PROGRAM DOESN'T PREPARE LEADERS TO JOIN A NEW LED BY THE

9:39:33AM COMMUNITY ITSELF.
9:39:34AM THIS PROGRAM DOESN'T -- JOIN THE TABLE IT EQUIPS THEM TO
9:39:40AM BUILD A TABLE.
9:39:41AM IT ISN'T ABOUT CHANGE OF EXISTING SYSTEM.
9:39:44AM IT'S ABOUT BUILDING A NEW ONE WHERE THE COMMUNITY CREATES
9:39:48AM THE TABLE, CREATES THE AGENDA, AND LEADS THE TRANSFORMATION.
9:39:53AM THANK YOU.
9:39:54AM SULPHUR SPRINGS AND EAST TAMPA AND NEW LEADERS COMING UP,
9:39:58AM THANK YOU.
9:39:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MR. RANDOLPH.
9:40:00AM FIRST SPEAKER IS SURGRET DOSS FOLLOWED BY JASON MARLOW.
9:40:14AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:40:14AM I WASN'T EXPECTING TO BE FIRST, BUT I APPRECIATE THE HONOR.
9:40:18AM WE'LL JUST WING THIS FOR WHAT IT IS.
9:40:21AM IT'S INTERESTING THAT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO I WAS HERE AND
9:40:24AM WE TALKED -- SURGRET DOSS.
9:40:27AM YOU ALREADY SAID MY NAME.
9:40:28AM IDEA TO MAKE THE DEADLINE, MY APPENDIX FOR THE APPEAL.
9:40:32AM USE A UNIQUE WORD, AND PEOPLE ARE UP IN ARMS.
9:40:41AM EVEN ON THE INTERNET I GET TROLLED BY PEOPLE WHO WERE A
9:40:44AM LITTLE BIT TAKEN ABACK BY ME USING A PARTICULAR PHRASE,
9:40:48AM WHICH THE BARREL HAD ON IT.
9:40:52AM CRACKER BARREL AND PEOPLE LOSE THEIR MINDS.
9:40:55AM I WAS WONDERING IF I WAS RIGHT OR WRONG.
9:40:57AM THAT BEING SAID, I KNOW THESE THINGS OPEN UP WITH SOME SORT

9:41:01AM OF PRAYER OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
9:41:03AM WHAT BAFFLES ME, PARTICULARLY IN TAMPA ABOUT THAT, I'M NOT
9:41:06AM HERE TO JUDGE WHAT ANYBODY'S RELIGIOUS PREFERENCE MAY OR MAY
9:41:10AM NOT BE.
9:41:12AM I'M PRETTY CONVINCED THAT IF THE INDIVIDUAL SO MANY PEOPLE
9:41:18AM HERE CLAIM TO FOLLOW, YOU WOULD MISS AGAIN.
9:41:22AM WE KNOW WHAT HE LOOKS LIKE.
9:41:24AM I'M THINKING, YOU KNOW HOW ROGUE YOU HAVE TO BE TO STEAL
9:41:29AM JESUS, CHANGE HIS NAME, PUSH IT UPON PEOPLE AND SOME REASON
9:41:35AM NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE STAND UP TO THE OBVIOUS MISTRUTHS THAT
9:41:40AM HAVE BEEN TOLD FOR YEARS.
9:41:41AM IF I OFFEND PEOPLE, I PROBABLY MEAN TO.
9:41:47AM TAKE IT PERSONALLY IF IT FITS.
9:41:49AM I'M NOT JUST SPEAKING ABOUT THE RACIST WHITE PEOPLE.
9:41:53AM I'M TALKING ABOUT EVEN SOME OF YOU ALL WHO KNOW WHAT'S GOING
9:41:56AM ON AND SAY NOTHING.
9:41:58AM WHETHER YOU ARE A SAMBO --
9:42:03AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
9:42:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'M SORRY, I WOULD ASK YOU, IF YOU COULD
9:42:07AM JUST NOT USE THE INFLAMMATORY TYPE OF RACIAL.
9:42:09AM I DON'T THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA TO NORMALIZE THAT TYPE OF
9:42:15AM LANGUAGE.
9:42:16AM >> THAT'S INTERESTING IN THIS COUNTRY.
9:42:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IN THIS COUNCIL, THIS MEETING, I DON'T
9:42:19AM THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO NORMALIZE THAT.

9:42:20AM IT'S HURTFUL TO PEOPLE.
9:42:22AM I SEE OLDER PEOPLE THAT HAVE FOUGHT AGAINST THESE TYPES OF
9:42:26AM WORDS THAT HURT PEOPLE.
9:42:28AM I APPRECIATE YOUR POSITION ON THESE THINGS, BUT IF YOU COULD
9:42:31AM CHOOSE YOUR WORDS.
9:42:35AM >> MORE ARTICULATE IN THE FACE OF INARTICULATENESS THAT'S
9:42:40AM BEEN SHOWN BY THIS CITY.
9:42:43AM THE GUY YOU REHIRED -- GIVE ME MY MINUTE BACK -- THE GUY YOU
9:42:48AM REHIRED FALSELY ACCUSED OF ME OF PERJURY.
9:42:51AM YOU REHIRED HIM.
9:42:52AM THE SECOND ONE UP HERE THAT IS AN ATTORNEY.
9:42:58AM THIS IS NOT A HALLOWEEN COSTUME.
9:43:00AM IF YOU GOOGLE ME, YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE COME UP.
9:43:10AM THE SECOND THING IN THE PUBLIC RECORD ABOUT ME.
9:43:13AM PERSON WHO WASN'T WILLING TO FIGHT, I HAVE NO ISSUE IF YOU
9:43:16AM DID OR DIDN'T, WASN'T WILLING TO GIVE THIS COUNTRY A CHECK
9:43:20AM UP TO YOUR LIFE, I THINK IT'S KIND OF INSULTING TO TALK
9:43:23AM ABOUT FREE SPEECH.
9:43:25AM THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
9:43:29AM FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT.
9:43:30AM I THINK YOU MIGHT BE WRONG ABOUT THAT.
9:43:33AM I DON'T NEED TO MAKE THAT A LEGAL ISSUE RIGHT NOW.
9:43:36AM THE REALITY IS, THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT GO WRONG AND
9:43:40AM YOU ALL SAY NOTHING ABOUT IT.
9:43:42AM WE DO NEED MORE UNCLE TOMS, ANOTHER MISNOMER AND LESS OF THE

9:43:47AM OTHER PEOPLE.
9:43:48AM SHOUT TO THE UNIVERSITY OF THOMAS JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL,
9:43:50AM GREATEST INSTITUTION OF LEARNING IN THIS CITY.
9:43:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, SIR.
9:43:53AM AGAIN.
9:43:56AM I DON'T IMPEDE YOUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS.
9:43:59AM MR. MARLOW.
9:44:04AM >> JASON MARLOW.
9:44:05AM I DID NOT FEEL LIKE BEING HERE TODAY, BUT TALLAHASSEE IS
9:44:09AM FOUR HOURS AWAY.
9:44:10AM F.D.O.T., MY LEGISLATORS, AND THE GOVERNOR ARE NOT ALL
9:44:14AM ASSEMBLED FOR ME TO ADMONISH THEM SO I AM HERE INSTEAD.
9:44:18AM TAKE THE MOMENT TO MENTION THAT I AND STUFF IN MY FRIDGE ARE
9:44:22AM OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER WHEN TALLAHASSEE PRETENDED TO CARE
9:44:25AM ABOUT LOCAL AUTONOMY OR HOME RULE.
9:44:27AM SOMEHOW THE PARTY OF SMALL GOVERNMENT SOMEHOW BIG ENOUGH TO
9:44:29AM COME INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND PAINT OVER MURALS AND
9:44:32AM CROSSWALKS THAT MAKE IT SAFER FOR FAMILIES TO GO TO AND FROM
9:44:35AM SCHOOL.
9:44:36AM THE SCIENCE AND STATISTICS ARE CLEAR.
9:44:38AM CREATIVE CROSSWALKS REDUCE COLLISIONS.
9:44:41AM ONE OF THE CROSSWALKS THAT WAS OR WILL BE UNCEREMONIOUSLY
9:44:44AM PAINTED OVER HAS LIKELY ALREADY SAVED A LIFE OVER ITS
9:44:48AM HISTORY.
9:44:49AM PEDESTRIAN SAFETY IN A REGION THAT IS ONE OF THE NATION'S

9:44:52AM DEADLIEST PLACES TO TRAVERSE SHOULD BE OUR PRIORITY.
9:44:54AM THE CROSSWALK COLORS DON'T BITE.
9:44:56AM THEY MAKE OUR COMMUNITY BETTER.
9:44:57AM I WANT TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL FOR ITS EFFORTS TO IMPROVE
9:45:00AM THIS ISSUE, BUT I AM HERE THIS MORNING TO ENCOURAGE THIS
9:45:03AM ADMINISTRATION AND CITY COUNCIL TO SEEK ALL POSSIBLE LEGAL
9:45:06AM RECOURSE TO COMBAT TALLAHASSEE'S UNPROVOKED ACTS OF
9:45:10AM REGRESSION AND SEEK CREATIVE MEANS TO CONTINUE INVESTING IN
9:45:14AM MAKING TAMPA SAFER FOR EVERYONE TO GET AROUND.
9:45:17AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:45:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MR. MARLOW.
9:45:18AM MICHELLE -- I'LL MURDER YOUR LAST NAME.
9:45:22AM MASTROTOTARO.
9:45:25AM THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
9:45:26AM THE NEXT SPEAKER, BOBBY CREIGHTON.
9:45:30AM >> GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.
9:45:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD MORNING, MICHELLE.
9:45:34AM >> I HAVE A PAPER.
9:46:01AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:46:02AM MY NAME IS MICHELLE MASTROTOTARO.
9:46:05AM I AM HANDING OUT WHAT I FEEL WE NEED TO ADDRESS.
9:46:14AM I AM FOLLOWING UP ON AUGUST 11 NIGHT MEETING THAT MR.
9:46:19AM MIRANDA WAS VERY CONCERNED, AND HE WANTED TO PASS A MOTION.
9:46:24AM I'M JUST FOLLOWING UP WITH THAT.
9:46:31AM DO YOU WANT ME TO READ IT?

9:46:32AM I AM FOLLOWING UP ON OUR PREVIOUS DISCUSSION REGARDING THE
9:46:39AM WETLANDS AND PROTECTED MANGROVES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
9:46:42AM AT THE LAST MEETING, MR. MIRANDA RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT THE
9:46:46AM UPROOTING OF PROTECTED MANGROVES FOR THE PURPOSE OF
9:46:49AM OBTAINING INCENTIVES AND PROPOSED MOTIONS TO ADDRESS THE
9:46:54AM ISSUE.
9:46:55AM I WOULD LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THAT APPROXIMATELY 23 ACRES MIXED
9:47:01AM WITH WETLAND AND MANGROVES WERE REMOVED, WHICH CONSTITUTES A
9:47:07AM VIOLATION OF THE YELLOW LINE LAND RESTRICTIONS ESTABLISHED
9:47:11AM DUE TO THE AREA'S HISTORIC VALUE.
9:47:14AM AS YOU KNOW, PROPERTIES WITHIN THE DESIGNATED DISTRICT ARE
9:47:17AM SUBJECT TO STRICT GUIDELINES REGARDING BUILDING HEIGHT,
9:47:21AM DESIGN, MATERIALS, SIGNAGE, LANDSCAPING, AND ENVIRONMENTAL
9:47:25AM PROTECTION.
9:47:26AM THESE REGULATIONS ARE PLACED TO PRESERVE THE DISTRICT'S
9:47:31AM CHARACTER, MITIGATE FLOODING, PROTECT SURROUNDING
9:47:36AM RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES DESPITE THE SAFE DEVELOPMENT IN
9:47:42AM QUESTION PROCEEDED IN THE MANNER AND DISREGARDED MULTIPLE
9:47:46AM REQUIREMENTS.
9:47:46AM THE LAND WAS ORIGINALLY AN AE FLOOD ZONE.
9:47:51AM NOW IT'S AN X FLOOD ZONE IN RESTRICTED AREA WHEN EVERYBODY
9:47:57AM ELSE IS GRANDFATHERED IN AT A CERTAIN LEVEL, THIS WAS BUILT
9:48:01AM 15 FEET UP, BLOCKED ALL THE UNDERGROUND CHAMBERS THAT USED
9:48:06AM TO TAKE ON OUR WETLANDS AND THE MANGROVES TO FLUSH OUT BACK
9:48:11AM TO THE BAY, IT'S GONE NOW, AND THEY WERE ALLOWED TO.

9:48:14AM THE APPROVED DESIGN SHOWED GREENSPACE, IF YOU LOOK IN THE
9:48:21AM PICTURE, THE FIRST PICTURE.
9:48:23AM IT SHOWED A VERY PRESENTED FAIR APARTMENTS.
9:48:31AM IF YOU LOOK PAGE 3, IT SHOWS WHAT EXACTLY WAS DONE WITH ONE
9:48:37AM RETENTION POND IN THE BACK.
9:48:40AM THE FIRST ONE SHOWS MANY PONDS.
9:48:44AM THIS DEVELOPMENT NOT ONLY DISREGARDS ENVIRONMENTAL AND
9:48:47AM HISTORIC SAFEGUARDS, BUT ALSO THREATENS THE INTEGRITY OF
9:48:51AM NEIGHBORING HOMES.
9:48:53AM MANY OF WHICH, LIKE MINE, BUILT IN 1918 ARE PART OF A
9:48:58AM COMMUNITY HISTORIC FABRIC.
9:49:00AM I RESPECTFULLY URGE THE COUNCIL TO SUPPORT MR. MIRANDA'S --
9:49:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MICHELLE.
9:49:07AM TIME IS UP.
9:49:08AM SORRY.
9:49:09AM BOBBY CREIGHTON FOLLOWED BY TARAH BLUMA.
9:49:12AM BOBBY, FOLLOWED BY TARAH.
9:49:29AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:49:30AM BOBBY CREIGHTON.
9:49:33AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 66.
9:49:35AM HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO CLARIFY ONE OF THE ISSUES I HAD WITH
9:49:39AM THAT EARLIER THIS MORNING WITH MS. SCHARF REGARDING THE
9:49:43AM OUTSIDE COUNSEL.
9:49:44AM SO THAT'S BEEN CLEARED UP IN MY MIND.
9:49:47AM THERE WERE A COUPLE OF OTHER ITEMS, THOUGH, WITHIN THE

9:49:50AM UPDATED ORDINANCE THAT I THINK ARE A LITTLE UNUSUAL.
9:49:54AM ONE IS THAT THERE'S REFERENCE TO AN EXECUTIVE ORDER FOR HOW
9:49:59AM LIEN SETTLEMENTS SHOULD BE PROCESSED.
9:50:03AM I COULDN'T FIND ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY CODE THAT
9:50:05AM REFERENCES A SPECIFIC EXECUTIVE ORDER FOR HOW POLICY SHOULD
9:50:09AM BE ENACTED.
9:50:10AM SEEMED LITTLE UNUSUAL TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT INSERTED
9:50:13AM INTO THE CODE WHEN IT SHOULD BE IN MY MIND SPELLED OUT AS A
9:50:16AM POLICY SO IT CAN BE AMENDED BY THE POLICY MAKERS AND THE
9:50:19AM POLICY ADJUSTORS, WHICH IS THIS BODY.
9:50:21AM SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE IF THAT COMES UP FOR
9:50:25AM DISCUSSION TODAY, THAT THOSE POLICIES GET SPELLED OUT.
9:50:28AM THEY ARE INSERTED INTO THE CODE AND THAT EXECUTIVE ORDER
9:50:32AM THAT WILL HAVE NO REASON TO EXIST.
9:50:34AM THE OTHER ITEM WAS THE INCREASED FINES FOR KNOWING AND
9:50:41AM WILLFUL DEMOLITION OF HISTORIC STRUCTURES.
9:50:43AM 20% OF THE PROPERTY VALUE BEFORE THE STRUCTURE COMES DOWN.
9:50:46AM I THINK THAT SHOULD BE HIGHER ONCE A HISTORIC STRUCTURE IS
9:50:49AM DEMOLISHED, IT'S NOT COMING BACK.
9:50:51AM THAT IS THE HERITAGE OF THE CITY.
9:50:53AM WHAT MAKES TAMPA, TAMPA.
9:50:54AM AND NEED TO BE PRESERVING THOSE PLACES AND SET PROPORTIONATE
9:50:58AM PENALTIES FOR PEOPLE WHO WILLINGLY DESTROY THEM.
9:51:01AM THE REPEAT VIOLATOR DEFINITION, THEY ARE UPDATING THAT TO
9:51:06AM ALIGN WITH STATE STATUTE.

9:51:09AM EVERY SINGLE OTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENT THAT I'VE SEEN IN THE
9:51:12AM BIGGEST CITIES IN THE STATE AND IN THOSE COUNTIES WHERE
9:51:14AM THOSE CITIES ARE LOCATED USE THIS STATUTE.
9:51:17AM IT'S JUST THE COMMON PRACTICE IN CODE.
9:51:20AM FINALLY UPDATING THAT.
9:51:21AM THE ONLY REASON IT'S DIFFERENT IN TAMPA IS AN ACCIDENT OF
9:51:24AM HISTORY.
9:51:25AM I SUPPORT THAT.
9:51:26AM I THINK THAT ABOUT COVERS THE CODE ENFORCEMENT STUFF.
9:51:29AM I WON'T BE ABLE TO BE HERE THIS EVENING TO SPEAK ON THE
9:51:33AM COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TOPIC, I'LL GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS THAT
9:51:36AM NOW.
9:51:37AM I HEAR A LOT AT THE MEETINGS AT CITY COUNCIL DURING PUBLIC
9:51:43AM COMMENT ABOUT THE NEED FOR DENSITY IN EAST TAMPA.
9:51:46AM THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN WHO CAME LAST WEEK AND DESCRIBED HOW
9:51:50AM HE WAS TRYING TO CREATE A GROCERY STORE DEVELOPMENT.
9:51:52AM BUT BECAUSE THERE WAS A LACK OF THE CLIENTELE, WASN'T THE
9:51:56AM DENSITY TO SUPPORT IT, WERE NOT ABLE TO GET THE BUSINESSES
9:51:59AM AND USES THAT EAST TAMPA DESERVES INTO THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS.
9:52:03AM SO I WOULD CAUTION DON'T THROW THE BABY OUT WITH THE
9:52:06AM BATHWATER.
9:52:07AM THERE ARE PLACES IN THE CITY WHERE IT'S SENSIBLE NOT TO
9:52:10AM DEVELOP.
9:52:10AM PLACES PRONE TO FLOODING WHERE PEOPLE'S LIVES MIGHT BE AT
9:52:13AM RISK.

9:52:14AM BUT THERE ARE OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY THAT NEED THE DENSITY
9:52:16AM IN ORDER FOR THEM TO GROW AND THRIVE.
9:52:19AM WE HEAR THIS PHRASE SMART DEVELOPMENT.
9:52:21AM IT'S A CAREFUL TIGHTROPE TO WALK.
9:52:24AM IT IS A BALANCING ACT, I KNOW.
9:52:25AM BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION ON HOW TO WALK THAT
9:52:29AM CAREFULLY SO THAT EVERYWHERE CAN THRIVE.
9:52:32AM THANK YOU.
9:52:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, SIR.
9:52:33AM TARAH BLUMA, FOLLOWED BY PASTOR WILLIAMS.
9:52:36AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:52:37AM TARAH BLUMA.
9:52:38AM I'M GOING TO KEEP ON THAT CONVERSATION TOPIC THAT ONE SIZE
9:52:42AM FITS ALL SOLUTIONS RARELY WORK.
9:52:47AM LET'S THINK ABOUT THAT WHEN LOOKING AT THE COMPREHENSIVE
9:52:49AM PLAN.
9:52:49AM NUMBER 69.
9:52:51AM I AM TIRED OF REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTIONS.
9:52:56AM THEY KEEP BLOWING THROUGH THE MONEY, IRRESPONSIBLY.
9:53:00AM NOT NECESSARILY IN THE AMOUNTS THEY SAID THEY WOULD SPEND ON
9:53:03AM PARTICULAR ITEMS.
9:53:04AM LOOK AT HOW MANY TIMES IN THE PRESENTATION THEY SAID THAT
9:53:08AM THEY WERE GOING TO SPEND MONEY ON FIRE.
9:53:09AM SEE HOW MUCH MONEY THEY ACTUALLY SPENT ON FIRE.
9:53:13AM YET MONEY SPENT AND ALLOCATED.

9:53:16AM WITH THAT, I WOULD NOT APPROVE THAT IN A LARGE LIST FORMAT
9:53:21AM AGAIN.
9:53:22AM LET THEM ASK FOR A REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION PER ITEM THAT
9:53:26AM THEY WANT AND THEN LIMIT THEM TO THAT AMOUNT AND NOT LET
9:53:30AM THEM RAID THE PIGGY BANK FOR OTHER PROJECTS THEY MIGHT LIKE
9:53:33AM MORE.
9:53:33AM I AM 100% AGAINST THE ASHLEY PROJECT, WHETHER IT'S VIA CRA
9:53:42AM MONEY OR CITY MONEY, WE CAN'T AFFORD THAT RIGHT NOW.
9:53:45AM THAT IS A WANT, NOT A NEED.
9:53:47AM NUMBER 38, THE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR AWARD TO NAACP, THAT
9:53:58AM IS NOT A DONATION.
9:53:59AM IT IS AN AGREEMENT FOR SERVICES.
9:54:02AM AND THEY WERE REQUIRED TO DO A PERFORMANCE REPORT OF THE
9:54:06AM LAST HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLAR THAT THEY RECEIVED.
9:54:10AM I WAS NOT ABLE TO FIND THAT PERFORMANCE REPORT ANYWHERE.
9:54:14AM IF IT HASN'T BEEN PRESENTED, I THINK IT'S BEST PRACTICE WHEN
9:54:19AM YOU'RE MAKING AN AGREEMENT FOR SERVICES THAT YOU FOLLOW UP
9:54:22AM TO SEE IF THOSE SERVICES WERE PERFORMED.
9:54:24AM AND IF IT HAS BEEN PRESENTED, LET'S PUT THAT IN THE AGENDA
9:54:29AM AND MAKE THAT READILY AVAILABLE.
9:54:32AM ON NUMBER 41, I AM NOT AWARE -- WASN'T ABLE TO FIND OUT IF
9:54:38AM THAT MONEY FOR YBOR BLOCK BY BLOCK IS COMING OUT OF THE CRA,
9:54:44AM BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT SHOULD.
9:54:47AM AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE MORE TRANSPARENCY ON THE AGENDA TO SEE
9:54:51AM WHERE IS THAT MONEY COMING OUT OF.

9:54:56AM FINALLY, ON THE PARKS LIGHTING, I HAD TO DIG AND ASK LOTS OF
9:55:02AM QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT TO FIND OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON THERE.
9:55:07AM I THINK THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT THAT WITHIN 180 DAYS OF THE
9:55:10AM RESOLUTION THAT YOU APPROVED IN 2024, THAT THEY WOULD
9:55:15AM PROVIDE THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS FOR ALL EIGHT OF THE PARKS.
9:55:18AM TODAY, YOU'RE ONLY SEEING THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS FOR THREE
9:55:21AM OF THEM.
9:55:22AM LET'S FIND OUT WHAT THE OTHER FIVE WERE.
9:55:24AM LET'S GET THAT PRESENTED SO WE KNOW IF THEY ARE IN BUDGET OR
9:55:28AM WILL NOT BUDGET OUT OF THE WATER AS WELL.
9:55:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PASTOR WILLIAMS.
9:55:32AM GOOD MORNING.
9:55:33AM NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE ASHLEY MORROW.
9:55:46AM >> MY NAME IS PASTOR WILLIAMS, LOCATED AT 1112 EAST SCOTT
9:55:50AM STREET, USED TO BE.
9:55:52AM TOOK MY CHURCH AND GAVE IT TO SOME WHITE PEOPLE.
9:55:56AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK -- THAT YOU HAVE ON THE AGENDA, I'M HERE
9:56:04AM TO SPEAK ABOUT BELMONT HEIGHTS AND JACKSONVILLE -- JACKSON
9:56:09AM HEIGHTS.
9:56:09AM WHAT YOU'RE DOING HERE TO US, PEOPLE OF COLOR, TAKING OUR
9:56:18AM LAND AND PUTTING SWAMP HOLES IN THERE, WHICH IS NOT RIGHT.
9:56:23AM SO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO, I CAN'T WAIT -- SCOTT THOMAS GET
9:56:33AM THAT.
9:56:33AM HE'S GOING TO GET THERE, HE TOLD ME -- HOPING THAT WHEN HE
9:56:38AM GET THERE, HE DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR PEOPLE AND UNDERSTAND THAT

9:56:43AM WE NEED PEOPLE LIKE HIM AND THE YOUNG MAN THAT JUST GOT
9:56:49AM THROUGH SPEAKING.
9:56:50AM WE'RE GOING THROUGH A LOT OF PROBLEMS.
9:56:56AM YESTERDAY, SOMEBODY WENT AND KILLED SOME INNOCENT YOUNG
9:57:02AM PEOPLE IN SCHOOL.
9:57:03AM THAT'S RIDICULOUS.
9:57:05AM YOU GOT TIME TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHY DON'T YOU TRY TO
9:57:08AM HELP PEOPLE.
9:57:09AM AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO HELP ONE ANOTHER.
9:57:13AM THAT'S WHAT THE LORD TOLD US TO DO, HELP ONE ANOTHER.
9:57:17AM WE DON'T WANT TO HELP CERTAIN PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE OF
9:57:21AM COLOR.
9:57:22AM GOT TO UNDERSTAND, WE ARE ALL HERE BECAUSE GOD PUT US HERE.
9:57:30AM WE'LL CONTINUE TO GIVE GOD ALL THE GLORY.
9:57:33AM I DON'T WANT NO PAT ON THE BACK.
9:57:37AM I WANT YOU TO GIVE GOD ALL THE GLORY.
9:57:42AM TRY TO HELP ONE ANOTHER.
9:57:43AM DO THE RIGHT THING.
9:57:44AM DO THE RIGHT THING SO WHEN PASTOR THOMAS SCOTT GET THERE,
9:57:50AM WHICH HE'LL GET THERE, HE'LL HAVE A HANDFUL.
9:57:53AM FILLING THOSE RETENTION PONDS, CITY DUG HOLES AND TAKE OUR
9:58:04AM LAND.
9:58:05AM GIVE US OUR LAND BACK.
9:58:06AM LET US BUILD A HOUSE THAT WE WANT TO BUILD ON AND NOT TO PUT
9:58:10AM WHAT THEY WANT DONE.

9:58:12AM BUILD TWO-THIRDS.
9:58:15AM THIRDS, BUILD THREE STORIES.
9:58:17AM ONE STORY, REGARDLESS.
9:58:21AM DO WHAT WE WANT THEM TO DO AND DO THE RIGHT THING FOR
9:58:25AM EVERYBODY.
9:58:25AM I GUARANTEE YOU, GOD WILL BLESS ALL OF YOU.
9:58:30AM THANK YOU FOR MY COMMENTS.
9:58:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, PASTOR.
9:58:33AM HAVE A BEAUTIFUL DAY.
9:58:34AM ASHLEY MORROW, FOLLOWED BY JAMES.
9:58:54AM >> HELLO.
9:58:54AM ASHLEY MORROW.
9:58:56AM I'LL BE SHARING BLACK HISTORY.
9:58:57AM WE OFTEN THINK ABOUT THE DOOR OF NO RETURN IN GHANA, THE
9:59:01AM PLACE MR. SLAVES WERE FORCED TO SHIPS FOR PASSAGE.
9:59:06AM TAMPA CARRIES ITS OWN VERSION OF THAT HISTORY.
9:59:09AM WHEN THE NEGRO FORT WAS DESTROYED IN 1816 AND ANDREW JACKSON
9:59:15AM DID THE TREK ACROSS NORTHERN FLORIDA 1818, AS WELL AS THE
9:59:22AM TREATY BEING CREATED.
9:59:24AM THAT SWITCHED THE TERRITORY FROM THE SPANISH TO U.S.
9:59:28AM TERRITORY.
9:59:28AM THEN YOU HAVE THE MOULTRIE CREEK TREATY.
9:59:36AM FORT BROOKE CREATED THE NEXT YEAR, 1824.
9:59:40AM ANDREW JACKSON COMES FOUR YEARS LATER.
9:59:42AM ENACTS INDIAN REMOVAL ACT OF 1830 WHICH RULED THAT THE

9:59:48AM SEMINOLES AND BLACK SEMINOLES NEEDED TO COME THROUGH TAMPA,
9:59:51AM GO TO THE PORT IN LOUISIANA, NEW ORLEANS, FORT PIKE AND UP
9:59:58AM TO OKLAHOMA TO THE RESERVATION.
10:00:00AM THE YEAR AFTER THAT, JOHN WINSLETT COMES TO TAMPA AND WARNED
10:00:08AM HE SHOULD NOT GO LOOKING PAST TAMPA, DANGEROUS OUTSIDE THE
10:00:12AM BORDERS.
10:00:12AM LOOKING FOR A BLACK RUNAWAY SLAVE FROM GEORGIA.
10:00:15AM DADE MASSACRE.
10:00:21AM FROM FORT BROOKE UP TO FORT KING, OCALA AREA.
10:00:24AM THEY ARE MASSACRED, ALL BUT TWO OR THREE PEOPLE.
10:00:29AM THAT HAPPENED IN 1835.
10:00:32AM OBVIOUSLY, THEY WEREN'T GOING TO LEAD A HORDE OF BLACK
10:00:37AM SEMINOLES AND SEMINOLES BACK THROUGH FLORIDA.
10:00:39AM A LOT OF HISTORY BOOKS I LOOKED UP, YOU SEE THIS ARROW
10:00:42AM COMING FROM TAMPA UP TO LOUISIANA.
10:00:44AM WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL, I REMEMBER THEM TALKING ABOUT THE
10:00:47AM TRAIL OF TEARS.
10:00:48AM I ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS A LONG WALK.
10:00:50AM BUT THE SEMINOLES CAME THROUGH THIS PLACE, FORT BROOKE.
10:00:54AM THAT WAS NOT TAUGHT TO ME IN SCHOOL.
10:00:56AM I THINK THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT.
10:00:58AM THIS IS A PHOTO THAT'S VERY FAMILIAR.
10:01:00AM 1837.
10:01:01AM A LOT OF ACTIVITY GOING ON HERE AROUND THAT TIME.
10:01:04AM IMMIGRATION CAMP.

10:01:05AM TAMPA WAS AN IMMIGRATION CAMP.
10:01:08AM GENERAL JESSUP, WRITES A LETTER.
10:01:12AM THE INDIAN NEGRO ALARMED BY THEIR RIVAL IN CAMP OF
10:01:16AM INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE LOST THEIR SLAVES DURING THE WAR, MOST
10:01:20AM OF THEM HAVE FLED.
10:01:22AM THE SEMINOLES DID NOT WANT TO LEAVE UNLESS THEIR BROTHERS
10:01:25AM COULD COME WITH THEM, THE BLACK SEMINOLES.
10:01:28AM SO THEY MADE THE DEAL.
10:01:30AM NAMES RECORDED ON THE DOCUMENTS.
10:01:32AM THESE ARE THEIR NAMES.
10:01:33AM THESE ARE THEIR NAMES.
10:01:38AM THERE'S MORE, SORRY.
10:01:40AM THESE ARE BLACK SEMINOLES.
10:01:45AM AND THEY WERE TAKEN TO FORT PIKE AND SOME RESOLD BACK INTO
10:01:50AM SLAVERY.
10:01:51AM THESE ARE THEIR NAMES.
10:01:53AM THESE ARE THEIR NAMES, AND THESE ARE THEIR NAMES.
10:01:59AM TWO MORE.
10:02:00AM ALL RIGHT.
10:02:01AM THANK YOU.
10:02:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
10:02:02AM I REALLY ENJOY YOUR PRESENTATION.
10:02:04AM >> I'LL BE BACK NEXT WEEK.
10:02:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JAMES ADAIR FOLLOWED BY CARROLL ANN
10:02:07AM BENNETT.

10:02:08AM MR. INTERNET YouTube STAR, JAMES ADAIR.
10:02:43AM >> WE'VE GOT SOME PRETTY EXCITING STUFF GOING ON.
10:02:45AM LAST TIME WE WERE HERE, WE TALKED ABOUT HOW DO -- JAMES
10:02:50AM ADAIR.
10:02:51AM THE AGENT WHO CARES OUT OF SOUTH TAMPA, SOUTH OF GANDY.
10:02:54AM WE SPOKE ABOUT WHAT DO WE DO IF PEOPLE ARE BLOWING LEAFS
10:02:59AM INTO THE DRAINS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
10:03:01AM I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE WATCH THESE THINGS BUT I GOT A CALL
10:03:04AM FROM A NEIGHBOR OFF ROME, HEY, THIS GUY IS DUMPING POOL
10:03:07AM DEBRIS INTO A DRAIN.
10:03:09AM I GUESS NEW CONSTRUCTION.
10:03:10AM WE WORKED WITH THE CITY.
10:03:12AM CODE ENFORCEMENT, THEY DID GO OUT.
10:03:13AM THEY VERIFIED, DID ISSUE A CITATION.
10:03:16AM THAT'S GOOD NEWS.
10:03:17AM AND FOLLOWED UP AND FOUND OUT THAT IT ALL ACTUALLY HAPPENED.
10:03:21AM THAT WAS GOOD.
10:03:22AM ONE, MAYBE WE CAN MARKET THAT.
10:03:25AM GET BACK TO MY NOTES.
10:03:29AM SO I HAD MANY BUT YOU HAVE ANSWERED THEM ALONG THE WAY.
10:03:32AM VERY HELPFUL.
10:03:33AM I HAVE A COUPLE OF AWESOME OTHER IDEAS FOR YOU.
10:03:36AM STORMWATER STILL A BIG DEAL.
10:03:47AM I KNOW IT IS A LITTLE BIT FATIGUING FOR PROBABLY PEOPLE WHO
10:03:50AM WORK IN THAT DEPARTMENT, ESPECIALLY BEING SIX DAYS.

10:03:53AM BUT I THOUGHT THAT THE LOUDEST ADVOCATES PROBABLY NEED TO
10:03:56AM HAVE THE BEST INFORMATION.
10:03:58AM SO THAT WHEN WE TAKE PODIUM TIME, IT'S INFORMED INSTEAD OF
10:04:02AM OPINIONATED AND UNEDUCATED.
10:04:04AM WHY NOT DO AN INTENSIVE.
10:04:06AM A THREE-DAY, KIND OF LIKE A LEADERSHIP TAMPA BAY BUT ALL
10:04:09AM ABOUT THE STORMWATER.
10:04:10AM 15 PEOPLE, MAYBE ONE CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, ONE PERSON FROM
10:04:13AM THE PRESS THAT DIVES DEEP IN EACH OF THE PARTICULAR AREAS.
10:04:17AM ON THE AGENDA, YOU CAN SEE ON THE SUBSEQUENT PAGES, JUST FOR
10:04:21AM THE RECORD, SCREEN SHOT.
10:04:27AM ANOTHER ONE.
10:04:28AM ESSENTIALLY, WE'VE HAD ENGINEERING CONVERSATIONS, HOW DO
10:04:35AM THESE THINGS GET PASSED.
10:04:36AM BASICALLY THE ARGUMENT GOES BETWEEN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT
10:04:38AM AND ACTUAL STORMWATER ENGINEERING, WE NEED TO HAVE TIME WITH
10:04:41AM EACH OF THOSE TO EXPLAIN THINGS LIKE GREENSPACE, PERMEABLE
10:04:45AM MATERIAL, STUFF LIKE THAT.
10:04:46AM MICHELLE'S ISSUE PARTICULARLY, WE GET EXCITED ABOUT IT.
10:04:49AM VERY LARGE PROJECT.
10:04:50AM WHEN YOU PULL UP THE DEVELOPMENT MAP OR THE SURVEY FOR IT, I
10:04:54AM CAN'T MAKE HEADS OR TAILS OF WHAT IS OR ISN'T A MANGROVE,
10:04:58AM FOR EXAMPLE.
10:04:59AM WE NEED PEOPLE EDUCATED IN THAT TO GIVE US THE PLAY-BY-PLAY.
10:05:02AM I KNOW STORMWATER HAS DONE A TON OF TOWN HALLS.

10:05:05AM BUT SITTING THROUGH MANY OF THOSE, SOME OF THE SAME
10:05:08AM QUESTIONS OVER AND OVER AGAIN FROM SOME OF THE SAME PEOPLE.
10:05:10AM IT'S NOT LIKE WE NEED A WHODUNIT.
10:05:13AM WE NEED EDUCATION.
10:05:14AM STEPHANIE BROUGHT UP STAFFING ISSUES.
10:05:16AM WHY ON THE LIST DOES IT LOOK LIKE THIS WHEN WE SAY WE ONLY
10:05:19AM HAVE 64.
10:05:20AM PROBABLY EASILY EXPLAINED.
10:05:21AM IF WE HAD TIME TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE PRESENTATIONS, LIKE WHAT
10:05:24AM IS OUTLINED HERE, WE DIVE DEEP IN SOME OF THE BIGGEST THINGS
10:05:29AM AND REALLY START MAKING DIFFERENCES IN AREAS THAT ACTUALLY
10:05:32AM MATTER.
10:05:33AM I'M REALLY IMPRESSED WITH A LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENT, PEOPLE
10:05:36AM ABLE TO DIVE IN.
10:05:38AM I THINK THAT'S FANTASTIC.
10:05:38AM I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT IF WE CAN HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS,
10:05:41AM OBVIOUSLY, CONNECT WITH YOU ON THIS, AND THEN ALSO SMOOTH
10:05:44AM JOSH.
10:05:45AM I WILL SAY THIS, HURRY, HERBIE.
10:05:48AM SO HELPFUL.
10:05:49AM GETTING IT DONE.
10:05:52AM ITEM 74 IS THAT STILL HAPPENING?
10:05:55AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STAFF IS LISTENING.
10:05:56AM SOMEBODY WILL BITE ON THIS.
10:05:58AM >> DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FOR ITEM 74 IN THE AUDIENCE?

10:06:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CARROLL ANN BENNETT FOLLOWED BY -- DID
10:06:12AM STEVE MICHELINI LEAVE?
10:06:14AM I THINK HE LEFT.
10:06:16AM IS HE STILL THERE?
10:06:18AM THERE HE IS.
10:06:20AM CARROLL ANN BENNETT FOLLOWED BY STEVE MICHELINI.
10:06:23AM >> HI.
10:06:24AM MY NAME IS CARROLL ANN BENNETT.
10:06:29AM THE STAFF SAID THAT THE CURRENT COMP PLAN, LAND USE PLAN CAN
10:06:33AM ACCOMMODATE THE 74,000 PEOPLE OR 32,000 MORE UNITS WE NEED
10:06:37AM BY 2045.
10:06:39AM THEY SAID THEY ARE MAKING THE CHANGES SO THEY COULD DIRECT
10:06:42AM THE GROWTH INTO THE RIGHT PLACE.
10:06:44AM I'M A GARDENER.
10:06:46AM I KNOW THAT FERTILIZER IS EXPENSIVE.
10:06:48AM IF I LOOK AT A SECTION OF MY GARDEN AND PLANTS ARE GOING
10:06:52AM GANGBUSTERS, I DON'T PUT FERTILIZER THERE.
10:06:56AM I DON'T SPREAD IT ALL OVER THE WHOLE GARDEN.
10:06:58AM IF I DO, THE AREA ALREADY FLOURISHING, IF I SPUR IT FURTHER,
10:07:03AM IT WILL OVERGROW AND ACTUALLY END UP DYING.
10:07:06AM IT'S GOING TO BE UNHEALTHY.
10:07:07AM I LOOK FOR THE STAGNANT AREAS OF MY GARDEN AND THAT'S WHERE
10:07:11AM I PUT MY FERTILIZER.
10:07:12AM THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
10:07:14AM GO INTO THE PARTS OF THE CITY AND SAY ADD THIS HERE, ADD

10:07:18AM THIS HERE, ADD THIS HERE.
10:07:19AM LOOK AT OUR GARDEN SO THAT THE WHOLE GARDEN GROWS AND IS
10:07:24AM LUSH AND BEAUTIFUL.
10:07:27AM I SENT YOU ALL AN EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING IN SEMINOLE HEIGHTS
10:07:30AM WHICH I THINK IS THE PERFECT WAY TO DO IT.
10:07:32AM IT IS A VERY GOOD EXAMPLE OF HOW YOU ADD, ADD, ADD.
10:07:36AM I WANT TO MAKE THE POINT THAT WHEN I GO INTO -- I'M AN
10:07:39AM EXPERT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:07:41AM LIFELONG RESIDENT OF SOUTH TAMPA.
10:07:43AM WANT TO KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT SOUTH TAMPA, I'M YOUR GAL.
10:07:46AM WHEN I GO INTO OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS, I LISTEN BECAUSE I AM
10:07:49AM NOT AN EXPERT IN THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:07:50AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WANT AND NEED, SO I LISTEN.
10:07:53AM I'M NOT SO ARROGANT AS TO SAY I KNOW WHAT YOU NEED.
10:07:58AM WHEN I GO TO NORTH TAMPA AND THEY SAY THIS LOT HAS BEEN
10:08:02AM VACANT THIS MANY YEARS, THIS BUILDING VACANT, PLEASE, HOW DO
10:08:05AM WE GET REDEVELOPMENT, WHEN I GO TO DISTRICT 5 AND THEY SAY
10:08:09AM WE NEED ADUs, DUPLEXES, TRIPLEXES, MULTIUNIT.
10:08:13AM PEOPLE LIKE BOBBY CREIGHTON TELL YOU WHAT HIS NEIGHBORHOOD
10:08:16AM NEED, TELL YOU WHAT I'M HEARING.
10:08:18AM YOU'VE GOT TO TALK TO THE BOBBIES AND THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE
10:08:22AM THERE BECAUSE THEY ARE THE EXPERTS, NOT ME.
10:08:24AM I'M AN EXPERT ON MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:08:26AM THEY KNOW THEIR STREETS, THEIR BUSINESSES, THEIR
10:08:30AM INTERSECTIONS.

10:08:31AM THEY ARE LEGITIMATE.
10:08:32AM BUT I WANT TO MAKE A QUICK COMMENT, THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE
10:08:35AM WHO DON'T HAVE A LIST OF WHAT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD WANTS AND
10:08:37AM NEEDS.
10:08:38AM THEY ONLY HAVE OPINIONS ABOUT EVERYBODY ELSE'S
10:08:40AM NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:08:40AM THEY ONLY SPEAK DIVISIVELY, CALL PEOPLE NAMES AND SAY THE
10:08:45AM PEOPLE ARE EVIL WITH EVIL MOTIVES.
10:08:47AM THESE PEOPLE TEND TO HAVE STAGGERINGLY INACCURATE
10:08:51AM INFORMATION.
10:08:51AM THEY ARE NOT ASKING FOR HELP WITH THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.
10:08:55AM DO I NOT CONSIDER PEOPLE LIKE THAT LEGITIMATE.
10:08:57AM I HOPE YOU LISTEN TO THE BOBBY CREIGHTONS AND THE OTHER
10:09:03AM PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS WHO KNOW WHAT IS GOING
10:09:05AM ON WITH THIS BUSINESS, THIS INTERSECTION, THIS GROUP OF
10:09:08AM HOMES.
10:09:08AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:09:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
10:09:12AM STEVE MICHELINI.
10:09:14AM NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE JOHN GREEN.
10:09:23AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:09:24AM I'M HERE TO SUPPORT ITEM NUMBER 28 ON YOUR AGENDA.
10:09:27AM IT'S BEEN PENDING FOR QUITE A WHILE.
10:09:31AM I WOULD LIKE TO THANK COUNCILWOMAN LYNN HURTAK AND HER
10:09:36AM STAFF, KELLY.

10:09:39AM THIS IS A LETTER THAT I PREPARED IN SUPPORT OF THIS BUDGET
10:09:42AM AMENDMENT BACK IN 2022.
10:09:45AM IT OUTLINES THE PLAYGROUND AND THE NEED.
10:09:51AM THIS IS THE PLAYGROUND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
10:09:54AM IT'S AT THE SOUTH HIMES FACILITY FOR THE INTERBAY YMCA.
10:09:58AM PARENTS USUALLY END UP SHINING THEIR CAR LIGHTS ON THIS
10:10:05AM BASKETBALL COURT TO ALLOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD KIDS TO PLAY.
10:10:08AM THIS IS NOT A LEAGUE.
10:10:10AM THIS IS PICKUP BASKETBALL GAMES.
10:10:13AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA MAY REMEMBER SHERISHA HILLS, WHO IS NOW
10:10:18AM IN NORTH CAROLINA.
10:10:19AM I COPIED HER ON AN E-MAIL TELLING HER WE FINALLY GOT TO THE
10:10:22AM CITY COUNCIL.
10:10:23AM I WANT TO SHOW YOU A COUPLE OF PICTURES.
10:10:27AM THIS IS ON BAY STREET, THE 3800 BLOCK OF BAY STREET WHERE
10:10:30AM THE CITY JUST FINISHED CLEANING OUT THE DITCHES THERE.
10:10:34AM THEY DID A GREAT JOB.
10:10:35AM THE ONLY THING IS, IN THE 3900 BLOCK, AND YOU CAN SEE DOWN
10:10:39AM HERE IS WHERE THEY CLEANED IT OUT.
10:10:42AM THIS IS THE 3900 BLOCK WHERE THE STORMWATER INLET IS.
10:10:46AM THIS IS WHERE THEY CLEANED.
10:10:51AM THIS IS WHERE THEY DIDN'T, AND THEY STOPPED.
10:10:54AM THERE WAS A CREW OF SIX PEOPLE THAT GOT OUT OF A TRUCK, AND
10:10:59AM THEY PROCEEDED TO CUT THE WEEDS OUT OF THE 3800 BLOCK AND
10:11:03AM DIDN'T TOUCH THE NEXT BLOCK.

10:11:05AM AS WE'RE GOING FORWARD WITH MAINTENANCE OF STORMWATER
10:11:07AM DITCHES AND CANALS, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE FOCUS ON
10:11:12AM THE MAINTENANCE BEFORE WE START EXPENDING LARGE AMOUNTS OF
10:11:15AM MONEY FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS.
10:11:16AM I WOULD CERTAINLY SUGGEST AND I KNOW THERE ARE MANY OTHERS
10:11:21AM THAT WOULD SAY THE SAME THING.
10:11:24AM SHIFT THIS MONEY OVER TO MAINTENANCE AND HIT IT HARD AND HIT
10:11:27AM IT FAST.
10:11:28AM WE'RE GETTING READY TO ENTER INTO THE RAINY SEASON,
10:11:31AM POTENTIALLY HURRICANE SEASON, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF AREAS
10:11:34AM THAT HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN TOUCHED YET.
10:11:37AM I WILL SAY THEY DID A GREAT JOB IN THE 3800 BLOCK, BUT ALL
10:11:40AM THE WATER GOES TO THE WEST OF THE 3900 BLOCK.
10:11:43AM PLEASE CONSIDER THAT IN YOUR DELIBERATIONS.
10:11:46AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:11:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MR. MICHELINI.
10:11:48AM JOHN GREEN, FOLLOWED BY BISHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY.
10:11:53AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:11:53AM JOHN GREEN, HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 38.
10:11:57AM JOHN GREEN.
10:11:58AM HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE ISSUES OF THE HUNDRED THOUSAND
10:12:00AM DOLLARS GOING TO OR BEING CONSIDERED GOING TO THE NAACP.
10:12:04AM BEING THAT IT IS THE COUNTYWIDE PROGRAM, I FEEL THAT I CAN
10:12:07AM SPEAK ON IT.
10:12:08AM I'M NOT HERE TO OPPOSE THE GRANT, BUT I'M HERE TO SEE HOW

10:12:12AM THE CITY WILL BE TRANSPARENT HOLDING THIS ORGANIZATION TO
10:12:15AM THE HIGHEST STANDARD OF ACCOUNTABILITY BY MAKING INFORMATION
10:12:20AM AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.
10:12:22AM THIS IS WHAT YOU ALREADY HAVE ON YOUR PROPOSAL, SO WE JUST
10:12:28AM WANT TO KNOW THAT.
10:12:29AM NUMBER ONE, ALL ATTENDANCE SHEETS SO THAT NAMES CAN BE
10:12:33AM VERIFIED AND LOCATIONS OF THE WORK -- WORKSHOPS IN ADVANCE.
10:12:39AM NUMBER TWO, WHAT TYPE OF PROGRAMS WAS PROVIDED AND BY WHOM
10:12:44AM WITH DATES AND DAYS.
10:12:46AM CAN THE PROPOSAL BE ASSESSED THERE THE CITY COUNCIL WEBSITE
10:12:50AM FOR THE PUBLIC VIEWING?
10:12:52AM THREE, CAN THE PUBLIC SEE ALL EXPENDITURES ON HOW THE
10:12:56AM HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS WAS SPENT AND WHO SIGNED OFF ON THE
10:13:01AM MONIES TO BE RELEASED.
10:13:02AM NUMBER FOUR, WHAT SALARIES WAS PAID AND HOW?
10:13:06AM FOR EXAMPLE, STIPENDS, SALARIES, 1099s.
10:13:10AM THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO KNOW HOW THE TAXPAYER MONIES ARE BEING
10:13:14AM UTILIZED.
10:13:16AM WITH THE SHORTAGE OF LOW INCOME HOUSING, HIGH RENT, PEOPLE
10:13:21AM HAVING TROUBLE GETTING FUNDS TO REBUILD THEIR LIVES DUE TO
10:13:24AM HURRICANES, THE COMMUNITY, TAXPAYERS DESERVE THE RIGHT TO
10:13:28AM HAVE FULL ACCESS TO THE INFORMATION AND IF REQUESTED, THE
10:13:32AM OPPORTUNITY TO SIT IN ON ALL TRAININGS AND WORKSHOPS
10:13:36AM REGARDLESS OF MEMBERSHIP OR NOT.
10:13:38AM CONCERNING 568, I'M QUITE SURE YOU ALL KNOW ABOUT THE

10:13:46AM CONSTITUTION.
10:13:48AM AMENDMENT 14, SUBSECTION 4, WE ALL KNOW THAT IT SAYS YOU
10:13:57AM WILL NOT PAY SLAVES OR INSURRECTIONISTS FOR ANYTHING.
10:14:01AM SO IN TERMS OF 568, IT'S GAS-LIGHTING.
10:14:05AM IT NEVER HAD NO TEETH, AND IT WAS ONLY FOR POLITICAL
10:14:08AM REASONS.
10:14:09AM THANK YOU.
10:14:09AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:14:11AM BISHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY.
10:14:13AM THE NEXT SPEAKER, ALISON HEWITT.
10:14:16AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:14:17AM MY NAME IS BISHOP MICHELLE B. PATTY.
10:14:20AM I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 38.
10:14:24AM I'D FIRST LIKE TO START OFF BY SAYING I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE
10:14:28AM NAACP RECEIVING A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, BUT I AM
10:14:32AM CONCERNED THAT THEY HELD THE CONTRACT FOR OVER TEN MONTHS
10:14:36AM AND IT WAS JUST SIGNED ON THE 8th OF THIS MONTH.
10:14:41AM THE 8th OF THIS MONTH AND IT ENDS THIS -- THIS FISCAL YEAR
10:14:46AM ENDS SEPTEMBER 30 OF '25.
10:14:48AM SO HOW MUCH WORK CAN BE DONE AND HOW MUCH IS GOING TO BE
10:14:53AM PRESENTED WHERE THE PUBLIC CAN SEE WHAT HAS TAKEN PLACE TO
10:14:58AM RECEIVE THAT MONEY.
10:14:59AM I'M ASKING THAT THINGS BE TRANSPARENT.
10:15:03AM IT SAYS CLEARLY THAT THEY HAVE TO OUTLINE EACH TRAINING
10:15:08AM SESSION, DATES, TIME, AND TOTAL ATTENDEES.

10:15:12AM CLIENT SERVICE, INCLUDE THE NUMBER OF CLIENTS, BUSINESS
10:15:17AM ASSISTANCE, WORKSHOPS AND SEMINARS CONDUCTED.
10:15:20AM THERE IS A WHOLE LIST OF THINGS THAT HAS TO BE ACCOMPLISHED
10:15:23AM BEFORE THIS $100,000 IS GIVEN OUT.
10:15:27AM ALSO, SUPPOSED TO BE AN AUDIT.
10:15:30AM AN AUDIT.
10:15:31AM UNDER CHAPTER 119.01, THE COMMUNITY WILL BE ASKING FOR
10:15:40AM PUBLIC REQUEST ABOUT WHAT WAS SUBMITTED TO THIS CITY TO
10:15:45AM RECEIVE THIS MONEY, WHAT WORK WAS DONE, BECAUSE SOMEONE
10:15:48AM COULD SIMPLY TAKE A PHONE BOOK AND WRITE NAMES DOWN OF
10:15:52AM ATTENDEES.
10:15:53AM WE ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT RAN THESE
10:15:56AM WORKSHOPS, THAT THEY HAD THE PROFESSIONAL BACKGROUND TO RUN
10:16:01AM THE WORKSHOP.
10:16:02AM SO THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS, UP THIS VERY SUSPECT THAT THEY
10:16:06AM WOULD HOLD THAT CONTRACT FOR TEN MONTHS.
10:16:09AM TEN MONTHS.
10:16:13AM SINK IN.
10:16:13AM TEN MONTHS.
10:16:14AM NOW ON THE 8th OF AUGUST AND IT'S GOING TO END ON
10:16:18AM SEPTEMBER THE 30th, THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH THAT.
10:16:22AM THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG.
10:16:23AM ARE THEY GOING TO TRY TO BOMBARD YOU ALL WITH RECEIPTS AND
10:16:29AM INFORMATION AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE PROPERLY VETTED?
10:16:33AM THAT WOULD BE A DISSERVICE TO THE TAXPAYERS OF THIS CITY.

10:16:37AM SO EVERY PIECE OF PAPER, EVERY RECEIPT, EVERY NAME THAT IS
10:16:43AM SUBMITTED SHOULD BE VETTED AND MAKE SURE THAT THESE PEOPLE
10:16:48AM WAS IN ATTENDANCE.
10:16:49AM MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE RECEIVE THE SERVICE.
10:16:51AM AND ALSO WHERE IS THE PROPER NOTICE THAT IS SUPPOSEDLY,
10:16:56AM ACCORDING TO THIS CONTRACT GIVEN TO THE PUBLIC THAT THEY
10:16:59AM WOULD KNOW THESE CLASSES ARE BEING DONE?
10:17:03AM AT THE SCHOOL BOARD, IT TELLS THEM NOBODY IS SUPPOSED TO BE
10:17:06AM ON THE PROPERTY, SO WHERE ARE THE CLASSES HELD?
10:17:09AM THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT THE CITY NEED TO TAKE CARE OF
10:17:12AM BEFORE THEY WRITE A CHECK FOR $100,000 TO GIVE TO SOMEONE.
10:17:16AM THANK YOU.
10:17:17AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, DIMINISH ON.
10:17:20AM CANDIDATE ALISON HEWITT.
10:17:30AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:17:31AM ALISON HEWITT.
10:17:33AM CANDIDATE FOR DISTRICT 5.
10:17:34AM AFTER CONSULTATION WITH MR. SHELBY, I HAVE FIVE ITEMS THAT I
10:17:39AM WILL BE TALKING ABOUT, BUT I WILL RESERVE THREE FOR THE
10:17:43AM PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN ONE FOR THE WORKSHOP.
10:17:47AM SO THE ONE I WILL FOCUS ON RIGHT NOW IS COORDINATION.
10:17:51AM THE CITY, THE CRA PAYS THE CITY $5.2 MILLION TO MANAGE THE
10:17:57AM CRAs.
10:17:58AM YOU HAVE ITEMS ON YOUR AGENDA, ITEMS 13 THROUGH 17 THAT ARE
10:18:04AM CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUES.

10:18:06AM IN THE EAST TAMPA CRP, COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN, IT
10:18:10AM STATES IN THERE THAT THE PRIORITY SHOULD BE TO WORK WITH
10:18:12AM PROPERTY OWNERS BEFORE THEY ARE FINED, BEFORE THE PROPERTY
10:18:15AM IS TAKEN.
10:18:16AM I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S DOCUMENTED IN THE ADDRESSES
10:18:19AM THAT ARE ON HERE THAT ARE IN THE EAST TAMPA CRA, THAT THE
10:18:23AM CRP WAS FOLLOWED AND MAKE SURE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS HAD AN
10:18:27AM OPPORTUNITY TO KNOW THAT THEY WERE IN THE CRA AND HAVE THE
10:18:30AM ACCESS TO RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES.
10:18:33AM SO I WILL BRING BACK UP HERE FOUR MORE TIMES TO MAKE SURE.
10:18:40AM AND IN THE PACKET THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, I MADE SURE
10:18:45AM I HAVE THE DOCUMENTATION AND THE PICTURES, BUT THE OTHER
10:18:47AM ISSUES ON WHICH I'LL SPEAK ABOUT.
10:18:49AM THANK YOU.
10:18:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
10:18:50AM FERNANDO FOLLOWED BY SYLVIA SMITH.
10:18:55AM FERNANDO, GOING ONCE, TWICE?
10:19:02AM SYLVIA SMITH.
10:19:03AM GOOD MORNING.
10:19:12AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:19:12AM MY NAME IS SYLVIA SMITH.
10:19:15AM THIRD GENERATION SOUTH TAMPA RESIDENT.
10:19:17AM I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL FOR HAVING THE PRESENTATION AT THE
10:19:25AM FIVE DISTRICTS BY THE STAFF OF THE HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY
10:19:29AM PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE CITY OF TAMPA.

10:19:34AM THESE MEETINGS, I THINK, WERE WELL ATTENDED.
10:19:36AM I ATTENDED THE MEETING THAT WAS AT MADISON ELEMENTARY
10:19:42AM SCHOOL, AND I THINK IT WAS WELL, CLOSE TO 140 PEOPLE THERE.
10:19:46AM SO IT WAS WELL ATTENDED.
10:19:48AM I WANT TO THANK THE STAFF THAT DID THE PRESENTATION AND
10:19:55AM INFORM THOSE RESIDENTS OF THE CHANGES THAT WILL BE MADE TO
10:19:59AM THE EXISTING COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WILL AFFECT THEIR
10:20:02AM NEIGHBORHOOD.
10:20:04AM SOME OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS WERE FOUNDED 100 YEARS AGO,
10:20:09AM OTHERS POST WORLD WAR II.
10:20:11AM BUT THEY ARE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE RICH HERITAGE, AND IT
10:20:15AM WILL BE AT THEIR EXPENSE THAT DEVELOPERS BENEFIT BY THOSE
10:20:19AM CHANGES.
10:20:20AM THANK YOU.
10:20:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:20:23AM CHARLIE ADAMS.
10:20:24AM THE NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE, WE'LL GET TO HER IN ONE SECOND.
10:20:34AM SHE'S GONE TO ONE WORD LIKE CHER.
10:20:38AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
10:20:39AM THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
10:20:45AM MY NAME IS CHARLIE ADAMS, REPRESENTATIVE OF SULPHUR SPRINGS
10:20:48AM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
10:20:52AM THANK YOU, CITY COUNCILMAN BILL CARLSON FOR COMING OUT TO
10:20:56AM VISIT.
10:20:58AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK --

10:20:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN YOU SPEAK UP A LITTLE BIT?
10:21:00AM >> I'M SORRY.
10:21:00AM CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?
10:21:01AM COUNCILMAN BILL CARLSON, THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT TO VISIT
10:21:07AM SULPHUR SPRINGS COMMUNITY.
10:21:08AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK FOR COMING OUT TO OUR MASTER PLAN
10:21:13AM HEARING AND MANISCALCO -- COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, THANK YOU
10:21:18AM FOR HOPEFULLY WE CAN RESCHEDULE SOON TO COME VISIT.
10:21:22AM A FEW PRESSING ITEMS I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION THIS MORNING IN
10:21:26AM REGARDS TO WE SPOKE ABOUT IT PREVIOUSLY BEFORE IN REGARDS TO
10:21:31AM SULPHUR SPRINGS POOL.
10:21:32AM LIKE TO KEEP THAT IN THE FOREFRONT.
10:21:34AM ALSO BOARDWALK THAT WE SPOKE ABOUT BRIEFLY AS WELL AS US
10:21:40AM BEING A FOOD DESERT IN THE SULPHUR SPRINGS COMMUNITY,
10:21:43AM HOPEFULLY WE CAN BRING SOME ATTENTION, ALLOCATE SOME
10:21:46AM RESOURCES TO THE FARMERS MARKET AND TO CREATE JOBS,
10:21:50AM EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN KEEP SULPHUR
10:21:53AM SPRINGS A RELEVANT TOPIC WITH THE CITY AND HOPEFULLY YOU ALL
10:21:58AM CAN HELP US HELP US SAVE OURSELVES.
10:22:03AM THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:22:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MR. ADAMS.
10:22:06AM POYNOR.
10:22:09AM ONE WORD NOW, RIGHT?
10:22:12AM >> THAT'S ALL IT TAKES.
10:22:14AM WHY BE EXCESSIVE?

10:22:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE ROBIN LOCKETT.
10:22:50AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:22:51AM MY NAME IS STEPHANIE POYNOR.
10:22:53AM I'M ASKING FOR MY BUDGET -- FOR THE BUDGET COMMITTEE FIRST.
10:22:57AM WE HAD A REQUEST IN TO SPEAK TO THAT.
10:23:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHY DON'T WE HOLD THAT UNTIL AFTER PUBLIC
10:23:04AM COMMENT AND BRING YOU UP AS BUDGET --
10:23:07AM >> I GAVE YOU THE PAPER WORK.
10:23:09AM I'LL COME BACK AND GET IT.
10:23:11AM WORKS FOR ME.
10:23:12AM LET'S TALK ABOUT MY STUFF.
10:23:14AM GOOD MORNING.
10:23:15AM STEPHANIE POYNOR, CITIZEN OF TAMPA.
10:23:18AM THERE'S TOO MUCH GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
10:23:20AM THIS IS CRAZY ALL THIS STUFF GOING ON.
10:23:22AM I PASSED YOU A LETTER FROM THE UNIVERSITY SQUARE FOLKS.
10:23:24AM I NOTICED THAT THEY ONLY SENT IT TO COUNCILMAN CARLSON, BUT
10:23:28AM I THINK IT'S VERY INDICATIVE OF HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO MAKE
10:23:32AM SURE THAT THE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE GIVING FEEDBACK ON THE COMP
10:23:38AM PLAN AMENDMENTS.
10:23:39AM WHEN I WAS DIGGING THROUGH ALL MY STUFF AND, OF COURSE, YOU
10:23:43AM KNOW ME, I MAKE A MESS OUT OF EVERYTHING, BUT I WAS LOOKING
10:23:46AM AT THIS.
10:23:46AM AND THIS IS GONE FROM THE NEW COMP PLAN AMENDMENT,
10:23:51AM ENCOURAGING MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING.

10:23:53AM AS SOMEBODY WHO OWNS MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING, IT IS A GREAT
10:23:57AM WAY FOR SMALL FOLKS TO PROVIDE HOUSING AT A REASONABLE
10:24:00AM PRICE.
10:24:01AM I HAVE FOLKS IN MY MISSING MIDDLE THAT HAVE BEEN THERE SEVEN
10:24:06AM OR EIGHT YEARS.
10:24:08AM ONLY MOVE TO NURSING HOMES OR GO AND GET MARRIED.
10:24:10AM I ALSO WANTED TO NOTE -- THAT WAS IN THE FEBRUARY 2025 PLAN
10:24:14AM THAT WENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN MAY.
10:24:17AM I ALSO WANT TO NOTE THAT ORIGINALLY, THE FOLKS AT THE
10:24:21AM PLANNING COMMISSION THOUGHT IT WAS OKAY NOT TO PUT THAT DATE
10:24:24AM ON THERE, AND THEY NOW PUT A DATE ON THERE THAT SAYS THEY
10:24:28AM CAN DO IT.
10:24:29AM I'M NOT AGAINST MISSING MIDDLE.
10:24:32AM I OWN TWO MISSING MIDDLE UNITS.
10:24:35AM I MEAN, SERIOUSLY.
10:24:35AM I THINK WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT PEOPLE GET ALL RILED UP BECAUSE
10:24:42AM WHEN WE SAY DUPLEXES OR TOWN HOUSES, THIS IS A SINGLE-FAMILY
10:24:46AM HOME.
10:24:47AM HERE IS THE ROOFLINE FOR THAT SINGLE-FAMILY HOME.
10:24:50AM THIS IS THE DUPLEX TOWN HOUSE THAT THEY ARE PUTTING IN NEXT
10:24:57AM DOOR.
10:24:57AM I'VE BEEN THERE IN THE MORNING.
10:24:59AM THEY DON'T EVEN GET SUN UNTIL LIKE NOONTIME NOW BECAUSE THIS
10:25:03AM MONSTROSITY IS HERE.
10:25:05AM SO THIS IS PART OF THE PROBLEM.

10:25:07AM THE THING ABOUT IT IS, WHEN YOU'RE DOING SINGLE-FAMILY
10:25:11AM ATTACHED, THEY NO LONGER APPLY TO THE 50% RULE.
10:25:15AM THEY HAVE TO DO RETENTION ON-SITE.
10:25:17AM THAT WAY THEY GET A NICE LITTLE RETENTION POND WHICH ENDS UP
10:25:21AM GETTING FILLED IN LATER.
10:25:24AM WHY WOULD ANYBODY WANT THIS NEXT DOOR TO THEM?
10:25:26AM I DON'T BLAME ANYBODY FOR SCREAMING AND HOLLERING ABOUT IT
10:25:30AM IN THE COMP PLAN.
10:25:33AM I WANTED TO SAY I SUPPORT BOBBY'S OPINIONS ON CODE
10:25:36AM ENFORCEMENT.
10:25:37AM I AGREE WITH TARAH BLUMA.
10:25:41AM WHERE ARE THE PARKS DISTRICTS?
10:25:42AM I WANT TO KNOW WHERE THAT MONEY WAS SPENT THAT WE DISHED
10:25:45AM OUT.
10:25:46AM I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT I 100% SUPPORT THE FUNDS THAT YOU AS
10:25:52AM COUNCIL DELEGATED TO THE NAACP.
10:25:54AM THE QUESTION I HAVE IS, WHY HASN'T IT GOTTEN TO THEM?
10:25:58AM THAT'S FY '25'S MONEY.
10:26:01AM WHY IS IT STILL SITTING AT THE CITY OF TAMPA BANK ACCOUNT?
10:26:06AM I CAN HYPOTHESIZE ON THAT.
10:26:10AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:26:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: STAY CLOSE.
10:26:11AM WE ONLY HAVE TWO MORE SPEAKERS.
10:26:13AM ROBIN LOCKETT, FOLLOWED BY THE LAST SPEAKER WILL BE CONNIE
10:26:16AM BURTON.

10:26:18AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:26:20AM ROBIN LOCKETT.
10:26:21AM I FIRST WANT TO THANK COUNCIL FOR APPROVING ITEM NUMBER 28.
10:26:29AM ANYTHING DEALING WITH THE YELLOW JACKETS AND ANY TYPE OF
10:26:32AM IMPROVEMENT, I APPLAUD.
10:26:34AM THE SECOND THING IS, IN REGARDS TO THE COMP PLAN, I HAVE TO
10:26:39AM THINK THIS OUT.
10:26:41AM THERE IS A MEETING THIS EVENING.
10:26:42AM THERE ARE MEETINGS OVER THE LAST MONTH.
10:26:47AM I THINK ANY DECISION REGARDING THE COMP PLAN SHOULD BE HELD
10:26:51AM OFF UNTIL YOU FILL THAT SEAT.
10:26:53AM BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE A BLACK VOICE TO SPEAK FOR THE
10:26:59AM COMMUNITY OF EAST TAMPA.
10:27:00AM YOU DON'T HAVE A DECISION TO MAKE IN REGARDS TO THE BUDGET
10:27:05AM BECAUSE THERE IS A DEADLINE FOR THAT.
10:27:07AM THE OPPORTUNITY FOR WHOEVER GETS THAT SEAT, I THINK THAT
10:27:10AM THEY NEED TO HAVE INPUT FOR THAT COMMUNITY.
10:27:13AM THAT'S MY THING ON THAT.
10:27:14AM I HAVE TO COMMENT ON THE COMMENT ABOUT RESOLUTION 568.
10:27:22AM 568, THE DESIGN OF 568 WAS JUST A DESIGN.
10:27:29AM THE TEETH THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE PROVIDED OR THE TEETH THAT
10:27:33AM WILL BE PROVIDED REGARDING 568 IS COMING FROM THE COMMITTEE.
10:27:36AM THAT'S FOR US TO DO, RIGHT?
10:27:39AM LOUIS DESIGNED IT, CREATED THE RESOLUTION, BUT IT'S UP FOR
10:27:45AM THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, THE BLACK COMMITTEE MEMBERS THAT SIT

10:27:48AM IN THAT -- THAT MET AND STILL WILL MEET TO PROVIDE THAT
10:27:52AM INFORMATION, THOSE TEETH THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS.
10:27:57AM THAT'S MY THING ON THAT.
10:27:58AM SO THANK YOU.
10:27:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MS. LOCKETT.
10:28:00AM CONNIE BURTON IS OUR LAST SPEAKER.
10:28:05AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:28:06AM CONNIE BURTON.
10:28:08AM I WANT TO FIRST APPRECIATE THE SPEAKER THAT COME UP HERE
10:28:14AM WEEKLY TO GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF HISTORY OF OUR EXISTENCE
10:28:18AM HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
10:28:19AM I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.
10:28:22AM ITEM 13 THROUGH 17, IT'S THE LITTLE THINGS THAT THE
10:28:28AM COMMUNITY CONTINUE TO ASK FOR.
10:28:30AM SO WHILE THE CITY TALKS ABOUT THE UPKEEP OF THOSE
10:28:34AM PROPERTIES, HAVE THEY GONE TO CODE ENFORCEMENT, HAVE THEY
10:28:40AM BEEN TAKEN AWAY, WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THOSE PROPERTIES THEN
10:28:43AM COME BACK AND GIVEN TO A HUGE DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE WE ARE
10:28:46AM WATCHING.
10:28:46AM IT IS THE LITTLE THINGS THAT THE RESIDENTS OF EAST TAMPA
10:28:50AM HAVE ASKED FOR THAT COULD BE DEVELOPED ON THOSE PROPERTIES
10:28:54AM THAT WE DON'T SEE HAPPENING.
10:28:57AM SO I BEGIN TO HEAR MYSELF AS A BROKEN RECORD TO SAY WHAT
10:29:00AM ABOUT ADUs.
10:29:01AM WHAT ABOUT CONTAINER HOMES?

10:29:03AM WHAT ABOUT DUPLEXES?
10:29:05AM WHAT IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE PUT ON THE LOTS THAT WOULD BE
10:29:09AM VERY AFFORDABLE TO THE COMMUNITY?
10:29:10AM WE ARE WATCHING THAT.
10:29:12AM ITEM NUMBER 71 AND 72, WHEN I THINK ABOUT COMPANIES
10:29:20AM RECEIVING SUCH LARGE CONTRACTS, THEN I OFTEN THINK ABOUT THE
10:29:25AM OFFICE OF SECOND CHANCE.
10:29:31AM HOW IS ANY OF THOSE CONTRACTS TIED TO THOSE -- OR HAVE THEY
10:29:35AM EVEN BEEN ASKED TO LOOK AT WAYS IN WHICH SOME OF OUR
10:29:39AM RETURNING CITIZENS, PEOPLE WITH BACKGROUND CHALLENGES CAN BE
10:29:43AM BROUGHT INTO THE EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITY.
10:29:47AM ALSO, ITEM NUMBER 38, REASON WHY THE NAACP IS THE OLDEST,
10:29:53AM BOLDEST, BADDEST, DISCUSSED ORGANIZATION BECAUSE WE HAVE A
10:29:59AM PROVEN TRACK RECORD.
10:30:00AM WE HAVE A PROVEN TRACK RECORD OF DOING JUST WHAT THE
10:30:05AM COMMUNITY NEED.
10:30:06AM WE HAVE A PROVEN TRACK RECORD OF EVEN THOSE THAT LOOK LIKE
10:30:10AM US STANDING UP AGAINST THOSE TYPE OF OPPOSITIONS.
10:30:14AM I HOPE THAT YOU WOULD BE IN FULL SUPPORT OF MOVING FORWARD
10:30:19AM WITH THE CONTRACT.
10:30:21AM THE NAACP DO NOT WRITE THE CONTRACT.
10:30:25AM THE CITY DO.
10:30:26AM WE HAVE A WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY AND ALL OF
10:30:29AM THESE BACK DOOR NOISES THAT WE CONSTANTLY HEAR FROM
10:30:33AM INDIVIDUALS THAT DO NOT -- DO NOT COME TO A NAACP MEETING IS

10:30:37AM NOT EVEN A MEMBER OF THE NAACP, I HOPE YOU PUT ON SOUND
10:30:45AM EARPLUGS AGAINST THAT FOOLISHNESS AND MOVE FORWARD.
10:30:48AM THANK YOU.
10:30:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU, MS. BURTON.
10:30:50AM THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:30:52AM WITHOUT OBJECTION, WE HAD A PREVIOUS REQUEST FROM STEPHANIE
10:30:55AM POYNOR ON THE FINANCE COMMITTEE.
10:30:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO MOVED.
10:30:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:31:00AM SECOND FROM --
10:31:01AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE MOTION IS TO HEAR FROM OUR -- THE
10:31:04AM VICE-CHAIR OF THE CITIZENS BUDGET REVIEW COMMITTEE.
10:31:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CORRECT.
10:31:07AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:31:10AM OPPOSED?
10:31:10AM AYES HAVE IT.
10:31:11AM VICE-CHAIR STEPHANIE POYNOR.
10:31:15AM STATE YOUR NAME.
10:31:18AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:31:19AM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
10:31:25AM >>BILL CARLSON: ARE YOU REPRESENTING YOURSELF OR OFFICIAL
10:31:27AM OPINION --
10:31:29AM >> I'M OFFICIALLY REPRESENTING THE CITIZENS BUDGET REVIEW
10:31:32AM COMMITTEE.
10:31:32AM AS THE VICE-CHAIR.

10:31:34AM THE COMMITTEE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT CITY COUNCIL
10:31:37AM REQUEST TRANSMISSION AND PRESENTATION OR AN UPDATE ON THE
10:31:42AM PROGRESS ON THE FOLLOWING FEE STUDIES.
10:31:45AM ONE, LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE STUDY.
10:31:47AM TWO, CONSTRUCTION SERVICES FEE STUDY.
10:31:49AM THREE, MOBILITY FEE STUDY.
10:31:52AM WE REQUEST THIS OF CITY COUNCIL IN ORDER TO BEGIN THE
10:31:56AM PROCESS TO UPDATE THE FEES CHARGED BY THE CITY AS SO NO
10:32:01AM LONGER SUPPLEMENT THE COST OF THESE SERVICES BY TAX DOLLARS
10:32:04AM PAID BY THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY.
10:32:06AM WHILE MANY OF THESE FEES MAY NOT BE RAISED TO THE ACTUAL
10:32:12AM COST OF THE CITY, THEY CAN BE RAISED TO ALLOW ADDITIONAL
10:32:16AM FUNDING FOR THINGS THAT CAN HELP ALL CITIZENS.
10:32:21AM STORMWATER, ROADS, ROAD REPAIRS, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND
10:32:26AM JUST FOR SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES ALONE, I WANTED TO SHOW THIS TO
10:32:29AM YOU BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE MOBILITY STUDY.
10:32:31AM FIRST OF ALL IT SAYS IN THERE THAT IN 2021, THE LEGISLATION
10:32:34AM SAYS THAT WE CAN ONLY INCREASE THE IMPACT FEE STUDY, THE
10:32:38AM IMPACT FEES BY 50% OF THE TIME, UNLESS WE HAVE AN
10:32:42AM OVERWHELMING MAJORITY AND WE HAVE TO HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
10:32:44AM I THOUGHT THAT WAS KIND OF INTERESTING.
10:32:47AM I JUST PULLED FOR SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, I'M NOT GOING TO GET
10:32:51AM DOWN AND DIRTY ABOUT THE REST OF IT.
10:32:53AM BUT JUST FOR SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES ALONE, IF WE ONLY RAISED TO
10:32:58AM THE ADJUSTMENT FOR INFLATION RATE, THIS RATE HASN'T BEEN

10:33:03AM RAISED SINCE 1989.
10:33:05AM IF WE JUST RAISED IT TO THE COST IT SHOULD BE FROM
10:33:08AM INFLATION, WE HAVE LOST OUT SINCE 2024 -- I USE THAT BECAUSE
10:33:12AM I KNOW THAT THE FIRST DRAFT OF THIS POLICY CAME OUT IN
10:33:17AM SEPTEMBER OF 2023.
10:33:19AM WE LOST $4.1 MILLION THAT WE COULD HAVE HAD FOR MOBILITY.
10:33:22AM THAT'S ONLY FOR SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES.
10:33:27AM YOU SEE WE'VE GOT THIS BEAUTIFUL LITTLE CHART HERE THAT HAS
10:33:31AM ALL THE OTHER DEVELOPMENT FEES.
10:33:34AM WHY?
10:33:35AM IT'S BEEN SAID IN THE BUDGET MEETING ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS
10:33:39AM BY HIGHER LEVEL STAFF THAT BOB BUCKHORN WAS VERY -- VERY --
10:33:46AM I'M SORRY.
10:33:46AM I GOT OFF TRACK.
10:33:48AM THIS IS WHY I WROTE A SPEECH.
10:33:51AM SORRY, I WON'T SAY ANYTHING ELSE.
10:33:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:33:54AM >> I APOLOGIZE.
10:33:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T KNOW IF I SAW I THINK MR. VASKE COME
10:34:03AM IN.
10:34:03AM >> HE'S IN THE BACK ROW.
10:34:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK: IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN UPDATE US ON
10:34:07AM VERY BRIEFLY, IF AT ALL, ABOUT THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF THESE
10:34:14AM FEE STUDIES BECAUSE WE HAVE ASKED.
10:34:16AM >> JUSTIN VASKE, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

10:34:18AM I'M NOT PREPARED TO KNOW EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE AT WITH THEM.
10:34:22AM I THINK IMMINENTLY REASONABLE FOR THE COMMITTEE THAT YOU
10:34:25AM GUYS REQUEST THIS INFORMATION.
10:34:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU'RE IN THE ROOM.
10:34:28AM I THOUGHT I WOULD ASK.
10:34:30AM I APPRECIATE IT.
10:34:31AM MS. POYNOR, THE CITIZENS BUDGET REVIEW COMMITTEE IS LOOKING
10:34:35AM FOR THIS DATA.
10:34:37AM DO THEY HAVE A REQUESTED TIMELINE FOR THE DATA?
10:34:43AM >> NO, MA'AM.
10:34:43AM IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE MOBILITY STUDY IS FINISHED.
10:34:46AM WHEN WE ASKED, WHEN WE MADE THE MOTION INITIALLY WE ASKED
10:34:50AM FOR ALL THREE STUDIES TO BE PUT FORWARD AND STAFF SAID THAT
10:34:54AM THEY MAY NOT BE COMPLETED.
10:34:55AM THEY MAY NOT ALL BE COMPLETED.
10:34:57AM BUT WE COULD AT LEAST FIND OUT WE'RE IN THE PROCESS.
10:35:00AM WE'VE HAD THE 600 PAGE FEE ASSESSMENT FOR TWO YEARS NOW.
10:35:04AM AND NOT ONE FEE IN THE CITY HAS BEEN RAISED SINCE THEN WITH
10:35:08AM THE EXCEPTION OF THE SIDEWALK FUNDS WHICH WERE ON THAT LIST.
10:35:13AM TO MY KNOWLEDGE, I DON'T THINK ANYTHING ELSE HAS BEEN
10:35:15AM RAISED.
10:35:16AM WE HAVE TO START MOVING SOMEWHERE OF STOPPING CITIZENS' TAX
10:35:21AM DOLLARS PAYING AND SUPPLEMENTING OTHER PEOPLE'S HOMES.
10:35:26AM I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY FOR SOMEBODY ELSE'S NEW HOUSE.
10:35:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT SOUNDS LIKE SOMEONE SHOULD TAKE --

10:35:35AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'LL WORK ON THIS TO MAKE A MOTION.
10:35:40AM I SUPPOSE -- CHAIR, DO YOU MIND IF I DO IT NOW?
10:35:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU WANT TO WORK ON IT, NEW BUSINESS --
10:35:48AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T THINK WE'LL HAVE A BREAK BEFORE NEW
10:35:50AM BUSINESS.
10:35:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU'RE READY TO DO IT?
10:35:52AM ANYBODY OBJECT?
10:35:55AM WITHOUT OBJECTION, GO.
10:35:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS IS FROM THE CITIZENS BUDGET REVIEW
10:35:59AM COMMITTEE.
10:36:00AM I AGREE AND I BELIEVE -- I'LL FIND OUT IF OTHERS DO AS WELL.
10:36:03AM WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST.
10:36:06AM SO THE COMMITTEE -- ACTUALLY, YEAH.
10:36:08AM LET ME HOLD OFF ON IT SO I CAN HAVE KELLY REACH OUT.
10:36:12AM THERE SHE IS.
10:36:13AM SHE KNOWS ME BETTER THAN I KNOW MYSELF.
10:36:17AM WE'LL WORK ON SOME TIMING AND I'LL COME BACK AT THE END OF
10:36:21AM -- AT NEW BUSINESS TO FIND OUT A TIME FRAME FOR GETTING
10:36:26AM THESE REPORTS.
10:36:26AM THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
10:36:28AM I DO HAVE ONE OTHER COMMENT THAT I WOULD LIKE YOU TO BRING
10:36:30AM BACK TO THE COMMITTEE ITSELF.
10:36:32AM IT SOUNDS LIKE -- MAYBE IT MIGHT BE NICE FROM TIME TO TIME
10:36:38AM IF YOU DO COME OR IF SOMEONE, EITHER MR. SCAGLIONE OR
10:36:43AM YOURSELF, BECAUSE I KNOW HE'S CHAIR, TO COME AND SPEAK

10:36:48AM OCCASIONALLY ON THE UPDATES, MAYBE A FIVE-MINUTE UPDATE ON
10:36:53AM WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND HOW WE CAN ALL HELP.
10:36:55AM I KNOW YOU CAN TALK TO EACH OF US INDIVIDUALLY BECAUSE YOU
10:36:58AM ARE MY APPOINTEE, SO APPOINTEES CAN TALK INDIVIDUALLY.
10:37:03AM MAYBE IT MIGHT BE NICE TO HEAR OVERALL FROM TIME TO TIME
10:37:06AM WHEN YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SHARE WITH US.
10:37:09AM HATE TO MAKE IT A MONTHLY THING AND THEN WASTE TIME, BUT AS
10:37:13AM NEEDED, LET US KNOW SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE THIS TIME.
10:37:16AM I THINK THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA.
10:37:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. SHELBY.
10:37:23AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, PLEASE.
10:37:24AM >> I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO INVITE ALL OF YOU TO COME TO THE
10:37:27AM BUDGET COMMITTEE MEETINGS, BECAUSE WE GET SUPER IN-DEPTH
10:37:32AM PRESENTATIONS FROM THE DEPARTMENTS.
10:37:36AM WE'LL SIT THERE FOR TWO OR THREE HOURS GETTING WHAT YOU GUYS
10:37:39AM ARE GETTING IN A CONDENSED VERSION IN 15, 20 MINUTES, WE'RE
10:37:43AM GETTING FOR TWO OR THREE HOURS AND IT WILL MAKE THE HAIR
10:37:47AM STAND UP ON THE BACK OF YOUR NECK TO SEE WHAT WE'RE GETTING
10:37:50AM FROM STAFF.
10:37:50AM THEY REALLY DO A GREAT JOB PRESENTING TO US.
10:37:53AM I'M SURE WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT AT THE NEXT
10:37:56AM MEETING, DURING A PERIODIC PRESENTATION.
10:37:59AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: JUST A REMINDER TO COUNCIL AND TO THE
10:38:02AM PUBLIC, YOUR COMMITTEE IS MEETING TOMORROW AT 3:00, WHICH IS
10:38:06AM THE TIME SET UP BECAUSE IT IS THE LAST OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU

10:38:10AM TO MEET BEFORE THE BUDGET PRESENTATION NEXT WEDNESDAY.
10:38:14AM SO THEY ARE MEETING AT 3:00 TOMORROW IN THE SISTER CITIES
10:38:18AM ROOM.
10:38:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
10:38:19AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:38:22AM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE STATUS OF THESE
10:38:24AM REPORTS, BUT SOME REPORTS END UP TAKING YEARS EVEN FOR US TO
10:38:27AM GET BACK.
10:38:28AM HAD WE HAD DRAFT VERSIONS EARLIER, WE COULD HAVE MADE
10:38:32AM DECISIONS TO INTERVENE.
10:38:33AM AN EXAMPLE IS THE MOBILITY STUDY THAT TOOK LIKE FOUR YEARS.
10:38:37AM WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS IN YOUR MOTION THAT YOU ASK FOR
10:38:41AM DRAFTS OF WHATEVER REPORTS ARE IN PARTIAL COMPLETION BECAUSE
10:38:44AM THERE MAY BE ANALYSIS OR CONCLUSIONS THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL
10:38:49AM AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROJECT PROCESS AND LOOKING AT
10:38:52AM THIS.
10:38:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD.
10:38:55AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:38:56AM WE'LL GO TO THE CONSENT AGENDA, PUBLIC SAFETY.
10:39:02AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:39:03AM ITEMS 3-12.
10:39:04AM >>LUIS VIERA: I MOVE SAID ITEMS, 3-12.
10:39:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:39:08AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:39:09AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

10:39:11AM OPPOSED?
10:39:11AM THE AYES HAVE IT.
10:39:12AM NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY AFFAIRS COMMITTEE, COUNCILWOMAN
10:39:14AM HURTAK.
10:39:16AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
10:39:16AM I WANTED TO ADDRESS 13 THROUGH 16 OR 17 JUST TO SAY THAT
10:39:23AM THERE IS NO LAND BEING TAKEN IN ANY OF THESE.
10:39:26AM THESE ARE SIMPLY LIENS PLACED ON PROPERTIES FOR PEOPLE WHO
10:39:29AM ARE NOT DOING THE WORK THAT THEY NEEDED TO HAVE DONE.
10:39:31AM THERE IS NO TAKING OF ANY LAND.
10:39:33AM I WANTED TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD THAT.
10:39:36AM I MOVE ITEMS 13 THROUGH 25.
10:39:39AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
10:39:40AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:39:41AM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:39:43AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:39:45AM OPPOSED?
10:39:45AM THE AYES HAVE IT.
10:39:46AM INFRASTRUCTURE COMMITTEE, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:39:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE ITEMS 26 THROUGH 34.
10:39:52AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:39:54AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:39:55AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:39:57AM OPPOSED?
10:39:57AM THE AYES HAVE IT.

10:39:58AM FINANCE COMMITTEE, COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:40:01AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MOVE 35 THROUGH 39.
10:40:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:40:05AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:40:06AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:40:07AM OPPOSED?
10:40:09AM AYES HAVE IT.
10:40:12AM DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY COMMITTEE, COUNCILMAN
10:40:15AM CARLSON, 40 THROUGH 47.
10:40:17AM >>BILL CARLSON: SO MOVED.
10:40:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:40:20AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
10:40:21AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:40:23AM AYES HAVE IT.
10:40:24AM I NEED A MOTION TO SET PUBLIC HEARINGS.
10:40:27AM >> SET 48 AND 49 FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
10:40:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:40:30AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:40:32AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:40:34AM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
10:40:35AM MR. SHELBY, YOU HAD SOMETHING TO SAY.
10:40:38AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: YES, BY MY COUNT, WITH REGARD TO THE ITEMS
10:40:42AM ON STAFF REPORTS, WITHOUT STAFF, I HAVE ITEMS 70, 71, 72,
10:40:47AM 73, I BELIEVE, IF THAT'S CORRECT, YOU CAN MOVE THOSE.
10:40:50AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO MOVED, 71, 72, 73 AND 75.

10:41:01AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: I HAVE 70 TO 73.
10:41:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THOUGHT WE AGREED -- COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAD
10:41:07AM WANTED TO APPROVE 75.
10:41:10AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: RECEIVE AND FILE.
10:41:12AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S WHAT I MEANT.
10:41:16AM ITEM 70 THROUGH 73, APPROVE THE RESOLUTIONS.
10:41:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:41:21AM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:41:23AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:41:24AM OPPOSED?
10:41:24AM THE AYES HAVE IT.
10:41:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE 75, 78, 79, 80, 81.
10:41:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE DID THE WRITTEN ONES.
10:41:40AM WE JUST NEED 75.
10:41:41AM MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:41:42AM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO RECEIVE AND FILE 75.
10:41:47AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
10:41:49AM OPPOSED?
10:41:49AM AYES HAVE IT.
10:41:50AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE TO OPEN THE 10 A.M. PUBLIC HEARINGS.
10:41:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OPEN 10 A.M. --
10:41:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND 10:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS.
10:42:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION TO OPEN THE 10 AND 10:30
10:42:07AM PUBLIC HEARINGS.
10:42:07AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

10:42:08AM OPPOSED?
10:42:09AM THE AYES HAVE IT.
10:42:10AM ITEM NUMBER 50 IS NON-QUASI-JUDICIAL.
10:42:16AM DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FROM STAFF?
10:42:17AM WE CAN HEAR YOU.
10:42:27AM WE CAN'T SEE YOU.
10:42:28AM THERE YOU ARE AND NOW YOU ARE GONE.
10:42:39AM PEOPLE COME AND GO SO QUICKLY AROUND HERE.
10:42:41AM >> CAN YOU SEE ME NOW?
10:42:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD MORNING.
10:42:44AM WE CAN HEAR YOU.
10:42:45AM GO AHEAD.
10:42:46AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:42:47AM EMILY PHELAN, PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF.
10:42:49AM ITEM 50 IS TA/CPA 25-01 LOCATED AT 3606 WEST BAY TO BAY
10:42:56AM BOULEVARD.
10:42:56AM THE REQUEST WAS TO GO FROM RESIDENTIAL 10 TO RESIDENTIAL 20.
10:43:01AM YOU VOTED ON THIS ON YOUR JULY 31st, 2025 MEETING.
10:43:05AM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:43:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
10:43:10AM NO QUESTIONS.
10:43:11AM IS THE APPLICANT IN THE AUDIENCE TO SPEAK TO THE ITEM?
10:43:17AM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
10:43:20AM MOTION TO CLOSE?
10:43:21AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

10:43:23AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:43:24AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THIS, PLEASE?
10:43:27AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
10:43:32AM OPPOSED?
10:43:32AM AYES HAVE IT.
10:43:33AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:43:35AM >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE ITEMS 50, FILE TA/CPA 25-01, ORDINANCE
10:43:40AM BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN
10:43:43AM ORDINANCE AMENDING THE TAMPA COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, FUTURE LAND
10:43:45AM USE ELEMENT, FUTURE LAND USE MAP, FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED
10:43:48AM AT 3606 WEST BAY TO BAY BOULEVARD FROM RESIDENTIAL 10, R-10,
10:43:53AM TO RESIDENTIAL 20, R-20, PROVIDING FOR REPEAL OF ALL
10:43:56AM ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY,
10:43:59AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:43:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:44:02AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:44:03AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:44:10AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED WITH MIRANDA VOTING NO AND VIERA
10:44:12AM ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:44:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
10:44:14AM THE REST OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE QUASI-JUDICIAL AND
10:44:17AM REQUIRE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO
10:44:19AM THESE ITEMS TO BE SWORN IN.
10:44:22AM IF YOU ARE HERE TO TESTIFY ON ANY OF THE FOLLOWING HEARINGS,
10:44:26AM PLEASE STAND, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND BE SWORN IN BY THE

10:44:29AM CLERK.
10:44:30AM [OATH ADMINISTERED]
10:44:39AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:44:39AM ITEM 51, MR. THOMAS.
10:44:42AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:44:43AM SAM THOMAS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:44:45AM AGENDA ITEM 51, REZ 25-37.
10:44:48AM THE ITEM IS A REQUEST TO REZONE THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 4911
10:44:52AM EAST 10th AVENUE.
10:44:53AM REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY 16 TO
10:44:55AM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY 24.
10:44:57AM I'M AVAILABLE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:44:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
10:45:00AM IS THERE AN APPLICANT?
10:45:04AM ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WISHING TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
10:45:09AM WE HAVE SOMEBODY ONLINE.
10:45:14AM APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE.
10:45:20AM VERY GOOD.
10:45:21AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:45:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD?
10:45:25AM >> NO, I'M NOT.
10:45:26AM I'M JUST HERE TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:45:30AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: VERY GOOD.
10:45:31AM DOES COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT?
10:45:32AM ONCE AGAIN, ANYBODY FROM THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO

10:45:35AM THIS ITEM?
10:45:36AM >> MOVE TO CLOSE.
10:45:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN
10:45:39AM MIRANDA.
10:45:40AM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:45:44AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE?
10:45:46AM OPPOSED?
10:45:47AM AYES HAVE IT.
10:45:48AM IT'S CLOSED.
10:45:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK: ITEM 51, FILE REZ 25-37, AN ORDINANCE BEING
10:45:55AM PRESENTED FOR SECOND READING AND ADOPTION, AN ORDINANCE
10:45:57AM REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF 4911 EAST
10:46:00AM 10th AVENUE, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE
10:46:03AM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1, FROM ZONING DISTRICT
10:46:05AM CLASSIFICATIONS RM-16 (RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY) TO RM-24
10:46:11AM (RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY); PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:46:14AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:46:16AM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:46:17AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:46:22AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
10:46:24AM ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:46:26AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
10:46:26AM GOING ON TO 52.
10:46:32AM STAFF?
10:46:34AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: SAM THOMAS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.

10:46:36AM AGENDA ITEM 52 IS REZ 25-43.
10:46:39AM THE ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
10:46:42AM 4904 WEST PAUL AVENUE AND FOLIO NUMBER 131,914.00000, THE
10:46:49AM REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM COMMERCIAL INTENSIVE TO PLANNED
10:46:51AM DEVELOPMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY ATTACHED.
10:46:54AM REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN
10:46:57AM SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
10:46:58AM REVISIONS COMPLETED INCLUDED THE COUNCIL DIRECTED REVISIONS
10:47:01AM OF UPDATING THE SCHEMATIC TO MATCH COLORIZED RENDERINGS
10:47:06AM SUBMITTED DURING PUBLIC HEARING, INCLUDING THE COLORIZED
10:47:08AM RENDERINGS IN SITE PLAN PACKAGE AND A NOTE TO THE SITE PLAN
10:47:11AM TO MAKE THE SCHEMATIC ELEVATIONS BINDING.
10:47:14AM I'M AVAILABLE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:47:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
10:47:16AM APPLICANT?
10:47:18AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
10:47:20AM STEVE MICHELINI, REPRESENTING THE PETITIONER.
10:47:22AM BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANYTHING YOU MIGHT ASK ME ABOUT THIS.
10:47:29AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE MODIFICATIONS AS
10:47:32AM REQUESTED BY COUNCIL.
10:47:33AM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THE ITEM?
10:47:36AM MOTION TO CLOSE?
10:47:36AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECOND COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:47:40AM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
10:47:41AM OPPOSED?

10:47:41AM AYES HAVE IT.
10:47:43AM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:47:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
10:47:46AM READING AND ADOPTION, ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
10:47:48AM GENERAL VICINITY OF 4904 WEST PAUL AVENUE AND FOLIO
10:47:51AM 131914-0000, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE
10:47:57AM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT
10:47:59AM CLASSIFICATION CI MANAGERS INTENSIVE TO PD PLANNED
10:48:02AM DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, ATTACHED, PROVIDING
10:48:05AM AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:48:05AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM MANISCALCO.
10:48:07AM SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
10:48:08AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:48:12AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
10:48:17AM ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:48:17AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
10:48:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
10:48:19AM ITEM 53.
10:48:20AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: AGENDA ITEM 53 IS REZ 25-46.
10:48:26AM REZONING REQUEST FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1901 WEST PLATT
10:48:28AM STREET, 211 AND 213 SOUTH FREMONT AVENUE.
10:48:33AM REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM COMMERCIAL GENERAL AND RESIDENTIAL
10:48:38AM MULTIFAMILY 16 TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL,
10:48:40AM SINGLE-FAMILY, ATTACHED.
10:48:41AM REVISIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS HAVE BEEN

10:48:45AM SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
10:48:46AM REVISIONS COMPLETED INCLUDING THE COUNCIL DIRECTED REVISIONS
10:48:49AM OF REMOVING 9 BY 18 AND SITE DATA TABLE FOR PARKING,
10:48:53AM UPDATING SETBACKS TO ENSURE FIRST FLOOR IS STEPPED BACK AND
10:48:55AM ADDING A NOTE TO THE SITE PLAN TO MAKE THE SCHEMATIC
10:48:58AM ELEVATIONS BINDING.
10:48:59AM I'M AVAILABLE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.
10:49:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
10:49:02AM IS THERE AN APPLICANT?
10:49:03AM ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
10:49:09AM ITEM 53 MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:49:12AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:49:13AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:49:16AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
10:49:18AM FILE 53, REZ 25-46, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
10:49:22AM READING AND ADOPTION.
10:49:23AM AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
10:49:25AM 1901 WEST PLATT STREET AND 211 AND 213 SOUTH FREMONT AVENUE
10:49:30AM IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, AND MORE PARTICULARLY
10:49:32AM DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION
10:49:35AM CG COMMERCIAL GENERAL AND RM-16 RESIDENTIAL, MULTIFAMILY, TO
10:49:39AM PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY,
10:49:41AM ATTACHED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:49:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:49:48AM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA AND SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN

10:49:51AM HURTAK.
10:49:51AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:49:55AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
10:49:57AM ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:50:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
10:50:00AM ITEM 54.
10:50:01AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: SAM THOMAS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:50:03AM AGENDA ITEM 54 IS REZ-25-52.
10:50:07AM THE ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT
10:50:10AM 2801 NORTH TAMPA STREET.
10:50:12AM THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM COMMERCIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO
10:50:14AM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, SEMI
10:50:17AM DETACHED AND ATTACHED.
10:50:18AM REVISIONS COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS SUBMITTED TO THE
10:50:21AM CLERK'S OFFICE.
10:50:22AM I'M AVAILABLE IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS.
10:50:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS?
10:50:25AM APPLICANT?
10:50:26AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: STEVE MICHELINI REPRESENTING THE
10:50:28AM PETITIONER.
10:50:29AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING
10:50:31AM YOUR APPROVAL.
10:50:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
10:50:32AM ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
10:50:35AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.

10:50:36AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:50:38AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:50:39AM OPPOSED?
10:50:39AM THE AYES HAVE IT.
10:50:41AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:50:42AM >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE ITEM 54.
10:50:45AM FILE NUMBER REZ-25-52, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
10:50:50AM READING AND ADOPTION, ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE
10:50:52AM GENERAL VICINITY OF 2801 NORTH TAMPA STREET IN THE CITY OF
10:50:55AM TAMPA, FLORIDA AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1
10:50:58AM FROM ZONING DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION CN, COMMERCIAL
10:51:01AM NEIGHBORHOOD, TO PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL,
10:51:03AM SINGLE-FAMILY, ATTACHED AND SEMI DETACHED, PROVIDING AN
10:51:07AM EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:51:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:51:10AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:51:12AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:51:16AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
10:51:18AM ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:51:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ITEM NUMBER 55.
10:51:23AM >>SAMUEL THOMAS: SAM THOMAS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION.
10:51:25AM AGENDA ITEM 55 IS REZ-25-55, THE ITEM IS A REZONING REQUEST
10:51:30AM FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2318 WEST NORTH B STREET.
10:51:33AM THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE FROM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY 16 TO
10:51:36AM PLANNED DEVELOPMENT FOR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE-FAMILY SEMI

10:51:39AM DETACHED.
10:51:40AM REVISIONS COMPLETED AND CERTIFIED PLANS SUBMITTED TO THE
10:51:43AM CLERK'S OFFICE.
10:51:44AM I'M AVAILABLE IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS.
10:51:45AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANY QUESTIONS?
10:51:46AM >>STEVE MICHELINI: STEVE MICHELINI REPRESENTING THE
10:51:49AM PETITIONER.
10:51:49AM RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING YOUR APPROVAL.
10:51:51AM I SHOULD NOTE THAT THE RESOLUTION REGARDING THE BONUS.
10:51:54AM THANK YOU.
10:51:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS?
10:51:59AM ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM 55?
10:52:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN
10:52:04AM MANISCALCO.
10:52:05AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:52:06AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK, WOULD YOU READ -- ALL THOSE IN FAVOR,
10:52:11AM AYE.
10:52:12AM OPPOSED, AYES HAVE IT.
10:52:13AM THANK YOU.
10:52:14AM IT IS CLOSED.
10:52:17AM READ THE RESOLUTION --
10:52:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'LL READ THE ORDINANCE AND THEN DO THE
10:52:20AM RESOLUTION, YES.
10:52:21AM NUMBER 55, FILE REZ 25-55, ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR
10:52:25AM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION.

10:52:27AM AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF
10:52:30AM 2318 WEST NORTH B STREET, IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA AND
10:52:35AM MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED IN SECTION 1 FROM ZONING
10:52:38AM DISTRICT CLASSIFICATION, RM 16, RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY, TO
10:52:41AM PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE-FAMILY, SEMI
10:52:46AM DETACHED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
10:52:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:52:49AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:52:50AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:52:56AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
10:52:58AM ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:52:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NOW I MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
10:53:01AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:53:03AM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:53:05AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:53:07AM OPPOSED?
10:53:07AM THE AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
10:53:09AM THANK YOU.
10:53:09AM ITEM NUMBER 56.
10:53:17AM >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN: LEO DEBARDELEBEN, DEVELOPMENT
10:53:20AM COORDINATION.
10:53:20AM CAN YOU SEE ME.
10:53:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES, WE'VE GOT YOU.
10:53:23AM >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN: I'VE BEEN SWORN.
10:53:24AM ITEM 56 IS AB2-25-04, FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1301 WEST

10:53:29AM CASS STREET.
10:53:30AM THE REQUEST IS FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE SALES, BAR/LOUNGE
10:53:36AM CLASSIFICATION, BEER AND WINE, CONSUMPTION ON PREMISES AND
10:53:38AM PACKAGE SALES OFF-PREMISES CONSUMPTION.
10:53:40AM SITE PLAN MODIFICATIONS WERE REQUIRED TO BE MADE BETWEEN
10:53:43AM FIRST AND SECOND READINGS.
10:53:44AM THOSE CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE.
10:53:47AM THE PLANS HAVE BEEN CERTIFIED, AND A COPY HAS BEEN PROVIDED
10:53:47AM TO THE CLERK.
10:53:48AM I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
10:53:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
10:53:55AM >> APPLICANT.
10:53:56AM I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF THERE ARE ANY.
10:53:58AM I'M REQUESTING APPROVAL.
10:53:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK
10:54:02AM TO ITEM 56?
10:54:03AM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:54:05AM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:54:07AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:54:09AM OPPOSED?
10:54:09AM AYES HAVE IT.
10:54:14AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR SECOND
10:54:15AM READING AND ADOPTION, ORDINANCE APPROVING A SPECIAL USE
10:54:18AM PERMIT SU-2 FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES, BAR/LOUNGE, CONSUMPTION
10:54:23AM ON PREMISES AND PACKAGE SALES/OFF PREMISES CONSUMPTIONS AND

10:54:27AM MAKING LAWFUL THE SALE OF BEER AND WINE AT OR FROM THAT
10:54:30AM CERTAIN LOT, PLOT OR TRACT OF LAND, LOCATED AT 1301 WEST
10:54:34AM CASS STREET, TAMPA, FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED
10:54:34AM IN SECTION 2, PROVIDING THAT ALL ORDINANCES OR PARTS OF
10:54:34AM ORDINANCES IN CONFLICT ARE REPEALED, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE
10:54:35AM DATE.
10:54:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN
10:54:37AM MANISCALCO.
10:54:37AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:54:39AM PLEASE RECORD YOUR VOTE.
10:54:44AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH VIERA BEING
10:54:46AM ABSENT AT VOTE.
10:54:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A SUBSTITUTE RESOLUTION FOR ITEM
10:54:50AM 57.
10:54:53AM STAFF.
10:54:53AM >>LEO DEBARDELEBEN: LEO DEBARDELEBEN AGAIN WITH DEVELOPMENT
10:54:58AM COORDINATION.
10:54:58AM ITEM 57 IS AB 2-25-11.
10:55:02AM STAFF IS ACTUALLY GOING TO RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE
10:55:06AM SECOND READING OF THIS ITEM BE CONTINUED TO THE NEXT REGULAR
10:55:10AM CITY COUNCIL SESSION, WHICH WOULD BE SEPTEMBER 4, 2025.
10:55:14AM AN ISSUE WITH THE SITE PLAN WAS RECENTLY IDENTIFIED AND
10:55:17AM REQUIRES CORRECTION PRIOR TO FURTHER CONSIDERATION.
10:55:21AM THE APPLICANT WAS ORIGINALLY PLANNING TO PARTICIPATE
10:55:25AM REMOTELY.

10:55:26AM HOWEVER I HAVE COMMUNICATED THIS REQUEST WITH THE APPLICANT
10:55:28AM AND HE IS IN AGREEMENT WITH THE CONTINUANCE.
10:55:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I MOVE THAT WE CONTINUE FILE AB 2-25-11 TO
10:55:39AM THE SEPTEMBER 4th, 2025, MEETING AT 10:30 -- 10:00 A.M. AT
10:55:47AM OLD CITY HALL, 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, TAMPA, FLORIDA,
10:55:54AM 33602, THIRD FLOOR.
10:55:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE FROM
10:55:59AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:55:59AM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
10:56:01AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:56:03AM OPPOSED.
10:56:04AM THE AYES HAVE IT.
10:56:05AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:56:05AM WE ARE MOVING ON TO 10:30 A.M. PETITIONS.
10:56:16AM >>JUSTIN VASKE: JUSTIN VASKE, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
10:56:20AM HERE FOR 58, 59, 60.
10:56:22AM THE RESOLUTIONS PURSUANT TO THESE ITEMS MUST BE APPROVED
10:56:25AM DURING THE HEARING.
10:56:26AM FIRST OF ALL, ITEM 58, REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION
10:56:33AM TO ADOPT THE NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT ROLL FOR NON-AD
10:56:36AM VALOREM ASSESSMENT WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN YBOR CITY AREA OF THE
10:56:40AM CITY OF TAMPA FOR THE PURPOSE OF PAYING A PORTION OF THE
10:56:42AM OPERATING COST OF THE TAMPA, YBOR HISTORIC ELECTRIC
10:56:47AM STREETCAR PROJECT DURING FISCAL YEAR 2026.
10:56:50AM THERE HAS BEEN NO INCREASE IN THE RATE OR EXPANSION OF THE

10:56:55AM DISTRICT.
10:56:56AM SO IT'S THE SAME AS IT HAS BEEN.
10:56:58AM THE CITY HAS RECEIVED WRITTEN OBJECTIONS AND THOSE HAVE BEEN
10:57:03AM FILED WITH THE CITY CLERK.
10:57:04AM MICHAEL ENGLISH IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
10:57:07AM AND THAT IS ALL.
10:57:08AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
10:57:08AM DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON ITEM 58?
10:57:12AM >>JUSTIN VASKE: WE HAVE TO OPEN THE HEARING AND APPROVE --
10:57:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE PREVIOUSLY OPENED ALL THE HEARINGS.
10:57:17AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE RECORD -- MARTIN
10:57:23AM SHELBY, CITY COUNCIL ATTORNEY.
10:57:24AM FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE RECORD, WE HAVE ALREADY OPENED IT.
10:57:28AM WOULD YOU LIKE US TO OPEN INDIVIDUALLY?
10:57:31AM >>JUSTIN VASKE: YES.
10:57:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MOTION TO OPEN NUMBER 58.
10:57:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM
10:57:37AM 58 FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
10:57:38AM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:57:39AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
10:57:41AM OPPOSED?
10:57:41AM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
10:57:42AM ITEM 58.
10:57:45AM >> WE HAVE MICHAEL ENGLISH HERE.
10:57:47AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD?

10:57:53AM >> SPENT THE MORNING HERE, MIGHT AS WELL SAY HELLO.
10:57:55AM MICHAEL ENGLISH.
10:57:56AM CHAIR OF THE STREETCAR BOARD.
10:57:58AM ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO SEE YOU ALL.
10:57:59AM WE WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT FOR THE SPECIAL
10:58:02AM ASSESSMENT.
10:58:04AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HAVEN'T YOU BEEN A MEMBER SINCE THE
10:58:06AM BEGINNING?
10:58:06AM A MEMBER OF THE DISTRICT FOR THE STREETCAR AND ALL THAT?
10:58:12AM >> I'VE BEEN THE MEMBER AND CHAIRMAN SINCE WE OPENED -- YEAR
10:58:15AM BEFORE WE OPENED THE STREETCAR IN 2002.
10:58:18AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICES.
10:58:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
10:58:22AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, NO.
10:58:23AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
10:58:24AM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND LEADERSHIP ON
10:58:26AM THIS.
10:58:27AM MR. VASKE, THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT IT IS NOT AN INCREASE.
10:58:31AM BUT COULD YOU ON EACH OF THESE MAYBE JUST EXPRESS NOT ONLY
10:58:36AM THAT THERE IS NOT AN INCREASE, BUT ALSO MAYBE HOW LONG THEY
10:58:39AM HAVE BEEN AROUND AND THAT THEY ARE NOT NEW.
10:58:41AM EVERY YEAR WE GET E-MAILS FROM PEOPLE THINKING IT IS A NEW
10:58:44AM TAX OR A NEW FEE --
10:58:47AM >> ARE YOU ASKING ME THAT QUESTION?
10:58:49AM >>BILL CARLSON: NO, MR. VASKE.

10:58:51AM JUST SO THE PUBLIC KNOWS.
10:58:52AM SOME PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE NEW OR INCREASES.
10:58:55AM STATE THAT FOR THE RECORD, IF YOU DON'T MIND, FOR EACH OF
10:58:58AM THESE.
10:58:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK
10:59:01AM TO ITEM 58?
10:59:02AM WE HAVE SOMEBODY COMING UP.
10:59:10AM SCOOT ASIDE.
10:59:11AM YOU CAN SIT DOWN NOW.
10:59:13AM THANK YOU.
10:59:13AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
10:59:14AM MY NAME IS COREL CASIANOV.
10:59:17AM I AM A PROPERTY OWNER IN DOWNTOWN TAMPA.
10:59:20AM I'M HERE TO OBJECT THIS PROPOSED NON-AD VALOREM.
10:59:25AM ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE NOTICED IS THAT THERE ARE PROVEN
10:59:29AM REVENUE MODELS FOR STREETCARS ALL ACROSS THE UNITED STATES.
10:59:33AM FOR EXAMPLE, SAN FRANCISCO TAKES IN $30 MILLION ANNUALLY.
10:59:39AM AND THAT'S A $3 FARE FOR THE HISTORIC STREETCAR.
10:59:42AM NEW ORLEANS, 10 MILLION ANNUAL, 1.25 PER RIDE.
10:59:47AM PORTLAND, 1 MILLION IN FARES REVENUE, 2.50 FOR TWO AND A
10:59:50AM HALF HOURS.
10:59:51AM WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THE COUNCIL TO LOOK AT ARE
10:59:56AM ALTERNATIVE SOLUTIONS TO THIS VERSUS TAXING PEOPLE IN
10:59:59AM DOWNTOWN AND YBOR.
11:00:03AM I THINK THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO IMPLEMENT A REASONABLE

11:00:05AM FARE STRUCTURE AND THEN YOU CAN KEEP IT FREE FOR FLORIDA
11:00:08AM RESIDENTS AS WE HAVE A LOT OF TOURISTS THAT COME INTO TOWN.
11:00:12AM ANOTHER OPTION WOULD BE TO CREATE A DIFFERENT PRICING MODEL
11:00:17AM OR JUST SEEK ALTERNATIVE GRANTS OR PUBLIC SERVICE OFFERINGS.
11:00:21AM THANKS.
11:00:21AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:00:22AM MR. VASKE, CLARIFICATION WHICH PROPERTIES ARE ACTUALLY
11:00:26AM COVERED BY THIS?
11:00:29AM >> IT'S IN THE DOWNTOWN AND YBOR HISTORIC DISTRICT.
11:00:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE TYPES OF PROPERTIES THAT ARE COVERED
11:00:34AM BY THE NON-AD VALOREM?
11:00:35AM >>JUSTIN VASKE: YEAH.
11:00:37AM IT WOULD BE --
11:00:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MORRIS MAY HAVE MORE INFORMATION.
11:00:44AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THE ASSESSMENT APPLIES TO COMMERCIAL
11:00:47AM PROPERTY.
11:00:47AM AT THIS POINT IN TIME, HOMESTEADED RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY IS
11:00:50AM NOT SUBJECT TO THE ASSESSMENT.
11:00:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT WAS THE CLARIFICATION.
11:00:52AM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE AWARE -- MORRIS MASSEY, WOULD YOU
11:00:55AM STATE YOUR NAME?
11:00:57AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: MORRIS MASSEY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:01:00AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: FOR THE PURPOSES OF PUBLIC COMMENT, AD
11:01:02AM VALOREM DOES NOT AFFECT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.
11:01:06AM ONLY COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.

11:01:08AM JUST FYI.
11:01:09AM RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY IS NOT COVERED UNDER THIS PARTICULAR
11:01:12AM ITEM.
11:01:14AM >> THAT'S CORRECT.
11:01:18AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT COMPLETES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
11:01:20AM ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
11:01:26AM >> I WOULD LIKE TO GET CLARIFICATION.
11:01:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SURE.
11:01:28AM GO AHEAD.
11:01:30AM >> YOU'RE SAYING THAT THIS -- SORRY.
11:01:34AM MY NAME IS COREL, PROPERTY OWNER IN DOWNTOWN.
11:01:38AM YOU'RE SAYING THIS ASSESSMENT AND TAX ESSENTIALLY DOESN'T
11:01:41AM AFFECT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY OWNERS?
11:01:42AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CORRECT.
11:01:43AM UNDER THE CURRENT OPERATION OF THE STREETCAR WHEN THIS WAS
11:01:47AM FIRST CREATED IT ONLY APPLIED TO COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.
11:01:50AM THIS IS JUST A CONTINUATION OF WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING SINCE
11:01:52AM THE BEGINNING OF THE STREETCAR.
11:01:54AM IT DOES NOT APPLY TO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
11:01:57AM >> EVEN RENTAL PROPERTIES.
11:01:59AM >> I RECEIVED A NOTICE WHICH SAYS WE'LL BE RECEIVING AN
11:02:02AM EXTRA TAX RELATED TO THIS.
11:02:04AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LET ME GET CLARIFICATION ON THAT.
11:02:06AM I'M NOT SURE.
11:02:07AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: IF IT'S NOT HOMESTEADED, IT MAY APPLY TO

11:02:10AM THAT BECAUSE IT IS BEING USED FOR A KIND OF COMMERCIAL
11:02:13AM PURPOSE.
11:02:15AM >> THAT'S INTERESTING, RIGHT?
11:02:16AM BECAUSE I RENT OUT A CONDO DOWNTOWN.
11:02:19AM THIS CONDO THAT'S BEING AFFECTED.
11:02:21AM AND IT'S A LONG-TERM RENTAL.
11:02:23AM IT'S NOT A SHORT-TERM AirBnB.
11:02:27AM THAT'S WHY I THINK IT'S UNFAIR FOR FOLKS IN MY SITUATION TO
11:02:30AM PAY THIS IF IT IS STATED AS A COMMERCIAL TAX.
11:02:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE RIGHT
11:02:36AM INFORMATION OUT THERE.
11:02:38AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:02:38AM WE'RE NOT GOING TO CLOSE THIS.
11:02:43AM WE NEED SOMEBODY TO READ THE RESOLUTION.
11:02:49AM >>BILL CARLSON: MR. VASKE OR MR. MORRIS, COULD ONE OF YOU
11:02:52AM SAY APPROXIMATELY HOW LONG THIS FEE HAS BEEN AROUND?
11:02:56AM >> IT'S BEEN AROUND SINCE 2000, THE YEAR 2000.
11:03:02AM >>BILL CARLSON: WE'RE GOING TO BE IN THE 26th YEAR OF IT
11:03:04AM OR 25th YEAR OF IT.
11:03:06AM >> YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
11:03:09AM >>BILL CARLSON: MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
11:03:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON
11:03:12AM TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
11:03:13AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:03:15AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

11:03:16AM OPPOSED?
11:03:16AM AYES HAVE IT.
11:03:17AM MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
11:03:20AM MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
11:03:21AM NOW A MOTION TO REOPEN -- WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE
11:03:29AM PUBLIC HEARING.
11:03:29AM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
11:03:31AM AYES HAVE IT.
11:03:32AM MOTION TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR 59.
11:03:34AM MOTION TO REOPEN PUBLIC HEARING FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:03:37AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:03:39AM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
11:03:40AM AYES HAVE IT.
11:03:42AM >>JUSTIN VASKE: JUSTIN VASKE, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:03:45AM ITEM 59 ON THE AGENDA, WE'RE REQUESTING THE APPROVAL OF A
11:03:49AM RESOLUTION TO ADOPT THE NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT ROLL FOR
11:03:52AM NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT WITHIN THE WESTSHORE BUSINESS
11:03:55AM DISTRICT OF THE CITY OF TAMPA FOR THE PURPOSE OF PAYING FOR
11:03:58AM THE PROVISION OF CERTAIN ENHANCED SERVICES AND IMPROVEMENTS
11:04:02AM IN THE SAID AREA DURING THE 2026 FISCAL YEAR, INCLUDING
11:04:06AM TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS, MARKETING, SECURITY SERVICES
11:04:10AM FOR SAID AREA.
11:04:11AM THERE HAVE BEEN NO INCREASES IN THE ASSESSMENT AMOUNT OR
11:04:15AM EXPANSION OF THE DISTRICT.
11:04:16AM I BELIEVE THIS DISTRICT WAS CREATED IN 2003, AND THERE'S

11:04:21AM BEEN NO CHANGES OBVIOUSLY ON THIS ROLL.
11:04:28AM NO WRITTEN OBJECTIONS SUBMITTED.
11:04:30AM MICHAEL MARINO IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM.
11:04:32AM HE IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE WESTSHORE ALLIANCE.
11:04:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
11:04:37AM MICHAEL.
11:04:40AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:04:41AM MICHAEL MARINO, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WESTSHORE ALLIANCE.
11:04:44AM AS MENTIONED BY JUSTIN, THERE'S NO CHANGE OVERALL, BUT THERE
11:04:48AM ARE ADDITIONS TO THE WORK PLAN.
11:04:50AM WE'RE ADDING MORE PUBLIC ART INTO THE WESTSHORE DISTRICT.
11:04:53AM ALSO WORKING ON RELANDSCAPING, ESPECIALLY WESTSHORE
11:04:55AM BOULEVARD.
11:04:56AM THAT MAY COME TO YOU AT SOME POINT.
11:04:59AM THE MEDIANS ON WESTSHORE BOULEVARD OWNED BY THE CITY, THE
11:05:02AM REST OF THE ROAD OWNED BY THE COUNTY.
11:05:04AM WHEN THE COUNTY FINISHES THEIR WORK IN THE NEXT SIX TO NINE
11:05:07AM MONTHS, THAT'S WHEN WE'LL WORK WITH CITY PARKS TO MAKE SURE
11:05:10AM THE LANDSCAPING ON WESTSHORE BOULEVARD MEETS THE STANDARD
11:05:12AM THAT WE WANT TO SEE GOING FORWARD ON WESTSHORE.
11:05:14AM THAT MAY COME TO YOU AS A TRIPARTY AGREEMENT, BUT
11:05:17AM NONETHELESS WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT AND CONTINUE
11:05:21AM LOOKING FORWARD TO WORK WITH YOU TO TRANSFORM WESTSHORE
11:05:25AM DISTRICT.
11:05:27AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

11:05:28AM MR. VASKE, UNLIKE NUMBER 58, NUMBER 59 AND 60 HAVE TWO
11:05:33AM RESOLUTIONS ASSOCIATED WITH EACH.
11:05:35AM ONE IS THE -- FOR THE ASSESSMENT ROLL, NON-AD VALOREM
11:05:39AM ASSESSMENT ROLL AND THE SPECIAL SERVICES ASSESSMENT
11:05:42AM AGREEMENT.
11:05:43AM WOULD THEY VOTE SEPARATELY ON EACH RESOLUTION?
11:05:45AM >>JUSTIN VASKE: YES, PLEASE.
11:05:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS?
11:05:48AM ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM 59?
11:06:01AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:06:02AM STEPHANIE POYNOR.
11:06:03AM I'M ALL FOR THE WESTSHORE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT.
11:06:05AM I THINK THEY SHOULD BE TREATED DIFFERENTLY THAN THE REST OF
11:06:08AM THE CHHA BECAUSE THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT MODE OF HOW THEY DO
11:06:14AM BUSINESS AND WHAT THEIR BUILDING PATTERNS ARE AND THE
11:06:19AM BUSINESSES THAT ARE THERE.
11:06:20AM SO THEY SHOULD BE TREATED DIFFERENTLY IN THE COMPREHENSIVE
11:06:23AM PLAN, WHICH IS WHAT THIS GENTLEMAN HAS ASKED FOR PREVIOUSLY.
11:06:27AM I'M OKAY WITH THAT BECAUSE THEY CAN EVACUATE FROM ALL THE
11:06:30AM WAY AROUND THEM, UNLIKE WHERE I LIVE.
11:06:32AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
11:06:34AM ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
11:06:35AM WE'RE NOT GOING TO CLOSE IT.
11:06:38AM I NEED A MOTION TO MOVE THE FIRST RESOLUTION.
11:06:41AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MOVE THE NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT

11:06:43AM RESOLUTION.
11:06:44AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO MOVE THE NON-AD VALOREM
11:06:46AM ASSESSMENT FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:06:49AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:06:50AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:06:52AM OPPOSED?
11:06:52AM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUS.
11:06:55AM MOTION TO MOVE --
11:06:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SPECIAL ASSESSMENT SERVICES AGREEMENT.
11:06:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO APPROVE THE -- MOVE THE SPECIAL
11:07:03AM ASSESSMENT SERVICE AGREEMENT FROM MANISCALCO, SECOND FROM
11:07:06AM HURTAK.
11:07:07AM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
11:07:09AM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
11:07:11AM MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
11:07:13AM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:07:15AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:07:17AM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
11:07:18AM I NEED A MOTION TO REOPEN PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM 60.
11:07:25AM HURTAK, SECOND FROM MANISCALCO.
11:07:26AM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
11:07:28AM OPPOSED?
11:07:28AM AYES HAVE IT.
11:07:29AM THE HEARING IS OPEN.
11:07:33AM >>JUSTIN VASKE: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.

11:07:34AM I'M HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 60 ON THE AGENDA.
11:07:37AM REQUESTING THE APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION TO ADOPT THE NON-AD
11:07:39AM VALOREM ASSESSMENT ROLE FOR THE NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT
11:07:42AM WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN SPECIAL SERVICES DISTRICT OF THE CITY OF
11:07:45AM TAMPA FOR THE PURPOSE OF PAYING FOR THE PROVISION OF CERTAIN
11:07:49AM ENHANCED SERVICES IN SAID AREA DURING THE 2026 FISCAL YEAR,
11:07:52AM INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITING TO MARKETING, BUSINESS
11:07:55AM DEVELOPMENT SAFETY, MAINTENANCE, TRANSPORTATION, AND
11:07:57AM PLANNING, BEAUTIFICATION AND URBAN DESIGN.
11:07:59AM WE ARE ALSO SEEKING APPROVAL OF DOWNTOWN SPECIAL SERVICES
11:08:04AM AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE CITY OF TAMPA AND THE DOWNTOWN
11:08:06AM PARTNERSHIP REGARDING THE USE OF THE NON-AD VALOREM
11:08:10AM ASSESSMENT WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN SPECIAL SERVICES DISTRICT.
11:08:13AM THIS DISTRICT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1997.
11:08:15AM THERE'S BEEN NO EXPANSION THIS YEAR, AND THERE'S NO INCREASE
11:08:19AM IN THE ASSESSMENT AMOUNT THIS YEAR.
11:08:21AM KENYATTA BRIDGES, CEO AND PRESIDENT OF DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP,
11:08:24AM IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
11:08:26AM AND WE HAVE RECEIVED OBJECTIONS TO THE IMPOSITION OF THE
11:08:30AM SPECIAL ASSESSMENT.
11:08:31AM THE CLERK HAS THOSE OBJECTIONS ON FILE.
11:08:33AM THANK YOU.
11:08:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
11:08:34AM STAFF HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
11:08:38AM MS. BRIDGES, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING?

11:08:43AM >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
11:08:44AM I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THIS COUNCIL.
11:08:46AM I'M KENYATTA BRIDGES, PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE TAMPA
11:08:50AM DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP.
11:08:51AM I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THIS COUNCIL FOR YOUR CONFIDENCE IN
11:08:54AM THE PARTNERSHIP TO MANAGE THE SPECIAL SERVICES DISTRICT FOR
11:08:57AM NEARLY 30 YEARS.
11:08:58AM OVER THE LAST FISCAL YEAR, OUR CLEAN AND SAFE TEAM HAS
11:09:01AM COLLECTED OVER 350 TONS OF LITTER AND DEBRIS IN THE PUBLIC
11:09:06AM RIGHT-OF-WAYS.
11:09:06AM ALSO CORRECTED 800 ACTS OF GRAFFITI AND ASSISTED WITH 156
11:09:11AM STRANDED MOTORISTS.
11:09:12AM IN ADDITION, THROUGH UNHOUSED LIAISON SERVICES, WE HAVE MADE
11:09:16AM CONTACT WITH OVER 634 OF OUR UNHOUSED RESIDENTS IN DOWNTOWN
11:09:21AM TO CONNECT THEM WITH RESOURCES.
11:09:23AM AND THAT HAS LED TO EIGHT INSTANCES OF HOUSING PLACEMENTS
11:09:27AM FOR UNHOUSED PROGRAM.
11:09:28AM IN ADDITION TO OUR CLEAN AND SAFE PROGRAM, THE PARTNERSHIP
11:09:33AM -- BEYOND THE CLEAN AND SAFE PROGRAM, THE PARTNERSHIP
11:09:36AM CONTINUES TO CELEBRATE THE ARTS AND LIFT UP ARTISTS AND OUR
11:09:40AM LOCAL ARTISTS.
11:09:41AM WE HAVE NOW INSTALLED SIX MURALS ACROSS DOWNTOWN, WHICH
11:09:45AM WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF AS IT FURTHER ENERGIZES AND BEAUTIFIES
11:09:51AM THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
11:09:52AM ADDITIONAL, CURRENTLY LEADING A PLANNING STUDY FOR 300 ACRES

11:09:55AM IN THE NORTH DOWNTOWN AREA TO LOOK AT THAT AREA, TO SEE IF
11:09:59AM THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO INCREASE DENSITY IN HOUSING,
11:10:02AM DENSITY IN WORKFORCE, AS WELL AS ACTIVATE MORE RETAIL.
11:10:06AM I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR CONFIDENCE IN THE
11:10:09AM PARTNERSHIP.
11:10:10AM I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
11:10:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANY QUESTIONS?
11:10:14AM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
11:10:18AM VERY GOOD.
11:10:19AM I NEED A MOTION --
11:10:28AM >> COREL CASIANOV.
11:10:30AM I'D LIKE TO ASK MORE QUESTIONS AND HAVE THE COUNCIL REVIEW
11:10:34AM THE LANGUAGE OF THE ASSESSMENT, SPECIFICALLY THERE'S VAGUE
11:10:40AM TERMINOLOGY LISTED IN HERE SUCH AS INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED
11:10:44AM TO.
11:10:46AM I THINK THE PUBLIC NEEDS MORE ACCESSIBLE INFORMATION ON
11:10:49AM SPECIFIC FUND ALLOCATION BETWEEN THE CITY AND TAMPA DOWNTOWN
11:10:54AM PARTNERSHIP, AS WELL AS THE MEASURABLE OUTCOMES AND KEY
11:10:58AM METRICS OF WHAT GOOD LOOKS LIKE.
11:11:01AM FOR EXAMPLE, THEY PROVIDE METRICS ON DASH BUT WHAT ARE THE
11:11:04AM GOALS OF RIDERSHIP THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO HIT?
11:11:07AM AND IS IT NECESSARY WHEN WE HAVE OTHER TRANSPORTATION
11:11:09AM METHODS WITHIN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:11:11AM ADDITIONALLY, I THINK THERE MIGHT BE SOME DUPLICATION OF
11:11:16AM EFFORTS BETWEEN SAFETY AND THE TAMPA DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP

11:11:19AM THAT ARE ALREADY COVERED BY THE CITY.
11:11:21AM I WOULD JUST LIKE TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ON
11:11:24AM ARE WE DUPLICATING EFFORTS?
11:11:25AM IS THERE ROOM TO CONSOLIDATE, THAT THESE ASSESSMENTS -- EVEN
11:11:32AM IF THEY ARE STAYING THE SAME, CAN THEY DECREASE?
11:11:35AM THE LAST COMMENT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ON THIS IS THAT WHILE
11:11:40AM I APPRECIATE A LOT OF THE EFFORTS TO KEEP THE CITY
11:11:43AM BEAUTIFUL, THE TERM BEAUTIFICATION ITSELF IS PRETTY VAGUE.
11:11:47AM I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE TAMPA DOWNTOWN
11:11:50AM PARTNERSHIP IS DOING TO DRIVE MORE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INTO
11:11:54AM THE CITY, BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE WE ACTUALLY ATTRACTED A
11:11:58AM LOT OF THE MAJOR EMPLOYERS ACROSS THE UNITED STATES TO COME
11:12:01AM INTO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
11:12:02AM I WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT AND LIKE THE COUNCIL
11:12:05AM TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
11:12:06AM THANKS.
11:12:07AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:12:08AM I NEED A MOTION TO MOVE THE FIRST RESOLUTION, PLEASE.
11:12:14AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE
11:12:17AM NON-AD VALOREM ASSESSMENT ROLL FOR A NON-AD VALOREM
11:12:22AM ASSESSMENT, DOWNTOWN SPECIAL SERVICES DISTRICT.
11:12:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:12:26AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:12:28AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:12:29AM OPPOSED?

11:12:30AM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
11:12:31AM NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THE DOWNTOWN SPECIAL ASSESSMENT
11:12:33AM SERVICE AGREEMENT.
11:12:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO MOVED.
11:12:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:12:36AM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:12:38AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:12:39AM OPPOSED?
11:12:40AM AYES HAVE IT.
11:12:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MOTION TO CLOSE.
11:12:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THERE ARE A LOT OF PUBLIC MEETINGS ON THE
11:12:49AM ITEMS.
11:12:50AM ALL THE ISSUES YOU BROUGHT UP ARE ISSUES THAT MS. BRIDGES
11:12:52AM AND I HAVE ADDRESSED AND DISCUSSED.
11:12:54AM A LOT OF THE ISSUES CURRENTLY BEING DISCUSSED.
11:13:00AM I WOULD DEFINITELY ENCOURAGE TO YOU ATTEND SOME OF THE
11:13:03AM PUBLIC HEARINGS WE HAVE WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP AND
11:13:05AM THE PUBLIC MEETINGS WE HOLD.
11:13:06AM A LOT OF THOSE THINGS YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT ARE ADDRESSED.
11:13:11AM >>BILL CARLSON: ALSO, WHILE KENYATTA IS HERE, YOU MIGHT WANT
11:13:15AM TO TRADE CARDS.
11:13:16AM PEOPLE WHO ARE INVOLVED IN DOWNTOWN IDEALLY WOULD BE
11:13:20AM INVOLVED IN THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP AS WELL.
11:13:22AM AFTER YOU HAVE CONVERSATIONS AND IDEAS, CONTACT US.
11:13:28AM DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP HAS A LOT OF DATA WHICH THEY HAVE

11:13:31AM SHARED WITH US.
11:13:31AM IF THERE IS A WAY TO MAKE IT MORE TRANSPARENT, I WOULD BE
11:13:34AM HAPPY TO SUPPORT THAT AS WELL.
11:13:35AM IT WOULD BE GOOD TO GET EVERYBODY INVOLVED IN DOWNTOWN
11:13:38AM INVOLVED IN MAKING IT BETTER.
11:13:40AM THANK YOU.
11:13:40AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE NEED -- MOTION TO CLOSE THIS PARTICULAR
11:13:48AM PUBLIC HEARING BECAUSE THEN WE'LL MOVE BACK INTO THE 10:30
11:13:51AM PUBLIC HEARINGS.
11:13:52AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:13:53AM SECOND FROM MIRANDA.
11:13:54AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR AYE.
11:13:57AM UNANIMOUS.
11:13:58AM PASSED UNANIMOUS.
11:13:59AM MOTION TO REOPEN 10:30 PUBLIC HEARINGS, PLEASE.
11:14:02AM MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:14:04AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:14:05AM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:14:07AM OPPOSED?
11:14:07AM AYES HAVE IT.
11:14:08AM ITEM 61.
11:14:10AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: MORRIS MASSEY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:14:12AM THIS IS THE FIRST OF THREE PUBLIC HEARINGS THIS MORNING ON
11:14:15AM AMENDMENT AND RESTATEMENTS TO COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLANS.
11:14:18AM THE FIRST ONE IS FOR THE CENTRAL PARK COMMUNITY

11:14:20AM REDEVELOPMENT AREA.
11:14:21AM I BELIEVE YOU ALL HAVE HEARD THIS IN YOUR CAPACITY AS THE
11:14:24AM CRA BOARD.
11:14:25AM IT'S ALSO BEEN HEARD BY THE CAC FOR THE CENTRAL PARK CRA
11:14:29AM AREA AND BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
11:14:32AM CEDRIC McCRAY, COURTNEY ORR AND OTHERS FROM CRA STAFF ARE
11:14:36AM HERE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
11:14:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. MASSEY FIRST.
11:14:43AM THERE HAS BEEN -- WE'VE HEARD COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC THAT
11:14:46AM THERE'S CONCERN ABOUT THIS BEING ATTACHED TO THE COMP PLAN.
11:14:52AM FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THE COMP PLAN, THE LANGUAGE ABOUT THE
11:14:55AM COMP PLAN MEANING WHATEVER COMP PLAN IS IN PLACE.
11:15:01AM AM I CORRECT?
11:15:02AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: CORRECT.
11:15:04AM STATE LAW MANDATES THAT WHENEVER YOU AMEND YOUR COMMUNITY
11:15:06AM REDEVELOPMENT PLAN, IT HAS TO BE REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING
11:15:08AM COMMISSION TO ENSURE THAT IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING
11:15:11AM COMP PLAN THAT'S IN PLACE.
11:15:13AM IT'S NOT CHANGING THE COMP PLAN AT ALL.
11:15:17AM LIKE YOUR REZONING PETITIONS, THEY HAVE TO REVIEW IT TO SEE
11:15:20AM IF IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING COMP PLAN.
11:15:23AM THAT IS THE PURPOSE.
11:15:26AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE ARE STILL QUITE A WAYS AWAY FROM APPROVAL
11:15:28AM OF A NEW COMP PLAN.
11:15:30AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: YES, MA'AM.

11:15:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CEDRIC, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING?
11:15:37AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: CEDRIC McCRAY, TAMPA CRA DIRECTOR.
11:15:41AM JUST WANTED TO SUPPORT WHAT ATTORNEY MASSEY HAS SAID.
11:15:44AM WE ARE HERE TO REQUEST APPROVAL OF ITEMS 61, 62, 63 RELATED
11:15:50AM TO THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN UPDATES FOR CENTRAL
11:15:52AM PARK, TAMPA HEIGHTS RIVERFRONT AND DOWNTOWN CRAs.
11:15:57AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN WE MOVE THESE TOGETHER OR HAVE TO BE
11:15:59AM INDIVIDUAL?
11:16:04AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: THEY ARE SCHEDULED FOR SEPARATE PUBLIC
11:16:05AM HEARINGS.
11:16:06AM I WOULD HEAR THEM SEQUENTIALLY AND SEPARATE VOTES.
11:16:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK
11:16:12AM ON ITEM 61, REFERENCE THE CENTRAL PARK COMMUNITY
11:16:15AM REDEVELOPMENT AREA?
11:16:22AM >> ALISON HEWITT, RESIDENT OF EAST TAMPA, ALSO CANDIDATE FOR
11:16:29AM DISTRICT 5.
11:16:30AM USUALLY I WILL BE UP HERE FOR THE EAST TAMPA CRP AND A
11:16:34AM SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MY COMMENTS WILL BE BECAUSE OF THE
11:16:37AM EAST TAMPA CRP.
11:16:38AM COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN IS HOW THE CRA IS SUPPOSED TO
11:16:44AM BE DEVELOPED.
11:16:45AM SO IF WE ARE NOT FOLLOWING THE PLAN OR AT LEAST IN THIS
11:16:50AM UPDATE THAT YOU HAVE AN ACTUAL REPORT ON HOW THE PLAN WAS
11:16:55AM FOLLOWED, IF IT WAS FOLLOWED, IF IT WAS DONE CORRECTLY, IF
11:17:00AM IT WAS SUCCESSFUL, THEN HOW DO WE KNOW THAT THIS NEW UPDATE

11:17:04AM IS GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION?
11:17:07AM I AM JUST ASKING THAT WE MAKE SURE BECAUSE WE HAVE LIMITED
11:17:10AM TIME AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SUCCESSFUL, THAT WE
11:17:15AM REQUIRE A SUMMARY OF HOW THE PLAN WAS FOLLOWED AND
11:17:20AM ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
11:17:21AM WE INCLUDE GOING FORWARD AN IMPLEMENTATION OF TRACKING TO
11:17:26AM MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING THE PLAN AND TAX DOLLARS AND
11:17:29AM TIF DOLLARS ARE SPENT ACCORDING TO THE CRP, BECAUSE YOU'LL
11:17:32AM GET PROJECTS THAT SAYS IT IS ADDRESSED AND INCLUDED IN THE
11:17:36AM CRP.
11:17:37AM BUT IS THAT PROJECT, WILL IT SEED OTHER DEVELOPMENTS TO
11:17:42AM GROW?
11:17:43AM EXAMPLE, EAST TAMPA, YOU JUST RECENTLY APPROVED 3.5 MILLION
11:17:50AM FOR MIXED USE AND THEN 5 MILLION FOR THE JC NEWMAN.
11:17:56AM NOW WHAT DOES THAT IMPACT FOR THE PLAN THAT WILL SEED
11:18:00AM ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT.
11:18:01AM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE DELIBERATE AND THOUGHTFUL
11:18:05AM AS WE ARE APPROVING THESE PROJECTS.
11:18:07AM THE STAKEHOLDER AND ENGAGEMENT OF THE PLAN, IT WAS
11:18:12AM SIGNIFICANT WHEN THESE PLANS WERE CREATED.
11:18:14AM THESE UPDATES, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE COMMUNITY ENGAGE AND
11:18:20AM SPEAK TO, AGAIN, WHAT HAS BEEN DONE FOR THE LAST 20 OR SO
11:18:24AM YEARS, WAS IT SUCCESSFUL?
11:18:25AM SHOULD WE CONTINUE THAT?
11:18:26AM AND TO BE ABLE TO JUSTIFY WHAT THE NEW CHANGES ARE IF IT'S

11:18:31AM GOING IN A NEW DIRECTION?
11:18:33AM BECAUSE THERE IS NOT EVEN AN EXPLANATION TO YOU AS A CRA
11:18:37AM BOARD ON WHAT THE ACTUAL CHANGES ARE AND UPDATES TO THE
11:18:41AM PLAN.
11:18:41AM YOU JUST HAVE A PLAN.
11:18:44AM THE OUTLOOK REALLY GOOD.
11:18:46AM AFTER 20 YEARS OR SO, YOU SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST A ROAD MAP OF
11:18:50AM WHERE YOU HAVE BEEN TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHERE YOU ARE
11:18:53AM GOING.
11:18:53AM I'M ASKING THAT AS WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH OTHER
11:18:57AM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PLANS THAT WOULD COME BEFORE YOU,
11:19:00AM ESPECIALLY THE ONES WHO ARE PRIMARY -- FOR FAMILIES AND
11:19:04AM RESIDENTIAL, LIKE EAST TAMPA, A SIGNIFICANT PORTION FOR WEST
11:19:07AM TAMPA, THAT WE'RE BEING THOUGHTFUL AND DELIBERATE TO MAKE
11:19:10AM SURE THESE PLANS ARE BEING IMPLEMENTED ACCORDING TO WHAT IT
11:19:13AM WAS ORIGINALLY DONE AND HOW DOES THAT IMPACT WHERE THESE NEW
11:19:17AM PLANS ARE GOING.
11:19:18AM THANK YOU.
11:19:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
11:19:20AM ANYBODY ELSE IN THE PUBLIC WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM 61?
11:19:23AM MR. MASSEY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING?
11:19:29AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: MORRIS MASSEY, LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:19:31AM I WANT TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT MS. HEWITT BROUGHT
11:19:34AM UP.
11:19:34AM ALL OF THE PLAN UPDATES BEFORE YOU DO HAVE A VERY DETAILED

11:19:39AM DESCRIPTION ABOUT WHAT THE STATUS OF THE REDEVELOPMENT
11:19:42AM EFFORTS ARE.
11:19:43AM AND THOSE AREAS.
11:19:45AM A LOT OF THE REASON WHY THE PLANS ARE UPDATED IS BECAUSE OF
11:19:48AM THE AGE OF THE PLANS.
11:19:49AM THEY ARE OVER 20 YEARS OLD.
11:19:51AM CASE OF DOWNTOWN, IT'S OVER 40 YEARS OLD.
11:19:54AM ALSO THE GOALS AND POLICIES OF THE CRA BOARD HAVE ADJUSTED
11:19:57AM OVER TIME WHERE YOU ALL HAVE MUCH MORE CONCERN ABOUT
11:20:01AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
11:20:02AM ALL THE PLANS ARE BEING UPDATED TO ADDRESS THAT IN MORE
11:20:04AM CONCRETE TERMS.
11:20:06AM AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE, ANYTIME A PROJECT OR A FUNDING
11:20:09AM PROPOSAL COMES BEFORE YOU ALL, PART OF WHAT STAFF HAS TO DO
11:20:13AM AND WHAT YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER AS CRA BOARD IS WHETHER IT IS
11:20:16AM CONSISTENT WITH AND FURTHERS THE INDIVIDUAL PLAN.
11:20:19AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:20:20AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION?
11:20:22AM >>BILL CARLSON: ASK MR. McCRAY, SO, FIRST OF ALL, TO WHAT
11:20:26AM MR. MASSEY WAS SAYING, WE AS A CRA BOARD SEVERAL YEARS AGO
11:20:30AM ASKED FOR THESE.
11:20:32AM THEN I THINK WE ASKED THEM AGAIN AT SOME POINT.
11:20:37AM THE REASON THESE PLANS ARE UPDATED, THE COMMUNITY WANTED IT,
11:20:40AM WE AS CRA BOARD WANTED IT AND THEN STAFF WENT THROUGH THE
11:20:44AM PROCESS.

11:20:44AM MY ONLY QUESTION FOR THE SAKE OF THE COMMUNITY, FOR EACH OF
11:20:48AM THESE, CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THE CAC VOTE WAS?
11:20:51AM DO YOU REMEMBER OR APPROXIMATE?
11:20:54AM WAS IT UNANIMOUS OR 60%?
11:20:56AM WHAT WAS THE SUPPORT ON THE CAC ABOUT IT AND WERE THERE ANY
11:21:01AM CONCERNS?
11:21:01AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: YES, EXTENSIVE ENGAGEMENT VIA ONLINE
11:21:05AM SURVEYS.
11:21:06AM THE CONSULTANTS FOR EACH OF THOSE RESPECTIVE CRAs ATTENDED
11:21:10AM ENGAGEMENT MEETINGS, VISIONING SESSIONS AND I BELIEVE MET
11:21:15AM WITH YOU ALL INDIVIDUALLY AS BOARD MEMBERS FOR THE SPECIFIC
11:21:19AM PURPOSE OF BUILDING OUT THOSE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLANS.
11:21:22AM IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE VOTE WAS AN AFFIRMATIVE FOR
11:21:26AM ALL OF THE CACs.
11:21:27AM MS. ORR MAY BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO SOME OF IT.
11:21:30AM SOME OF THE MEETINGS PREDATE US BEING IN OUR CURRENT ROLES.
11:21:34AM THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN ONGOING FOR ABOUT TWO AND A HALF TO
11:21:36AM THREE YEARS TO UPDATE THESE PLANS.
11:21:38AM >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE FOR ANYBODY WHO HAS
11:21:41AM CONCERNS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WE LISTEN TO THE CAC, THAT
11:21:44AM THE CAC DID AFFIRMATIVELY APPROVE THESE.
11:21:48AM IF IT WAS CLOSE, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW.
11:21:51AM IF IT WAS MAJORITY OR UNANIMOUS -- WERE YOU AT THOSE
11:21:56AM MEETINGS?
11:21:56AM DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW?

11:21:58AM >>COURTNEY ORR: CRA DEVELOPMENT MANAGER.
11:22:00AM I WOULD LIKE TO PREFACE THAT THE CAC AND THE COMMUNITY
11:22:03AM WORKED WITH THE CONSULTANT TO BUILD THE UPDATE.
11:22:07AM SO IT WASN'T THE CONSULT WORKING IN A SILO, NOT TAKING IN
11:22:11AM THE CONSIDERATIONS OF THE CAC.
11:22:13AM THEY SUPPORTED THE DEVELOPMENT AND THEN THE OUTCOME BECAUSE
11:22:19AM THEY PARTICIPATED HAND IN HAND.
11:22:21AM >>BILL CARLSON: DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT THE VOTES WERE?
11:22:24AM >>COURTNEY ORR: I CAN'T RECALL A PARTICULAR VOTE.
11:22:26AM LIKE I SAID, WE MOVED IT FORWARD WITH THEIR SUPPORT, THEIR
11:22:30AM INPUT --
11:22:32AM >>BILL CARLSON: IN EACH OF THE CASES, THE CAC VOTED FOR
11:22:36AM THEM, RIGHT?
11:22:37AM >>COURTNEY ORR: YES, FOR SURE.
11:22:38AM >>BILL CARLSON: FOR THE RECORD, ANYBODY WATCHING WHO HAS
11:22:41AM CONCERNS, WOULD KNOW THEIR REPRESENTATIVES OF THE COMMUNITY
11:22:44AM VOTED IN FAVOR OF IT.
11:22:45AM IF THERE ARE LINGERING CONCERNS, FOLKS CAN COME TALK TO US
11:22:48AM AND MAYBE MODIFY THEM ALONG THE WAY.
11:22:51AM THANK YOU.
11:22:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WAS GOING TO ASK IF THERE IS A WAY WE
11:22:54AM ENCOURAGE PEOPLE IN THE CHAMBER TO NOT HAVE CONVERSATIONS
11:22:59AM AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS IN THE HALL.
11:23:01AM I WAS GOING TO ASK THE SAME QUESTIONS.
11:23:09AM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON DID.

11:23:13AM THIS IS SIMPLY -- WE HAVE ALREADY APPROVED THESE SITTING AS
11:23:17AM CRA BOARD, CORRECT?
11:23:19AM I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD SAID THAT, TOO.
11:23:22AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: CAN YOU GIVE ME A MOTION TO CLOSE?
11:23:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MOTION TO CLOSE ITEM 61.
11:23:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:23:28AM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:23:30AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
11:23:32AM MOTION TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
11:23:34AM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
11:23:37AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:23:38AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:23:40AM OPPOSED?
11:23:40AM AYES HAVE IT.
11:23:41AM ITEM 62.
11:23:47AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:23:48AM THIS IS A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE THE AMENDED AND REVISED AND
11:23:51AM RESTATED COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE TAMPA HEIGHTS
11:23:53AM RIVERFRONT COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AREA.
11:23:55AM IT WAS HEARD AND APPROVED BY THE CAC.
11:23:58AM IT WAS REVIEWED FOR CONSISTENCY PURPOSES BY THE PLANNING
11:24:02AM COMMISSION AND APPROVED BY THEM AS WELL.
11:24:05AM AND THEN HAS BEEN APPROVED BY YOU ALL SITTING AS THE CRA
11:24:08AM BOARD.
11:24:08AM THIS IS THE FINAL ACT FOR THE APPROVAL OF IT.

11:24:11AM THESE PLANS MUST BE ADOPTED IN YOUR ROLE AT CITY COUNCIL.
11:24:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
11:24:16AM ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO THIS ITEM?
11:24:19AM HEARING NONE, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
11:24:22AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:24:24AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:24:26AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
11:24:28AM MOTION TO CLOSE, SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:24:31AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
11:24:32AM OPPOSED?
11:24:32AM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
11:24:34AM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION,
11:24:38AM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:24:39AM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
11:24:40AM OPPOSED?
11:24:40AM AYES HAVE IT.
11:24:41AM ITEM 63.
11:24:45AM >>MORRIS MASSEY: LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:24:47AM THIS IS THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN AMENDED AND
11:24:50AM RESTATED FOR THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
11:24:52AM THIS IS PROBABLY THE OLDEST COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.
11:24:55AM THE LAST TIME IT WAS AMENDED IN ANY COMPREHENSIVE FASHION
11:24:58AM WAS 1988.
11:25:01AM AGAIN, THIS HAS BEEN REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE CAC FOR
11:25:04AM DOWNTOWN.

11:25:04AM IT'S BEEN REVIEWED FOR CONSISTENCY PURPOSES BY THE PLANNING
11:25:07AM COMMISSION, APPROVED BY YOU ALL SITTING AS THE CRA BOARD.
11:25:10AM AND THIS IS THE FINAL STEP IN THE PROCESS.
11:25:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
11:25:14AM ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM 63?
11:25:16AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:25:19AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:25:20AM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
11:25:22AM OPPOSED?
11:25:22AM AYES HAVE IT.
11:25:23AM MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK TO MOVE THE RESOLUTION FOR
11:25:25AM 63.
11:25:27AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:25:29AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:25:31AM OPPOSED?
11:25:31AM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
11:25:34AM ITEM 64.
11:25:42AM >>ROSS SAMONS: ROSS SAMONS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION
11:25:44AM PRESENTING FILE VAC-24-13.
11:25:48AM THIS IS AN ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING
11:25:51AM CONSIDERATION, AND THIS IS AN AMENDING ORDINANCE TO AMEND A
11:25:54AM PREVIOUSLY APPROVED VACATING ORDINANCE.
11:25:59AM THE PREVIOUS ORDINANCE HAD SPECIAL CONDITION FROM THE WATER
11:26:02AM DEPARTMENT FOR THE TIMING OF CONSTRUCTION.
11:26:06AM THAT IS WHAT IS BEING PRESENTED TODAY, TO AMEND THAT AND TO

11:26:09AM EXTEND THAT CONDITION.
11:26:11AM I DO HAVE THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION AVAILABLE, BUT I WON'T
11:26:16AM PRESENT IT UNLESS COUNCIL NEEDS THAT.
11:26:19AM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:26:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
11:26:21AM IS THERE AN APPLICANT?
11:26:27AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:26:28AM TYLER HUDSON, 400 NORTH ASHLEY DRIVE.
11:26:31AM LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT ON WHAT ROSS MENTIONED, THIS COUNCIL
11:26:34AM VACATED A RIGHT-OF-WAY IN EAST YBOR LAST YEAR IN SERVICE OF
11:26:37AM A NEW WASTE MANAGEMENT MODERN RECYCLING FACILITY.
11:26:40AM WE HAD A ONE-YEAR DEADLINE TO DESIGN, PERMIT, AND RELOCATE A
11:26:44AM WATER MAIN FACILITY FOR THE CITY AT OUR OWN EXPENSE.
11:26:48AM HINDSIGHT, MAYBE A TOUCH OPTIMISTIC.
11:26:51AM WE'RE HERE ASKING FOR 18 MONTH EXTENSION.
11:26:54AM IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAVEN'T STARTED.
11:26:55AM WE'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE WATER DEPARTMENT.
11:26:57AM THEY DON'T OBJECT TO THE EXTENSION.
11:26:59AM WE'RE 30% CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS.
11:27:01AM WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER.
11:27:02AM NOT ANYONE'S FAULT.
11:27:04AM COMPLICATED THINGS TAKE TIME.
11:27:06AM ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
11:27:07AM NOT AWARE OF OBJECTIONS.
11:27:09AM WE HAVE EXPERTS HERE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.

11:27:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WISHING TO SPEAK TO
11:27:13AM THE ITEM?
11:27:14AM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:27:16AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:27:18AM COUNCILMAN VIERA, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU READ ANYTHING YET.
11:27:21AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING SAY AYE.
11:27:25AM OPPOSED?
11:27:25AM I'M GOING TO START SKIPPING PAST THAT COMPLETELY.
11:27:30AM WE ARE CLOSED.
11:27:31AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:27:32AM >>LUIS VIERA: I MOVE AN ORDINANCE PRESENTED FOR FIRST
11:27:35AM READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA,
11:27:37AM AMENDING ORDINANCE 2024-95, PASSED AND ORDAINED ON SEPTEMBER
11:27:41AM 19, 2024, WHICH VACATED, CLOSED, DISCONTINUED, AND ABANDONED
11:27:46AM THAT PORTION OF 4th AVENUE RIGHT-OF-WAY AS MORE
11:27:49AM PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED BELOW TO EXTEND THE ONE-YEAR
11:27:51AM REQUIREMENT TO SATISFY THE WATER SERVICE SPECIAL CONDITIONS
11:27:54AM BY 18 MONTHS, REPEALING CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR
11:27:56AM SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:27:59AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:28:01AM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:28:04AM -- MIRANDA.
11:28:05AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:28:06AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE.
11:28:08AM OPPOSED?

11:28:08AM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
11:28:12AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY WITH SECOND READING
11:28:14AM AND ADOPTION HELD ON SEPTEMBER 18, 2025 AT 10:00 A.M. IN
11:28:18AM CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 315 EAST KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD
11:28:21AM FLOOR, TAMPA FLORIDA, 33602.
11:28:24AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
11:28:25AM ITEM 65.
11:28:29AM >>ROSS SAMONS: ROSS SAMONS, DEVELOPMENT COORDINATION,
11:28:29AM PRESENTING FILE VAC-25-16.
11:28:35AM THIS IS A CITY INITIATED VACATING REQUEST.
11:28:41AM THE PROPERTY ADDRESS IS 4902 EAST WHITEWAY DRIVE.
11:28:50AM THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST IS TO VACATE A PORTION OF
11:28:50AM ALCOLU AVENUE LYING NORTH OF WHITEWAY DRIVE, SOUTH OF --
11:28:53AM STREET, EAST OF 48th STREET, AND WEST OF 50th STREET.
11:28:57AM THE APPLICATION WAS FILED WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA MARCH 11,
11:28:59AM 2025.
11:29:00AM RIGHT-OF-WAY IS CURRENTLY UNIMPROVED.
11:29:03AM RIGHT-OF-WAY WAS CREATED BY SUBDIVISION PLAT.
11:29:06AM THE EXISTING RIGHT-OF-WAY IS APPROXIMATELY 12,500 SQUARE
11:29:13AM FEET.
11:29:14AM THE REASON FOR THIS REQUEST IS FOR THE PROPOSED LOCATION OF
11:29:16AM FIRE STATION 24.
11:29:17AM HERE IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE LOCATION.
11:29:19AM THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST IN YELLOW.
11:29:23AM CITY OF TAMPA PROPERTY ON BOTH SIDES IN RED.

11:29:26AM AND THEN GRECO PARK TO THE NORTH.
11:29:29AM HERE IS A CLIP OF THE SURVEY PROVIDED.
11:29:36AM AGAIN, AREA IN RED HERE IS PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST.
11:29:41AM AGAIN, PARCELS, CITY OF TAMPA PROPERTY HERE AND HERE.
11:29:43AM YOU'LL NOTICE THERE ARE STILL AVAILABLE RIGHT-OF-WAY TO THE
11:29:48AM NORTH, LIBERTY STREET, STILL PLATTED AND STILL AVAILABLE.
11:29:52AM THIS WAS WHERE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY WAS DEDICATED FOR PLAT.
11:30:01AM AGAIN, RED IS THE PROPOSED VACATING REQUEST.
11:30:04AM THIS IS AN IMAGE LOOKING NORTH FROM EAST WHITEWAY DRIVE,
11:30:13AM APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
11:30:15AM NOTICE THE STORMWATER DITCH HERE.
11:30:17AM STAFF HAS NO OBJECTIONS TO THE VACATING REQUEST.
11:30:23AM EASEMENT RESERVATION IS REQUIRED BY STORMWATER.
11:30:25AM SPECIAL CONDITIONS, NATURAL RESOURCES, COMPLY WITH CHAPTER
11:30:28AM 27 REGARD TO TREE PRESERVATION AND SITE DESIGN FOR ANY
11:30:31AM IMPROVEMENTS, ADJACENT TO TREES IN VACATED AREA.
11:30:35AM THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
11:30:37AM I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
11:30:38AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
11:30:39AM DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
11:30:40AM ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM 65?
11:30:43AM IS THERE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
11:30:47AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:30:48AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:30:50AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

11:30:52AM OPPOSED?
11:30:52AM AYES HAVE IT.
11:30:54AM WE'RE CLOSED.
11:30:55AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:31:03AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NUMBER 65, FILE VAC-25-16, AN ORDINANCE BEING
11:31:09AM PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION, AN ORDINANCE OF
11:31:12AM THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, VACATING, CLOSING, DISCONTINUING
11:31:16AM AND ABANDONING A PORTION OF ALCOLU AVENUE THAT IS LOCATED
11:31:23AM NORTH OF WHITEWAY DRIVE, SOUTH OF LIBERTY STREET, EAST OF
11:31:26AM 48th STREET, AND WEST OF 50th STREET WITHIN THE REVISED
11:31:30AM PLAT OF TERRACE PARK UNIT 5 SUBDIVISION IN THE CITY OF
11:31:33AM TAMPA, HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY, FLORIDA, AS MORE PARTICULARLY
11:31:37AM DESCRIBED IN SECTION 2 HEREOF, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN COVENANTS,
11:31:42AM CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AS MORE PARTICULARLY SET FORTH
11:31:45AM HEREIN, PROVIDING FOR ENFORCEMENT AND PENALTIES FOR
11:31:47AM VIOLATIONS, PROVIDING FOR DEFINITIONS, INTERPRETATIONS, AND
11:31:50AM REPEALING CONFLICTS, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY, PROVIDING
11:31:52AM AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:31:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:31:55AM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:31:57AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:32:01AM OPPOSED?
11:32:01AM AYES HAVE IT.
11:32:02AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:32:04AM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON SEPTEMBER 18,

11:32:07AM 2025, AT 10:00 A.M. IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS 315 EAST
11:32:11AM KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.
11:32:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
11:32:16AM WHAT IS COUNCIL'S PLEASURE?
11:32:18AM WE HAVE ORDINANCE AFTER 1:30.
11:32:24AM DO YOU WANT TO KNOCK OUT A COUPLE OF STAFF REPORTS?
11:32:26AM WE CAN GO RIGHT INTO 66?
11:32:32AM LET'S GO INTO 66.
11:32:38AM >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE A BUDGET MEETING WITH SOMEONE AT 12:30.
11:32:41AM OTHER THAN THAT, I CAN GO UNTIL WHENEVER.
11:32:46AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DON'T THINK WE'LL GO THAT LONG.
11:32:47AM I ASSUME WE'LL BREAK RIGHT AT 12:30.
11:32:56AM 66.
11:33:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MAYBE WE CAN GO TO 67 BECAUSE THAT'S MR.
11:33:09AM SHELBY.
11:33:10AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. SHELBY, ARE YOU PREPARED TO PRESENT
11:33:12AM FOR ITEM 67?
11:33:14AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, BECAUSE I HAVE NOTHING TO SAY.
11:33:16AM THE FEE ORDINANCE SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
11:33:18AM IT IS HERE FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION.
11:33:20AM YOU GENERALLY TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR FIRST READINGS NOW IF
11:33:23AM YOU WISH.
11:33:24AM OTHER THAN THAT, IT IS FOR COUNCIL'S CONSIDERATION.
11:33:26AM IT IS CONSISTENT WITH YOUR DIRECTION.
11:33:28AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

11:33:30AM IS THERE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TO 67?
11:33:36AM HEARING NONE, IS THERE A MOTION TO CLOSE?
11:33:38AM MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:33:40AM SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:33:41AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:33:43AM OPPOSED?
11:33:43AM AYES HAVE IT.
11:33:44AM MOTION TO MOVE -- SORRY, READ THE ORDINANCE.
11:33:55AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I SEE HOME RULE WRITTEN IN HERE.
11:33:58AM REMEMBER THOSE DAYS?
11:33:58AM ORDINANCE BEING PRESENTED FOR FIRST READING CONSIDERATION,
11:34:01AM ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF TAMPA, FLORIDA, ESTABLISHING THE
11:34:03AM 2025 CITY OF TAMPA CHARTER REVIEW ADVISORY COMMISSION, IN
11:34:06AM ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY OF TAMPA HOME RULE CHARTER OF 1975
11:34:10AM AS AMENDED, SECTION 10.10, PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY,
11:34:14AM PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
11:34:15AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:34:17AM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:34:18AM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
11:34:20AM OPPOSED?
11:34:20AM AYES HAVE IT.
11:34:21AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
11:34:22AM SECOND READING AND ADOPTION WILL BE HELD ON SEPTEMBER 18,
11:34:26AM 2025 AT 10:00 A.M. IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 315 EAST
11:34:29AM KENNEDY BOULEVARD, THIRD FLOOR, TAMPA, FLORIDA, 33602.

11:34:34AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
11:34:35AM I SEE THAT STAFF IS HERE FOR 66 NOW.
11:34:40AM >> GOOD MORNING.
11:34:40AM I APOLOGIZE.
11:34:41AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S OKAY.
11:34:42AM WE'RE MOVING.
11:34:45AM >> CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:34:48AM I HAVE A FEW SLIDES IN ORDER TO EXPLAIN THIS MATTER.
11:34:53AM CATCH MY BREATH.
11:34:59AM FILE E2025-8 IS AN ORDINANCE REGARDING PROPOSED CHANGES TO
11:35:04AM CHAPTER 9 OF THE CITY OF TAMPA CODE WHICH IS REGARDING CODE
11:35:09AM ENFORCEMENT.
11:35:10AM CODE SECTION 9-2 IS REGARDING DEFINITIONS.
11:35:17AM THESE ARE THE PROPOSED CHANGES.
11:35:20AM THEY ARE UNDERLINED THAT THE CITY IS PROPOSING TO CHANGE IN
11:35:24AM THE CODE, SPECIFICALLY REGARDING THE FIRST POINT, THE
11:35:29AM ADDITION OF CODE ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL MAGISTRATES TO BE --
11:35:34AM FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO BE ALLOWED TO ENGAGE
11:35:38AM OUTSIDE COUNSEL TO BE THE CODE ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL
11:35:41AM MAGISTRATES.
11:35:42AM THIS CHANGE IS PROPOSED FOR SEVERAL REASONS.
11:35:46AM FIRST, AS CITY COUNCIL IS AWARE OR RECALL, CITY COUNCIL
11:35:50AM RECOGNIZED THE VOLUNTEER CODE ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL
11:35:53AM MAGISTRATES THAT THE CITY HAD FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
11:35:57AM AT ONE POINT, THE VOLUNTEERS WENT DOWN TO APPROXIMATELY TWO

11:36:04AM VOLUNTEERS.
11:36:05AM THERE WERE ACTUALLY SOME OCCASIONS THAT SOME OF THE
11:36:08AM VOLUNTEERS WERE NOT AVAILABLE TO CONDUCT THE CODE
11:36:11AM ENFORCEMENT HEARINGS.
11:36:14AM AS A RESULT, SOME HEARINGS WERE CANCELED.
11:36:16AM CANCELED HEARINGS CREATES A BACKLOG OF OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT
11:36:20AM CASES.
11:36:21AM SO THAT'S REASON NUMBER ONE.
11:36:24AM ADDITIONALLY, THERE HAS BEEN SOME PUBLIC COMMENT ABOUT THE
11:36:28AM COST ASSOCIATED WITH HIRING OUTSIDE COUNSEL FOR CODE
11:36:32AM ENFORCEMENT MATTERS.
11:36:33AM JUST SO THE CITY IS AWARE, THERE WAS ALREADY A COST
11:36:38AM ASSOCIATED WITH HIRING OUTSIDE COUNSEL FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT
11:36:43AM SPECIAL MAGISTRATE.
11:36:44AM WE HAD AN OUTSIDE COUNSEL AT CODE ENFORCEMENT HEARINGS IN
11:36:50AM ORDER TO PROVIDE ADVICE TO THE VOLUNTEER SPECIAL
11:36:52AM MAGISTRATES.
11:36:53AM THERE WAS ALREADY THAT COST ALREADY IN EXISTENCE FOR THE
11:36:58AM CODE ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL MAGISTRATE HEARINGS.
11:36:59AM FINALLY, THIS CHANGE FOR THE CODE ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL
11:37:03AM MAGISTRATE IS PROPOSED BECAUSE THE CITY HAD A FEW CASES THAT
11:37:08AM WERE APPEALED TO CIRCUIT COURT REGARDING MATTERS THAT WERE
11:37:12AM HEARD BY OUR VOLUNTEER CODE ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL MAGISTRATES.
11:37:16AM AT THE CONCLUSION OF THOSE APPELLATE CASES, THERE WERE SOME
11:37:22AM RULINGS THAT THE ORDERS FROM THE VOLUNTEER CODE ENFORCEMENT

11:37:26AM SPECIAL MAGISTRATES WERE NOT SUFFICIENT.
11:37:29AM CURRENTLY, THE LAW FIRM THAT IS USED FOR THE CODE
11:37:32AM ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, THEY PROVIDE ALL OF THE
11:37:37AM ORDERS.
11:37:37AM THEY PROVIDE THEM.
11:37:38AM THEY PROVIDE COMPLETE DETAILS OF FINDINGS OF FACT, AND THE
11:37:43AM CITY IS MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THE ORDERS THAT THE LAW FIRM
11:37:52AM PROVIDES REGARDING THIS MATTER.
11:37:53AM AS STATED, THE PROVISION REGARDING THE PROPOSED CHANGE FOR
11:37:57AM REPEAT VIOLATION MIRRORS THE FLORIDA STATUTE AND WE'RE
11:38:01AM TRYING TO AMEND THE CODE IN ORDER TO MEET THE FLORIDA
11:38:03AM STATUTE.
11:38:04AM CODE SECTION 9-6, SPECIAL SETTLEMENT FOR LIENS, THE CITY IS
11:38:13AM TRYING TO UPDATE THIS CODE SECTION.
11:38:16AM CURRENTLY, THE PROVISION THAT'S IN THE CODE IS OUTDATED, AND
11:38:19AM THIS PROCESS IS NOT FOLLOWED.
11:38:22AM SECTION 9-6, SPECIAL SETTLEMENTS FOR LIENS IS ONLY
11:38:27AM APPLICABLE WHEN THE CODE ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL MAGISTRATE
11:38:31AM LOSES JURISDICTION TO HEAR FINE REDUCTION REQUESTS.
11:38:35AM THIS PROPOSED REVISION REMOVES A PROCESS THAT THE -- THAT
11:38:39AM DOES NOT EXIST.
11:38:41AM CURRENTLY, THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT PROVIDES SETTLEMENT OFFERS
11:38:43AM FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT LIENS BASED UPON THE CITY'S ADOPTED
11:38:47AM POLICIES.
11:38:47AM APPOINTED CODE ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, I LUMPED IN

11:38:59AM THE TWO CODE SECTION AMENDMENT CHANGES THAT THE CITY IS
11:39:01AM TRYING TO CHANGE.
11:39:03AM IT'S CODE SECTION 9-104 AND CODE SECTION 9-105.
11:39:08AM THE CITY IS RECOMMENDING THAT THESE CHANGES ONLY APPLY TO
11:39:12AM THOSE CODE ENFORCEMENT SPECIAL MAGISTRATES WHO ARE
11:39:14AM APPOINTED.
11:39:15AM 9-110, ADMINISTRATIVE FINES, THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT MIRRORS
11:39:28AM THE LEGISLATION THAT WAS JUST PASSED IN 2025.
11:39:32AM THIS LEGISLATION AMENDED CODE SECTION 162.09 OF FLORIDA
11:39:37AM STATUTE TO ALLOW FOR AN INCREASE IN PENALTY FOR DEMOLITION
11:39:42AM OF HISTORIC PROPERTIES.
11:39:43AM LASTLY, CODE SECTION 9-111 AND CODE SECTION 9-114, THE CITY
11:39:55AM IS RECOMMENDING AN INCREASE IN THE TIMELINE IN WHICH A
11:40:00AM RESPONDENT CAN RESPOND TO THOSE RELEVANT CODE SECTIONS.
11:40:04AM AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
11:40:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:40:08AM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
11:40:10AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO GO BACK TO 20% OF THE VALUE OF
11:40:14AM SOMETHING.
11:40:14AM PROPERTY COULD BE WORTH 100,000 OR 200,000.
11:40:24AM GO UP TO 20% UP THAT, 200,000, 40,000.
11:40:26AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: THAT IS WHAT THE INTENTION OF THIS
11:40:30AM STATUTE IS, YES.
11:40:32AM THAT'S IN THE FLORIDA STATUTE.
11:40:36AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HOW DO WE COME UP WITH THE 20%?

11:40:38AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: WE WOULD PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION
11:40:40AM TO THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE AND THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE WOULD
11:40:43AM MAKE THAT DETERMINATION.
11:40:44AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, NO.
11:40:45AM I'M SAYING HOW DO -- IF THE VALUE OF SOMETHING IS SOMETHING,
11:40:48AM HOW DO WE COME UP WITH THE 20%, BASED ON WHAT WE THINK THAT
11:40:51AM THE SPECIAL MAGISTRATE IS --
11:40:54AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: I'M SORRY?
11:40:56AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: IN OTHER WORDS.
11:40:57AM I'M USING A HYPOTHETICAL QUESTION.
11:40:59AM IF THE VALUE OF AN ENTITY IS 400,000, OKAY, AND WE'RE SAYING
11:41:07AM THAT WE CAN PLACE, EXCEED -- MAY NOT EXCEED 20%, GO UP TO
11:41:12AM 20% OF THE VALUE OF THE 400,000.
11:41:15AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: RIGHT.
11:41:17AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WHAT IS THE VALUE OF 20% TO 400,000?
11:41:21AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE SPECIAL
11:41:23AM MAGISTRATE TO DECIDE.
11:41:24AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND THAT.
11:41:25AM ALSO, 20% OF THAT IS 80,000.
11:41:29AM WE CAN GO UP TO 80,000 OF THE VALUE OF SOMETHING FOR THE
11:41:34AM FEES, I GUESS FROM THE FEES, SPECIAL MAGISTRATE, I'M NOT
11:41:38AM SURE.
11:41:38AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: IT IS NOT THE FEES FOR THE SPECIAL
11:41:41AM MAGISTRATE.
11:41:42AM PENALTY ASSESSED FOR DEMOLISHING HISTORIC PROPERTY.

11:41:45AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NOT THAT I KNOW VALUE -- [INAUDIBLE] --
11:41:51AM THE 20% SEEMS KIND OF HIGH TO ME OF ANYTHING.
11:41:54AM THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.
11:41:56AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT'S STATUTE, THOUGH.
11:41:57AM THAT'S COMING FROM FLORIDA.
11:41:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I UNDERSTAND.
11:41:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK: INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, I WAS GOING TO SAY THE
11:42:02AM OPPOSITE.
11:42:02AM IF YOU ARE GOING TO TEAR DOWN AN HISTORIC STRUCTURE, YOU
11:42:05AM SHOULD CERTAINLY HAVE TO PAY MORE THAN 20%.
11:42:08AM I ECHO SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT I'VE GOTTEN IN THE PUBLIC
11:42:13AM REGARDING THAT.
11:42:13AM IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE STICKING TO STATUTE.
11:42:17AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: RIGHT.
11:42:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK: FLORIDA STATUTE ON THAT.
11:42:19AM MY OTHER QUESTION, I DO HAVE FOLKS IN THE PUBLIC WHO WE GOT
11:42:29AM AN E-MAIL THIS MORNING.
11:42:34AM IT SEEMS LIKE YBOR IN PARTICULAR IS REALLY INTERESTED IN
11:42:39AM THESE AND FOLKS HAD REQUESTED THAT THIS BE A WORKSHOP
11:42:43AM INSTEAD OF JUST AN ORDINANCE BECAUSE FOLKS DIDN'T KNOW THIS
11:42:47AM WAS COMING.
11:42:48AM I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY WAY THAT WE COULD MAYBE -- THE
11:42:54AM COMMENTS I'VE GOTTEN ARE FROM YBOR HEIGHTS AND VM YBOR.
11:42:57AM IF THERE IS A WAY THAT MAYBE WE COULD DO A MEETING WITH THE
11:43:00AM NEIGHBORHOODS TO ASK ABOUT THESE, BECAUSE THESE ARE THE

11:43:03AM AREAS THAT REALLY HAVE THESE TYPES OF PROPERTIES, THAT THEY
11:43:06AM ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT.
11:43:07AM BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD A PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY WAS
11:43:13AM THE REASONING OR WHY YOU CHOSE TO MOTION TO SEE AN EXECUTIVE
11:43:19AM ORDER INSTEAD OF JUST SPELLING OUT THE POLICY ITSELF IN THE
11:43:24AM ORDINANCE, WHICH DOES MAKE SENSE.
11:43:26AM IT SOUNDS LIKE IT WOULD BE STRONGER IF INSTEAD OF
11:43:28AM REFERENCING AN EXECUTIVE ORDER, YOU SIMPLY TOOK THAT
11:43:32AM LANGUAGE AND PUT IT INTO THE ORDINANCE.
11:43:34AM I DID WANT TO GET AN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.
11:43:35AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: SO AS I'M HERE TODAY TO MAKE
11:43:39AM CHANGES TO CHAPTER 9, THERE IS A PROCESS IN ORDER TO CHANGE
11:43:42AM THE PROVISION OF THE CODE.
11:43:44AM HAVING THE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES FOR SETTLEMENT OF CODE
11:43:48AM ENFORCEMENT LIENS IS AN EXECUTIVE ORDER.
11:43:52AM IN ORDER FOR AMENDMENTS TO BE MADE QUICKER AND EASIER, BASED
11:43:56AM UPON WHATEVER IS GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY OR IF THERE IS A
11:44:00AM MATTER THAT COULD BE QUICKLY CHANGED THROUGH AN AMENDMENT OF
11:44:04AM THE POLICY, THAT IS WHY IT IS NOT IN THE CODE.
11:44:07AM OTHERWISE, IF WE PUT IT IN THE CODE, IT'S A MORE -- IT'S A
11:44:14AM MORE DRAWN OUT PROCESS IN ORDER TO CHANGE THE CODE FOR A
11:44:18AM QUICK AMENDMENT TO A POLICY OR CONCERN WE WOULD HAVE FOR
11:44:24AM SETTLEMENT OF A LIEN.
11:44:25AM THAT'S WHY IT IS NOT IN THE CODE.
11:44:27AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES, GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE ARE THE ONES THAT

11:44:29AM WOULD CHANGE POLICY.
11:44:30AM EXECUTIVE ORDER SHOULDN'T BE CHANGING POLICY.
11:44:35AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: SO THERE IS A CHARTER PROVISION
11:44:37AM REGARDING THE AUTHORITY TO DO EXECUTIVE ORDERS.
11:44:42AM AND THAT IS IN THE CHARTER.
11:44:44AM MR. SHELBY IS NOT HERE, BUT THAT IS IN THE CHARTER FOR
11:44:49AM EXECUTIVE ORDERS TO BE EXECUTED BY THE MAYOR REGARDING
11:44:53AM POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.
11:44:54AM AND THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT IN THE CODE.
11:44:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK: AGAIN.
11:44:59AM I WOULD PREFER -- I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS -- I WOULD LIKE
11:45:03AM TO SEE THE POLICY OR THE EXECUTIVE ORDER LANGUAGE GO INTO
11:45:07AM THE POLICY IF THERE NEEDS TO BE AN EXECUTIVE ORDER.
11:45:11AM I'M JUST REALLY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH EXECUTIVE ORDER CHANGE IN
11:45:17AM POLICY -- THE WAY YOU DESCRIBED IT, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT IS
11:45:23AM SOMETHING WE CAN DO, THE MAYOR CAN DO AT ANY TIME WHEN
11:45:26AM REALLY POLICY SHOULDN'T BE CHANGING ON A DIME.
11:45:29AM I'M CONCERNED BY THAT.
11:45:33AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK THE CLARIFICATION IS WE CAN
11:45:34AM CONTROL, SO IF IT'S NOT COVERED BY ORDINANCES PASSED BY THE
11:45:38AM CITY COUNCIL, IF IT IS NOT COVERED BY ORDINANCES BY CITY
11:45:40AM COUNCIL, THEN THE ADMINISTRATION RUNNING THE CITY, THE MAYOR
11:45:43AM HAS THE AUTHORITY TO ISSUE --
11:45:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
11:45:44AM THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING, IT SHOULD BE AN ORDINANCE AND NOT

11:45:47AM REFERENCING AN EXECUTIVE ORDER.
11:45:49AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MR. SHELBY.
11:45:50AM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:45:52AM >>BILL CARLSON: FIRST OF ALL, I AGREE WITH YOU, WITH COUNCIL
11:45:56AM MEMBER HURTAK THAT WE SHOULD CONTINUE THIS AND HAVE A NEW
11:46:02AM FIRST PUBLIC HEARING, BUT YOU CAME TO EXACTLY THE SAME
11:46:08AM CONCLUSION I DID, WHICH IS WHY ARE THERE SO MANY REFERENCES
11:46:08AM TO EXECUTIVE ORDER IN HERE?
11:46:15AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, MR. CHAIR,
11:46:15AM THERE'S ONLY ONE REFERENCE.
11:46:16AM IT IS JUST IN THE SETTLEMENT.
11:46:17AM I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT.
11:46:19AM IT'S NOT THROUGHOUT -- IT'S NOT THROUGHOUT THE ORDINANCE.
11:46:23AM >>BILL CARLSON: I HAVE IT ON MY PHONE.
11:46:27AM I CAN'T SEARCH IT.
11:46:27AM THAT SAME SECTION, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS DELEGATING CITY
11:46:33AM COUNCIL'S POWER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY.
11:46:35AM REMEMBER, THE WHOLE THING WHERE WE FOUND OUT THE CITY
11:46:37AM ATTORNEY SINCE 2018 WAS APPROVING SETTLEMENTS WITHOUT OUR
11:46:40AM APPROVAL BECAUSE OF A CITY ATTORNEY'S TWO-PARAGRAPH.
11:46:44AM WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS WE'RE DELEGATING THIS.
11:46:47AM I HAVE NOT HEARD COMPLAINTS OUT OF THIS ADMINISTRATION.
11:46:49AM THE LAST ADMINISTRATION, THERE WERE COMPLAINTS THAT THE
11:46:52AM WAIVER OF LIENS WAS ARBITRARY.
11:46:54AM AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S HANDLED CORRECTLY.

11:46:58AM WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE DELEGATING TO THE MAYOR AND
11:47:00AM DELEGATING TO THE CITY ATTORNEY.
11:47:01AM I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE MORE CONVERSATIONS.
11:47:04AM IF IT COMES UP TODAY, I'LL VOTE NO.
11:47:06AM BUT I HOPE WE'LL CHANGE THIS AND ADDRESS IT.
11:47:08AM I DON'T THINK THAT CITY COUNCIL SHOULD -- THE PERCEPTION IS
11:47:13AM THAT CITY COUNCIL AS WE COMPARE TO THE MAYOR, WE'RE ONLY
11:47:16AM WEAK BECAUSE WE DELEGATE THE POWERS WE ALREADY HAVE TO THE
11:47:19AM ADMINISTRATION OF THE CITY ATTORNEY.
11:47:20AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT IS BEFORE US TODAY IS FIRST READING
11:47:23AM OF AN ORDINANCE.
11:47:24AM CHOICE TO ADOPT THIS, CONTINUE THIS.
11:47:26AM WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS OF COUNCIL, MR. SHELBY?
11:47:29AM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WELL, FIRST OF ALL, CONTINUANCE IS ALWAYS
11:47:32AM IN ORDER.
11:47:33AM SECONDLY, YOU CAN MOVE THIS ON TO SECOND READING, AND IF
11:47:38AM THERE ARE CHANGES TO BE MADE, IT WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO
11:47:40AM FIRST READING.
11:47:42AM IF THAT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
11:47:44AM IF COUNCIL HAS QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, TAKE A LOOK AT IT OR HAVE
11:47:48AM A DISCUSSION OFF-LINE, YOU HAVE A CHOICE.
11:47:51AM YOU CAN CONTINUE IT OR YOU CAN READ IT BY TITLE ONLY ON
11:47:55AM FIRST READING.
11:47:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WOULD PREFER TO CONTINUE THIS BECAUSE,
11:48:02AM AGAIN, THE FOLKS WHO SENT DETAILED COMMENTS HAVE CONCERNS,

11:48:08AM AND THESE ARE THE AREAS THAT OFTEN HAVE CODE COMPLAINTS.
11:48:12AM SO I WOULD PREFER THAT THEY UNDERSTAND IT BEFORE WE PASS IT.
11:48:18AM BECAUSE AFTER READING IT, I HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO FULLY
11:48:21AM UNDERSTAND IT.
11:48:22AM I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS ENOUGH TIME TO DO IT BY OCTOBER 9.
11:48:33AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE, FOR THE
11:48:35AM RECORD, FROM THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT.
11:48:36AM I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED OF WHAT DIRECTION CITY COUNCIL IS
11:48:42AM ASKING.
11:48:42AM I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
11:48:43AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'LL TRY TO SUM IT UP.
11:48:44AM WHAT I'M HEARING, THERE WAS CONCERN FROM TWO COUNCILPERSONS
11:48:49AM ABOUT ISSUES PERTAINING TO THE ORDINANCE ON FIRST READING.
11:48:53AM SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS MAYBE IT WOULD BE BEST THAT WE
11:48:56AM CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO RESOLVE THOSE CONCERNS AND BRING IT
11:48:59AM BACK AT ANOTHER DATE.
11:49:01AM NOW, WHETHER THAT IS THE WILL, WE HAVEN'T HAD TO VOTE.
11:49:04AM I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS THE WILL OF COUNCIL.
11:49:06AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: WHAT ARE THOSE CONCERNS?
11:49:08AM I HEAR ONE ISSUE ABOUT AN EXECUTIVE ORDER.
11:49:11AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK THOSE CONCERNS -- IF THERE ARE
11:49:14AM THOSE CONCERNS --
11:49:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I CAN FORWARD THE E-MAILS I'VE GOTTEN FROM
11:49:17AM THE COMMUNITY AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT.
11:49:19AM LITERALLY I GOT ONE AT 12:30 THIS MORNING.

11:49:22AM I HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO FULLY GO THROUGH IT.
11:49:25AM BUT THE FACT THAT FOLKS ARE ASKING US, WE DON'T GENERALLY
11:49:28AM GET THIS IN-DEPTH OF QUESTIONS.
11:49:31AM I'M GOING TO MOTION TO CONTINUE IT AND I'M HAPPY TO REACH
11:49:37AM OUT AND TALK TO THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, WORK WITH YOU, TRY TO
11:49:42AM FIGURE OUT WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE.
11:49:44AM I MOTION TO MOVE IT TO WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF TIME, WHICH IS
11:49:49AM NOVEMBER 6.
11:49:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THAT MOTION IS IN ORDER TO CONTINUE THIS
11:49:53AM FOR THE COMFORT OF COUNCIL.
11:49:54AM WE'LL SEE IF THIS PASSES OR NOT AND THEN HAVE FURTHER
11:49:57AM DISCUSSION.
11:49:57AM WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO NOVEMBER 6 FROM
11:50:00AM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:50:00AM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
11:50:02AM COUNCILMAN VIERA.
11:50:04AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:50:04AM IS THERE ANY -- I'M INCLINED TO SUPPORT AS A PROFESSIONAL
11:50:10AM COURTESY.
11:50:11AM IS THERE ANY PREJUDICE SUFFERED OR SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES BY
11:50:15AM CONTINUING IT TO THIS TIME?
11:50:16AM I WOULD IMAGINE NOT.
11:50:19AM >>CAMARIA PETTIS-MACKLE: COUNCILMAN VIERA, WE'RE CONTINUING
11:50:20AM OUR PROCESS WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT HEARINGS AS USUAL.
11:50:25AM >>LUIS VIERA: I SUPPORT AS A COURTESY.

11:50:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
11:50:28AM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON TO CONTINUE THE ITEM TO
11:50:31AM NOVEMBER 6.
11:50:32AM ANY OTHER DISCUSSION?
11:50:33AM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
11:50:35AM OPPOSED?
11:50:36AM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
11:50:38AM ITEM IS CONTINUED TO NOVEMBER 6.
11:50:47AM >>BILL CARLSON: CAN I MAKE ONE MORE STATEMENT --
11:50:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK WE DO IT BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.
11:50:53AM THAT FINISHES THAT PORTION OF THE BUSINESS TODAY.
11:50:56AM STAFF REPORTS.
11:50:56AM I BELIEVE WE HAVE ITEM 69 WHAT DO WE HAVE LEFT?
11:51:05AM 69 AND 74.
11:51:09AM MR. ROGERO.
11:51:13AM THIS IS THE SEASON OF DENNIS ROGERO.
11:51:25AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: MY CUP RUNNETH OVER.
11:51:27AM GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
11:51:30AM DENNIS ROGERO, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
11:51:33AM THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 69, AMENDED AND RESTATED REIMBURSEMENT
11:51:37AM RESOLUTION FOR VARIOUS NON-AD VALOREM PROJECTS.
11:51:39AM THE HISTORICAL INFORMATION, OF COURSE, IS IN THE PACKAGE.
11:51:45AM VARIOUS ITERATIONS.
11:51:46AM AND WE'VE ALSO PROVIDED AT COUNCIL'S REQUEST A SUMMATION,
11:51:51AM ITEMIZING THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN PREVIOUSLY

11:51:55AM APPROVED THROUGH RESOLUTIONS.
11:51:57AM AND WHEN APPLICABLE, ALSO PROVIDED COUNCIL THE AMOUNT OF
11:52:01AM DEBT FINANCING THAT COUNCIL HAS HAD APPROVED.
11:52:04AM AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE HAVE THE NEW PROJECTS BEFORE YOU FOR
11:52:07AM APPROVAL TODAY.
11:52:09AM WE HAVE THE BRIEF PowerPoint PRESENTATION THAT WE
11:52:16AM PROVIDED, READY TO GO, IF THAT'S COUNCIL'S PLEASURE.
11:52:27AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, YOU CAN
11:52:29AM KIND OF GO THROUGH IT QUICKLY.
11:52:31AM WE HAVE ALL SEEN THIS MULTIPLE TIMES.
11:52:33AM I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO DWELL ON IT.
11:52:37AM I THINK PROBABLY MORE QUESTIONS.
11:52:38AM >>BILL CARLSON: MAINLY A LIST OF PROJECTS.
11:52:43AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, THAT'S THE PowerPoint.
11:52:44AM IF I COULD HAVE THE PROJECT UP, PLEASE.
11:52:49AM BEFORE I GO THROUGH THE PROJECT, AGAIN, I WANT TO BE VERY
11:52:52AM CLEAR THAT WE'RE NOT ASKING COUNCIL TO APPROVE ANY DEBT
11:52:55AM ISSUANCES TODAY.
11:52:56AM THIS MERELY APPROVES THE ABILITY OR APPROVES US TO GO
11:53:00AM FORWARD AND START SPENDING MONEY ON PROJECTS THAT
11:53:03AM CONCEIVABLY WILL BE FUNDED FROM DEBT FINANCING.
11:53:07AM I ALSO, HOWEVER, WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT IF PERMISSION IS
11:53:13AM GIVEN TO GO FORWARD WITH THE PROJECTS AND WE START SPENDING
11:53:16AM MONEY, IT WILL HAVE TO BE PAID FOR FROM SOMEPLACE.
11:53:19AM THANK YOU IN THE BACK FOR PUTTING THE PRESENTATION UP.

11:53:22AM AS I STATED BEFORE, WE TALKED ABOUT THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED
11:53:28AM REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTIONS AND PROJECTS.
11:53:31AM YOU SEE THEM HERE.
11:53:34AM WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY PROJECTS.
11:53:35AM AGAIN, THE CENTER COLUMN IS THE REIMBURSEMENT ESTIMATE.
11:53:39AM TO THE RIGHT, AGAIN, WHEN APPLICABLE, THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING,
11:53:44AM DEBT FINANCING, EXCUSE ME, THAT COUNCIL HAS APPROVED.
11:53:46AM YOU CAN SEE -- THESE WERE APPROVED OCTOBER 22 OF 2022.
11:53:53AM AND THE PROJECTS CONTINUE.
11:53:55AM THE INITIAL RESOLUTION WAS NOT TO EXCEED.
11:54:01AM $80 MILLION.
11:54:02AM I HAVE MORE SLIDES ON THIS.
11:54:05AM THIS IS SIMPLY THE PUBLIC SAFETY PORTION.
11:54:08AM BEFORE I CONTINUE MOVING, AND I'LL USE PUBLIC SAFETY
11:54:12AM TRAINING FACILITIES AS AN EXAMPLE.
11:54:14AM I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR AGAIN THAT JUST BECAUSE COUNCIL HAS
11:54:19AM APPROVED DEBT FINANCING ON THE RIGHT THERE DOES NOT
11:54:21AM NECESSARILY MEAN THAT WILL BE THE ONLY TIME WE COME TO YOU
11:54:25AM FOR FINANCING FOR A PARTICULAR PROJECT.
11:54:27AM THE PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING FACILITIES, FOR INSTANCE, THE
11:54:30AM REIMBURSEMENT ESTIMATE IS 13 MILLION AS APPROVED BY COUNCIL
11:54:33AM IN 2022.
11:54:36AM WE SIMPLY FINANCED THE DESIGN ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
11:54:41AM SO THERE WILL BE I ANTICIPATE FORTHCOMING REQUESTS FOR
11:54:45AM BONDING ASSOCIATED WITH THE PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING

11:54:49AM FACILITIES, FOR EXAMPLE.
11:54:50AM THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO DATE.
11:54:52AM THE PARKS AND RECREATION AND CONVENTION CENTER.
11:55:07AM THE VARIOUS GENERAL GOVERNMENT PROJECTS.
11:55:09AM AGAIN, APPROVED IN 2022 AND RECENTLY FINANCED A COUPLE OF
11:55:14AM MONTHS AGO.
11:55:14AM MOVING INTO REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION FROM 2024, WE EXPANDED
11:55:24AM UPON THE FIRE MAINTENANCE AND SUPPLY FACILITY AND THE FIRE
11:55:27AM STATION NUMBER 24.
11:55:30AM INCREASING THE REIMBURSEMENT ESTIMATE AS WE CONTINUED WITH
11:55:33AM THESE PROJECTS AND THEIR PROJECTIONS AND YOU SEE WE ISSUED
11:55:37AM JUST UNDER $8 MILLION OF BOND FINANCING.
11:55:40AM AGAIN, A GRAPHIC DEPICTION OF THE 80 MILLION PLUS 50
11:55:49AM MILLION, 130 MILLION.
11:55:50AM YOU SEE HOW THEY HAVE BEEN SUBDIVIDED.
11:55:52AM THAT WAS THE PAST.
11:55:58AM THAT'S WHAT COUNCIL HAS APPROVED TO DATE.
11:56:00AM AND NOW YOU HAVE THE NEW REQUEST BEFORE YOU.
11:56:03AM AND HERE THEY ARE.
11:56:06AM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT PROJECTS AND THE PARKS AND RECREATION
11:56:10AM PROJECTS.
11:56:11AM THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT PROJECTS AND CONVENTION CENTER,
11:56:20AM YOU'LL NOTE THAT ALL OF THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT PROJECTS ARE
11:56:23AM GRANT MATCHES.
11:56:25AM AND THE NEW PROJECT TOTAL, AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE $105 MILLION

11:56:36AM TOTAL.
11:56:38AM AND THEN WE COMBINE THEM SO COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC HAS ONE
11:56:43AM COMPLETE VIEW OF WHAT WE'VE APPROVED SO FAR AND WHAT WE'RE
11:56:47AM ASKING FOR TODAY.
11:56:49AM 130 MILLION, 105 MILLION FOR A TOTAL OF 235 MILLION.
11:56:55AM AND A GRAPHIC DEPICTION OF SAME OF THE TOTAL SO FAR.
11:57:06AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
11:57:07AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO, NO.
11:57:08AM WHEN HE'S FINISHED.
11:57:09AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: AND THAT COMPLETES MY PRESENTATION,
11:57:13AM COUNCIL.
11:57:14AM CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS.
11:57:16AM IF I DON'T KNOW AN ANSWER, I CAN FIND OUT.
11:57:19AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:57:20AM MY QUESTION WAS, AND I MENTIONED IT AT THE LAST MEETING
11:57:23AM ABOUT THE CIT RENEWAL AND THE AMOUNT WE HAVE ALLOCATED FOR
11:57:28AM PUBLIC SAFETY AND WHAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO SPEND THE CIT ON.
11:57:31AM I KNOW THAT IN HERE, YOU HAVE THE HOWARD AVENUE ANNEX AND
11:57:34AM THE FORENSICS BUILDING WHICH WE ESTIMATE COULD BE AROUND $40
11:57:38AM MILLION.
11:57:39AM I KNOW THAT THE NUMBER SHOWN HERE WAS $5 MILLION, I BELIEVE.
11:57:44AM MY QUESTION IS -- I'M SORRY, 4 MILLION AND REIMBURSEMENT
11:57:50AM ESTIMATE 5.3 MILLION.
11:57:51AM I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT LOOKING FORWARD THAT, IF WE
11:57:58AM CAN, WE SHOULD UTILIZE SOME OF THE CIT MONEY TOWARDS THIS

11:58:02AM BECAUSE I KNOW WE'LL BE BONDING A LOT AND THIS IS JUST THE
11:58:06AM BEGINNING OF WHAT THE TOTAL COST IS GOING TO BE IF IT
11:58:08AM DOESN'T GO UP BECAUSE THIS IS TAMPA.
11:58:11AM I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE USE CIT TOWARDS THAT IN
11:58:16AM ORDER TO NOT HAVE TO BOND SO MUCH AND SAVE MONEY ON
11:58:21AM INTEREST.
11:58:22AM I SPOKE TO -- SINCE OUR LAST MEETING, I SPOKE TO SEVERAL
11:58:25AM MAYORS FROM THE PAST ASKING HOW THEY FUNDED PROJECTS.
11:58:29AM AND THEY WERE IN AGREEANCE.
11:58:31AM THE CIT HAS BEEN USED FOR PLENTY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
11:58:36AM THIS FALLS UNDER PUBLIC SAFETY.
11:58:37AM I'M TRYING TO SAVE AS MUCH MONEY AS POSSIBLE IN THE FUTURE.
11:58:40AM THAT'S IT.
11:58:41AM THANK YOU.
11:58:41AM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I CAN COMMENT A LITTLE BIT TO THAT AND
11:58:45AM ELABORATE.
11:58:46AM OF COURSE, AS COUNCIL KNOWS AND MAYBE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC
11:58:49AM DON'T, THE CIT VERSION TWO IS GOING TO BE A VERY SIGNIFICANT
11:58:53AM AMOUNT OF FUNDING.
11:58:54AM OVER A 15-YEAR PERIOD.
11:58:56AM GET SOMEWHAT OF A SLOW START, THOUGH, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T GO
11:58:59AM INTO EFFECT UNTIL DECEMBER OF NEXT YEAR.
11:59:01AM WE HAVE IDENTIFIED, AT LEAST PRELIMINARILY, WHAT THE INITIAL
11:59:06AM FUNDING WILL BE SPENT ON.
11:59:07AM IT'S IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

11:59:09AM THIS, I THINK, WILL BE A VERY, VERY GOOD NEXUS.
11:59:17AM AS WE, THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, DECIDE WHAT EXACTLY TO
11:59:23AM SPEND THE COMMUNITY INVESTMENT TAX MONEY ON, AND AS WE GO
11:59:25AM FORWARD IN TERMS OF THE PACE OF THESE PROJECTS AND WHEN THE
11:59:31AM FUNDING WILL BE NEEDED, AND IF THE REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION
11:59:34AM IS APPROVED, IT'S ALL ABOUT FLEXIBILITY.
11:59:36AM IT'S ALL ABOUT PROVIDING THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL FLEXIBILITY
11:59:40AM AS TO WHAT WE FUND THE PROJECTS WITH.
11:59:42AM RUN, WE'RE AT THE BEGINNING OF QUITE THE PROCESS WHEN IT
11:59:47AM COMES TO PROJECTS BEING APPROVED AND COMPLETED AND THE
11:59:50AM INFLUX OF FUNDING THAT THE CIT WILL GIVE US.
11:59:54AM I THINK THERE IS A GREAT DEAL OF FLEXIBILITY, BUT IT WILL
11:59:57AM ENTAIL FUTURE DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN THE MAYOR AND CITY
11:59:59AM COUNCIL.
12:00:00PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU.
12:00:01PM YOU'RE RIGHT, FUTURE DISCUSSIONS.
12:00:03PM I THINK WE NEED TO PUT THIS OUT THERE THAT WE NEED TO HUMBLE
12:00:08PM OURSELVES NOW, AND FUTURE COUNCILS AND FUTURE MAYOR, MAYORS
12:00:12PM IN DOING THE RIGHT THING.
12:00:14PM BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF EGO IN POLITICS.
12:00:16PM A LOT OF BIG LEGACY PROJECTS, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF NEEDS.
12:00:20PM YOU SHOWED THE LIST.
12:00:21PM WE HAVE FIRE NEEDS.
12:00:23PM WE HAVE POLICE NEEDS.
12:00:24PM WE HAVE COMMUNITY NEEDS.

12:00:27PM JUST DO THE RIGHT THING.
12:00:29PM THE CIT IS A BLESSING.
12:00:31PM IN THIS POLITICAL ENVIRONMENT WHEN THINGS ARE KILLED AT THE
12:00:34PM BALLOT BOX, CIT RENEWAL, 15-YEAR EXTRA LIFE LINE WILL SAVE
12:00:38PM US A LOT OF MONEY.
12:00:39PM WE HAVE TRIPLE A BOND RATINGS, WE HAVE SO MUCH TO BE PROUD
12:00:43PM OF.
12:00:43PM IN THIS VOLATILE, FINANCIAL ENVIRONMENT, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT
12:00:46PM IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS.
12:00:48PM WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ECONOMY WILL LOOK LIKE.
12:00:50PM THINGS ARE GOOD NOW.
12:00:51PM THE STOCK MARKET IS UP.
12:00:53PM INTEREST RATES MIGHT BE COMING DOWN.
12:00:55PM MY PHONE IS BREAKING NEWS EVERY DAY AND ALL DAY LONG.
12:01:00PM NOTHING IS CERTAIN.
12:01:01PM SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND LOOK AT THE NEXT 15, 16, 17 YEARS
12:01:06PM AND FUTURE LEADERSHIP THAT GETS ELECTED, HUMBLE YOURSELVES
12:01:09PM IN DOING WHAT IS NECESSARY.
12:01:11PM WE HAVE A LOT OF NECESSARY PROJECTS HERE BUT VERY EASY FOR A
12:01:17PM POLITICIAN TO GO OFF THE RAILS AND SAY I WANT TO DO
12:01:21PM SOMETHING -- IT'S NOT ABOUT DOING SOMETHING BIG AND
12:01:24PM IMPACTFUL.
12:01:25PM IT'S WHAT IS RIGHT AND NECESSARY.
12:01:27PM WANTS AND NEEDS.
12:01:28PM WE HAVE A LOT OF NEEDS, PUBLIC SAFETY INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS.

12:01:30PM STORMWATER FOLKS ARE HERE.
12:01:31PM WE'RE MAKING THOSE INVESTMENTS.
12:01:33PM THAT'S WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO THE FUTURE OF THIS CITY.
12:01:35PM THANK YOU.
12:01:36PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:01:38PM >>BILL CARLSON: IF WE APPROVE IN THE NEXT YEAR AND A HALF,
12:01:45PM IF THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVES ALL THE DEBT THAT THIS
12:01:48PM ADMINISTRATION IS PROPOSING, WE'RE GOING TO THROW THE NEXT
12:01:51PM CITY COUNCIL, THE NEXT ADMINISTRATION INTO A DEBT CRISIS.
12:01:57PM JUST TO PREFACE WHATEVER NASTY E-MAIL THE ADMINISTRATION
12:02:01PM WANTS TO SEND, I'VE TALKED TO OTHER CITIES AND COUNTIES,
12:02:04PM TALKED TO EXPERTS ON FINANCING.
12:02:07PM WHEN PEOPLE FIND OUT THE DEBT OF THE CITY, THEY ARE APPALLED
12:02:09PM BY IT.
12:02:10PM RATINGS ARE HIGH FOR NOW.
12:02:12PM FOR SEVERAL FACTORS.
12:02:13PM BUT WE'RE ON THE PRECIPICE OF CHANGING THAT.
12:02:16PM IF WE ADD THE SIX OR EIGHT HUNDRED MILLION WHATEVER MORE
12:02:19PM DEBT THE ADMINISTRATION WANTS, WE'RE GOING TO PUT THE NEXT
12:02:23PM ADMINISTRATION, NEXT CITY COUNCIL IN A CRISIS.
12:02:26PM KEEP IN MIND AT THE CURRENT RATES, OUR CHILDREN AND
12:02:32PM GRANDCHILDREN WILL BE PAYING FOR THE NEXT 30 YEARS, 80 TO
12:02:35PM 100 PERCENT OF THE PRINCIPAL AND INTEREST JUST SO WE CAN
12:02:39PM RUSH SOME PROJECTS NOW.
12:02:41PM THE POINT IS WE'VE GOT TO START SAYING NO.

12:02:45PM NEXT CITY COUNCIL, NEXT ADMINISTRATION, EITHER FORCED TO
12:02:48PM RAISE TAXES OR GO INTO AUSTERITY MODE LIKE PAM IORIO DID IN
12:02:53PM THE GREAT RECESSION.
12:02:55PM CERTAIN PEOPLE IN THE CITY AND THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY
12:02:58PM DON'T WANT US TO LAY OFF HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE SO WE CAN PAY
12:03:01PM FOR THE INTEREST THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION SPENT.
12:03:04PM WE'VE GOT TO PUT AUSTERITY MEASURES IN NOW.
12:03:07PM WE ALSO DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ECONOMY WILL DO.
12:03:11PM WE KNOW THAT FLOODS AND OTHER THINGS HAVE HAD AN IMPACT ON
12:03:14PM TAXES.
12:03:14PM WE NEED TO DO SENSITIVITY.
12:03:16PM WE CAN'T COMPLETELY MAX OUT THE CREDIT CARDS OVER THE NEXT
12:03:20PM YEAR AND A HALF.
12:03:20PM WE'RE NOT AT THAT POINT, YET, OBVIOUSLY, BUT WE NEED TO STOP
12:03:24PM IT.
12:03:24PM AND THERE ARE PROJECTS THAT ARE NICE TO HAVE THAT WE
12:03:28PM SHOULDN'T INCLUDE.
12:03:29PM AN EXAMPLE IS THE WEST RIVERWALK.
12:03:32PM ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS THE ASHLEY STREET PROJECT.
12:03:34PM THESE FIRE STATION PROJECTS I THINK ARE ESSENTIAL, AND THERE
12:03:37PM ARE A FEW THAT ARE STILL ON HERE THAT NEED TO BE APPROVED.
12:03:41PM AS A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC, MS. BLUMA HAS SAID BEFORE, I
12:03:45PM THINK WE SHOULD APPROVE THESE ONE BY ONE, IF THE ONLY CHOICE
12:03:50PM -- I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THEY GO BACK AND JUST PASS A
12:03:54PM RESOLUTION, CREATE NEW RESOLUTIONS TO ADD THESE ONE BY ONE

12:03:57PM TO THE EXISTING LIST.
12:03:58PM BUT THE WAY THE RESOLUTION IS WRITTEN NOW, IT RESTATES THE
12:04:01PM ORIGINAL PROJECTS AND THEN IT ADDS THE ADDITIONAL PROJECTS
12:04:05PM AND THE IMPLICATION THERE IS THAT WE ARE REAFFIRMING THE OLD
12:04:09PM PROJECTS, WHICH INCLUDE HANNA AVENUE AND OTHER PROJECTS THAT
12:04:12PM I DON'T SUPPORT.
12:04:15PM IF THOSE PROJECTS ARE STILL INCLUDED IN THE RESOLUTION, MY
12:04:17PM VOTE TODAY IS GOING TO BE NO.
12:04:18PM IF THEY COME BACK INDIVIDUALLY AND SAY WE WANT TO SUPPORT
12:04:21PM THE FIRE STATIONS AND OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE ESSENTIAL, MY
12:04:25PM VOTE WILL BE YES.
12:04:26PM THANK YOU.
12:04:32PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WAS NOT GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT THE CIT
12:04:35PM TAX, BUT SINCE YOU BROUGHT IT UP, I GUESS I HAVE TO.
12:04:38PM I HAVE NEVER VOTED FOR THE CIT TAX.
12:04:42PM LET ME TELL YOU WHY.
12:04:47PM IT GOES TO SOMEONE ELSE IN A MUCH LARGER NUMBER THAN IT GOES
12:04:52PM TO THE CITY OF TAMPA.
12:04:55PM THE TOTAL SUMS COLLECTED IN THE WHOLE COUNTY, CITY OF TAMPA,
12:05:00PM AS SMALL AS IT IS COMPARED TO THE COUNTY, PUTS IN ABOUT 30%
12:05:04PM OF THE TOTAL COLLECTION.
12:05:07PM YOU KNOW WHAT WE GET BACK?
12:05:09PM 20%.
12:05:11PM I'M JUST RUNNING IT OUT.
12:05:15PM YOU CAN CORRECT ME ANYTIME YOU WANT, MR. ROGERO.

12:05:18PM I DON'T GET UPSET WITH THAT.
12:05:20PM IN FACT, I WELCOME THAT.
12:05:22PM THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
12:05:26PM FIRST OF ALL, IT'S FOR 15 YEARS.
12:05:28PM THE OTHER SIDE FOR 15 YEARS GETS $850 MILLION.
12:05:33PM WHAT DO WE GET?
12:05:37PM I'LL LEAVE THAT UP TO SOMEONE ELSE TO SAY.
12:05:43PM I THINK IT'S LIKE 20 MILLION A YEAR, MAYBE.
12:05:46PM I'M NOT SURE, BUT I'M TAKING A GUESS.
12:05:49PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: A LITTLE LESS THAN THAT TO BEGIN.
12:05:51PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I TOOK A GUESS.
12:05:53PM I'M NOT AS SMART AS ANYONE THINKS I AM ON THAT.
12:05:58PM THAT'S 20 TIMES 15.
12:06:02PM THEY GET 850 MILLION.
12:06:08PM WHAT IS 20 TIMES 15?
12:06:10PM THAT'S WHAT YOU'LL GET.
12:06:12PM HOWEVER, IF THERE IS A SHORTFALL IN THE COLLECTION, NOTICE I
12:06:17PM SAY WE BRING IN 30 AND WE ONLY COLLECT 20, IF THERE IS A
12:06:22PM SHORTFALL IN THE COLLECTION, WE'RE GOING TO PAY 30.
12:06:25PM ISN'T THAT NICE?
12:06:26PM THAT WAS A REAL SMART MOVE FOR ALL OF US.
12:06:30PM SO I DON'T WANT -- I'M NOT POUNDING MY CHEST.
12:06:34PM I'M JUST TELLING YOU THE FACTS.
12:06:37PM THE PUBLIC CAN BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
12:06:39PM I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF REALLY.

12:06:41PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO TELL YOU.
12:06:42PM WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A BOND AND A LOAN?
12:06:46PM IT'S THE SAME THING.
12:06:48PM IN A WAY.
12:06:50PM HOWEVER, YOU GO GET A LOAN FOR 4.4% ANYWHERE.
12:06:55PM THAT'S WHAT I THINK THE BOND MARKET IS NOW.
12:06:57PM I'M NOT SURE BECAUSE I'M NOT THAT SMART.
12:06:59PM AGAIN, I'M GOING TO SAY THAT I'M NOT THAT SMART.
12:07:01PM SO ANYBODY WANTS TO GET A LOAN FOR 4.4% IN THIS CITY OF
12:07:07PM TAMPA LET ME KNOW BECAUSE I WANT TO GO THERE ALSO AT ANY
12:07:10PM BANK.
12:07:11PM SO THAT'S WHY YOU BOND.
12:07:14PM BUT A BOND HAS A DIFFERENT FEEL OF THE WORD INSTEAD OF A
12:07:20PM LOAN.
12:07:20PM A LOAN IS A LITTLE BIT HARDER.
12:07:23PM A BOND YOU THINK, OH, WE'RE GOING TO BOND TOGETHER, HAVE A
12:07:26PM NICE TIME, GO TO THE FAIR AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
12:07:29PM NO.
12:07:30PM IT'S ABOUT MONEY.
12:07:30PM BUT THE BONDING MARKET, IT IS THE MOST CONVENIENT WAY AND
12:07:35PM LESS EXPENSIVE WAY FOR AN ENTITY OF THIS SIZE, GOVERNMENT OF
12:07:40PM THIS SIZE, LARGE OR SMALLER, TO DO BUSINESS.
12:07:43PM THEY ARE DOING THE TAXPAYER A SERVICE BY GETTING IT AT A
12:07:46PM CHEAPER RATE.
12:07:47PM YEAH, IT'S COSTLY TO GET THERE.

12:07:49PM I'M NOT GOING TO DENY THAT.
12:07:50PM SO THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A BOND AND AN INTEREST
12:07:54PM OTHER THAN THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT YOU'RE SPENDING ON
12:07:57PM INTEREST.
12:07:59PM THEREFORE, I'D RATHER BOND THAN GO BORROW AT THE BANK
12:08:04PM BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET 4.4% AT THE BANK.
12:08:08PM IF YOU ARE, LET ME KNOW BECAUSE I WANT TO GO TO THAT BANK.
12:08:12PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN, FOR ALLOWING ME.
12:08:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
12:08:17PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:08:19PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
12:08:23PM I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S CONFUSING ABOUT THIS IS
12:08:27PM LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE FIRST PAGE, THE REIMBURSEMENT
12:08:31PM RESOLUTION 2022-915 HAS THE HOWARD AVENUE ANNEX FORENSICS
12:08:38PM BUILDING, THE REIMBURSEMENT ESTIMATE OF 5.3, AND WE PUT THE
12:08:43PM 4 MILLION OUT ALREADY, BUT WE ALREADY KNOW THAT THE TOTAL OF
12:08:47PM THAT IS GOING TO BE AROUND 40 MILLION.
12:08:49PM AND THAT'S NOWHERE IN HERE IN TERMS OF FUTURE.
12:08:54PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED.
12:08:58PM WE CAN PROVIDE THAT.
12:08:59PM THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED AS PART OF THE BUDGET PRESENTATION
12:09:01PM FOR FISCAL YEAR 26, THE 40 ODD MILLION DOLLAR ITEM.
12:09:07PM STILL UNAPPROVED, YES.
12:09:09PM TO CLARIFY, YES, BACK IN OCTOBER OF 2022, THIS WAS THE
12:09:16PM ENVISIONED REIMBURSEMENT ESTIMATE TO GO FORWARD AND START

12:09:19PM SPENDING MONEY.
12:09:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WHAT IS MISSING IS WE HAVE THE REIMBURSEMENT
12:09:26PM ESTIMATE.
12:09:26PM WE HAVE THE SERIES THAT WAS APPROVED THAT WE GOT THE BONDS,
12:09:30PM GOT THE MONEY, WE PAID FORWARD IN THESE, BUT WE DON'T KNOW
12:09:39PM THE TOTAL COSTS -- I MEAN, ON THIS CHART, DOESN'T SHOW US
12:09:43PM THE TOTAL COST OF THESE PROJECTS AND HOW MUCH -- I MEAN, SO
12:09:48PM I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S BEEN ENCUMBERED, WHAT'S BEEN SPENT, LIKE
12:09:52PM THE OVERAGES.
12:09:53PM AND THAT'S, I THINK, ONE OF THE BIG CONCERNS BECAUSE I SHARE
12:09:57PM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON'S CONCERN, AND COUNCIL MEMBER
12:10:00PM MANISCALCO'S CONCERN ABOUT BONDING.
12:10:06PM I THINK THE CIT IS FINE, BUT WE CAN'T TAP THAT UNTIL 2026.
12:10:09PM SO WE'RE STILL LOOKING, HOW DO WE BOND NOW, AND THEN WE
12:10:16PM DON'T HAVE MONEY FOR HOWARD AVENUE FOR THIS BUILDING THAT IS
12:10:21PM GOING TO BREAK GROUND PROBABLY -- I MEAN, IT SEEMS WITHIN
12:10:25PM THIS CALENDAR YEAR.
12:10:27PM BUT IN THIS REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION, IS WE HAVE
12:10:30PM $48.7 MILLION FOR FIRE STATIONS THAT WE CAN'T EVEN START
12:10:35PM LOOKING AT UNTIL WE HAVE STARTED AND BUILT THE FLEET AND
12:10:42PM SUPPLY.
12:10:44PM SO THIS IS THE PART -- I MEAN, WE ALL AGREE THESE PROJECTS
12:10:48PM ARE IMPORTANT, BUT WHY WOULD WE PUT A REIMBURSEMENT
12:10:51PM RESOLUTION FOR $48.7 MILLION RIGHT NOW FOR SOMETHING WE
12:10:54PM AREN'T EVEN GOING TO BE ABLE TO START WHILE WE'RE HERE?

12:10:58PM WE ALL AGREE THEY ARE IMPORTANT THINGS, BUT OUR TIME IN
12:11:07PM OFFICE, MAYBE NEXT YEAR WE'LL BE ABLE TO START.
12:11:11PM AGAIN, IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME WHY THE HOWARD AVENUE
12:11:15PM FORENSICS BUILDING IS 5.7 MILLION -- 5.6 MILLION, AND GREAT,
12:11:20PM THAT'S BEEN ABLE TO HELP THE BEGINNING OF IT.
12:11:22PM THAT'S BEEN ABLE TO HELP THE DESIGN, THE ENGINEERING, ALL OF
12:11:27PM THAT.
12:11:28PM WHY AREN'T WE JUST DOING THAT FOR THESE PROJECTS?
12:11:31PM I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WE WANT TO HAVE THE MONEY TO DO THEM,
12:11:34PM BUT ALSO KNOWING WHERE WE ARE AND THE KIND OF MONEY WE HAVE,
12:11:38PM WHY AREN'T WE PUTTING REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTIONS FOR THOSE
12:11:42PM BEGINNING ASPECTS?
12:11:45PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING.
12:11:47PM CHAIR PRIVILEGE JUMPING IN THE MIDDLE OF IT, RIGHT?
12:11:50PM IT'S INTERESTING YOU BROUGHT THAT UP.
12:11:54PM HOWARD AVENUE.
12:11:55PM IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, THE ONLY THING THAT THIS COUNCIL IS
12:11:59PM AUTHORIZED IS THE DESIGN, THE FOUR POINT WHATEVER MILLION
12:12:02PM DOLLARS.
12:12:02PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, SIR.
12:12:03PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: REFERENCE THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE'LL SEE
12:12:05PM SHOVELS IN THE GROUND THERE, BETTER NOT BE SEEING SHOVELS IN
12:12:07PM THE GROUND BECAUSE THE PROJECT HASN'T BEEN AUTHORIZED YET.
12:12:10PM GOOD LUCK TRYING TO FIND MONEY WITHOUT COUNCIL'S APPROVAL TO
12:12:13PM PAY FOR SOMETHING IF YOU START BUILDING IT.

12:12:15PM I HOPE SOMEBODY IN THAT DEPARTMENT HAS REALLY LARGE
12:12:18PM ENDOWMENT SOMEWHERE THAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT.
12:12:20PM ONE THING I APPRECIATE ABOUT THIS, THOUGH, ONE OF MY
12:12:29PM FRUSTRATIONS, WE ASKED, I NEED TO KNOW IT A COUNCIL APPROVED
12:12:35PM VOTE, WHEN I VOTE FOR SOMETHING, THAT THE INTENTION OF YOU
12:12:39PM ALL TO DO THAT IS BONDING AND WHAT THE FULL COST IS.
12:12:42PM ACTUALLY, I APPRECIATE THAT COMING TO US LIKE THIS.
12:12:44PM INSTEAD OF TEENY PIECES.
12:12:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: IT'S NOT CONSISTENT.
12:12:49PM THIS IS THE PART THAT CONFUSES ME IS IN THIS REIMBURSEMENT
12:12:52PM RESOLUTION, WHY YOU WOULDN'T HAVE BROUGHT FORWARD THAT
12:12:58PM PROJECT TOO.
12:12:59PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT.
12:13:01PM LET ME PREFACE THIS BY SAYING I WANT COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC
12:13:05PM TO HAVE ALL OF THE INFORMATION THEY WANT.
12:13:07PM FROM A PROJECT PERSPECTIVE, AGAIN, I'LL USE THE HANNA AVENUE
12:13:14PM ANNEX FORENSICS.
12:13:16PM THIS, AGAIN, WAS ALMOST THREE YEARS AGO.
12:13:19PM AND AT THAT TIME, IT WAS ENVISIONED THAT WE WOULD ONLY WANT
12:13:23PM TO START SPENDING MONEY FOR, AS YOU SAID, MA'AM, DESIGN.
12:13:27PM SO WE STARTED SPENDING MONEY FOR THE DESIGN AND THEN YOU SEE
12:13:30PM IN JUNE, WE DID A BOND FINANCING ISSUANCE TO PAY US BACK,
12:13:36PM AND THAT'S WHAT THE REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION IS FOR.
12:13:38PM WE'RE NOT COMING TO YOU AT THIS JUNCTURE, ALTHOUGH WE CAN IF
12:13:43PM THAT'S COUNCIL'S WISH, WE'RE NOT COMING TO YOU AT THIS

12:13:45PM JUNCTURE TO ASK FOR ANY MORE APPROVALS ASSOCIATED WITH THE
12:13:49PM HOWARD AVENUE ANNEX.
12:13:50PM THIS IS SIMPLY HISTORICAL.
12:13:54PM NOW, IN THE DEBT PRESENTATION ASSOCIATED WITH THE JULY
12:13:59PM BUDGET PRESENTATION, NOW, IT'S IN A DIFFERENT SOURCE.
12:14:03PM WE HAVE LAID OUT WHAT WE ANTICIPATE TO BE THE DEBT ISSUANCE
12:14:08PM CALENDAR OR TIME FRAMES WITH THAT ISSUANCE, ONE, THAT ISSUE,
12:14:14PM DEBT ISSUANCE TWO, DEBT ISSUANCE THREE BASED ON AT THIS TIME
12:14:18PM WHAT FUNDING WILL BE NEEDED AND WHEN.
12:14:20PM I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK TO OCTOBER OF 2022, BUT I CAN TELL YOU
12:14:26PM WE'RE NOT COMING TO YOU ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL REIMBURSEMENT
12:14:31PM RESOLUTION AUTHORITY FOR THE HOWARD ANNEX BECAUSE WE DON'T
12:14:33PM ANTICIPATE WE'RE GOING TO SPEND ANY OF THAT MONEY YET FOR
12:14:38PM SOME OF THE REASONS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED.
12:14:40PM DOES THAT CLARIFY?
12:14:43PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I NEED TO GET CLARIFICATION, TOO, ABOUT
12:14:45PM THE PURPOSE OF THIS RESOLUTION.
12:14:46PM WHY -- SO MUCH OF THIS PRESENTATION TODAY, THINGS COUNCIL
12:14:57PM ALREADY AUTHORIZED AND APPROVED, WHETHER I LIKE SOME OF THAT
12:14:59PM STUFF OR NOT, IT'S DONE.
12:15:01PM ASKED AND ANSWERED.
12:15:02PM WHY ARE THESE INCLUDED IN THE RESOLUTION?
12:15:05PM WHY DON'T WE HAVE ANOTHER CLEAN RESOLUTION WITH JUST THE
12:15:08PM ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURES?
12:15:10PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: AND WE CAN DO THAT.

12:15:12PM THE CONCERN WAS THAT THAT WAS -- AND THESE ARE MY WORDS --
12:15:17PM THAT THAT WAS PIECEMEALING THE OVERALL PICTURE OF WHAT WE
12:15:20PM INTEND TO DO FROM A REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION PERSPECTIVE.
12:15:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DO LIKE THE COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT DEBT
12:15:28PM AND WHAT WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED.
12:15:30PM WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO TODAY IS VOTE ON SOMETHING THAT ENDS
12:15:34PM UP PUTTING ME IN A POSITION TO VOTE NO BECAUSE I VOTED NO IN
12:15:39PM ONE OF THE ISSUES INCLUDED IN THE FIRST DEBT ISSUANCE.
12:15:41PM IN OTHER WORDS, I ALREADY VOTED NO ON A DEBT ISSUANCE
12:15:45PM COUNCIL APPROVED, BUT WHEN THIS ROLLED TOGETHER, YOU FORCE
12:15:49PM ME TO VOTE NO.
12:15:50PM THE NEW STUFF, I WOULD VOTE YES.
12:15:54PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: MAY I SUGGEST THAT IF -- BELIEVE IT OR NOT,
12:15:58PM I VIEW THIS AS PROGRESS -- IF COUNCIL IS HAPPY WITH THE
12:16:02PM COMPREHENSIVE LOOK, HISTORICAL AND WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR NOW
12:16:06PM BUT DOESN'T WANT THAT AS PART OF THE RESOLUTION, WE CAN
12:16:08PM BRING BACK A RESOLUTION AS YOU AND I THINK COUNCILMAN
12:16:12PM CARLSON SUGGESTED OF JUST THE NEW PROJECTS.
12:16:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK FINISH
12:16:18PM SOMETHING UP.
12:16:26PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THIS REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION AND PROJECTS
12:16:32PM HAS THINGS THAT WE MAY WANT TO DO, BUT ARE MORE WISH LIST
12:16:36PM ITEMS, BUT NOT HAVING THE HOWARD AVENUE HERE DOESN'T MAKE
12:16:43PM SENSE.
12:16:44PM WHY DON'T WE HAVE THOSE PROJECTS THAT WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO

12:16:47PM NEED THE MONEY FOR, WHY AREN'T THEY ON HERE?
12:16:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVEN'T APPROVED HOWARD --
12:16:54PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE HAVEN'T APPROVED ANY OF THESE THINGS
12:16:57PM EITHER.
12:16:57PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HAVEN'T WE APPROVED -- HASN'T COUNCIL SAID
12:17:02PM THESE ARE PROJECTS --
12:17:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE WOULD LIKE TO PRIORITIZE THE FIRE
12:17:06PM STATIONS.
12:17:07PM UNFORTUNATELY, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING UNTIL THEY ARE MOVED.
12:17:13PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: AGAIN, I'M DOING MY BEST TO COMMUNICATE.
12:17:16PM I'LL USE THAT ANNEX AS AN EXAMPLE.
12:17:22PM COUNCIL HAS ALREADY APPROVED THE ANNEX.
12:17:25PM $5.3 MILLION, AND THAT WAS FOR DESIGN.
12:17:28PM AT THIS TIME, WE'RE NOT PREPARED TO BRING COUNCIL A DECISION
12:17:33PM PACKET ON MOVING ANY FURTHER WITH THAT PROJECT.
12:17:36PM THIS HAS SIMPLY BEEN FOR THE DESIGN.
12:17:38PM WE PAID OURSELVES BACK.
12:17:39PM IF WE DECIDE TO CONTINUE WITH THE ANNEX PROJECT, WE WOULD
12:17:44PM BRING COUNCIL A CONTRACT FOR CONSTRUCTION, BOND FINANCING
12:17:49PM PAPERWORK FOR THE FINANCING, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
12:17:54PM BUT THAT IS NOT THE ADMINISTRATION'S DESIRE AT THIS TIME,
12:17:59PM AND I WOULD SUBMIT THAT THE TOTALITY OF THE PROJECT HAS BEEN
12:18:02PM INCLUDED IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.
12:18:05PM HAD WE COME TODAY AND ASKED FOR A REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION
12:18:08PM OF $40 MILLION, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN -- WOULD HAVE EMPOWERED

12:18:13PM US TO SPEND UP TO $40 MILLION.
12:18:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YES.
12:18:16PM AGAIN, I THINK THAT'S MY CONCERN -- THE CHIEF STOOD UP AND
12:18:22PM BASICALLY SAID WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS.
12:18:23PM SO WHILE YOU SAY WE HAVEN'T DECIDED TO GO FORWARD, WE'RE
12:18:28PM GOING FORWARD.
12:18:29PM THE ADMINISTRATION HAS OR AT LEAST THE CHIEF HAS MADE IT
12:18:32PM CLEAR THIS IS A PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO BE GOING FORWARD.
12:18:35PM SO, AGAIN, I --
12:18:40PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU.
12:18:42PM I DON'T DISAGREE WITH ANYTHING YOU SAID BUT IT CAN ONLY GO
12:18:45PM FORWARD IF COUNCIL APPROVES IT.
12:18:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS THE SAME THING FOR ALL OF THESE
12:18:49PM PROJECTS.
12:18:50PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: YES, MA'AM.
12:18:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO GET BACK TO THE RESOLUTIONS.
12:19:00PM I THINK YOUR GOAL BASED ON WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS TO
12:19:05PM SIMPLIFY, KEEP EVERYTHING IN ONE PLACE AND ALSO PROBABLY
12:19:08PM PROVIDE TRANSPARENCY.
12:19:10PM SO I APPRECIATE THAT.
12:19:11PM IT MAKES IT MORE COMPLICATED HAVING THESE OTHER RESOLUTIONS,
12:19:16PM BUT I THINK FOR THE SAKE OF BEING ABLE TO APPROVE THINGS,
12:19:20PM IT'S BETTER NOT TO HAVE US GO BACK AND VOTE FOR THINGS IN
12:19:25PM THE PAST.
12:19:25PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: UNDERSTOOD.

12:19:27PM APPRECIATE THAT.
12:19:28PM >>BILL CARLSON: MAKES IT MORE COMPLICATED.
12:19:30PM SHOULD HAVE A TOTAL LIST, PROBABLY WILL BE IN THE SUMMARY OR
12:19:34PM RIDE ALONG INSTEAD OF BEING PART OF THE RESOLUTION.
12:19:35PM IF YOU COULD GET A RESOLUTION WITH JUST THE NEW ONES,
12:19:40PM ESPECIALLY IF WE COULD DO ONE BY ONE, I WOULD BE WILLING TO
12:19:45PM APPROVE THAT.
12:19:46PM I WOULD RATHER APPROVE PROJECT BY PROJECT, ADD TO THE LIST,
12:19:49PM INSTEAD OF REAFFIRM THE EXISTING LIST.
12:19:54PM IN THE CURRENT RESOLUTION, IT HAS THE EXISTING PROJECTS.
12:19:57PM IT IS AN ADDENDUM BUT APPEARS THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN THAT
12:20:00PM WE'RE REAFFIRMING THOSE.
12:20:02PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: UNDERSTOOD.
12:20:03PM I ABSOLUTELY SEE THAT PERSPECTIVE.
12:20:05PM THAT WAS NOT THE INTENT, OF COURSE.
12:20:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: SHOULD WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CONTINUE
12:20:09PM THIS?
12:20:11PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION.
12:20:12PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GOOD TIME AND GOOD DATE?
12:20:14PM SOMEBODY GRAB ME A DATE.
12:20:17PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
12:20:18PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: NOT LONG.
12:20:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: OCTOBER 6?
12:20:20PM HEAR A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM 69 TO OCTOBER 6, 2025.
12:20:26PM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.

12:20:28PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:20:35PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
12:20:40PM OPPOSED?
12:20:40PM I'M SORRY.
12:20:44PM OCTOBER 9.
12:20:45PM DO THAT AGAIN.
12:20:47PM MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS TO OCTOBER 9.
12:20:49PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
12:20:50PM OPPOSED?
12:20:51PM AYES HAVE IT.
12:20:58PM >>DENNIS ROGERO: GOOD FOR ME.
12:20:59PM GOOD FOR COUNCIL?
12:21:00PM THANK YOU, COUNCIL.
12:21:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
12:21:03PM APPRECIATE IT.
12:21:04PM WE HAVE ONE OTHER ITEM 80, RIGHT?
12:21:09PM SORRY, 74.
12:21:16PM 74.
12:21:17PM ITEM 74.
12:21:25PM STORMWATER.
12:21:33PM >>BRANDON CAMPBELL: BRANDON CAMPBELL, INTERIM DIRECTOR OF
12:21:34PM THE MOBILITY DEPARTMENT.
12:21:36PM I'M HERE TO INTRODUCE OUR TEAM TO PRESENT AN UPDATE ON THE
12:21:42PM STORMWATER MASTER PLANNING EFFORT.
12:21:44PM WE HAVE WITH US THIS AFTERNOON FROM APPLIED SCIENCES ELIE

12:21:47PM ARAJ AND TAYLOR LANKFORD.
12:21:51PM THEY'LL GO THROUGH A PowerPoint THAT WAS UPLOADED TO
12:21:54PM OnBase PREVIOUSLY, AND THEN YUAN LI, OUR STORMWATER
12:22:02PM ENGINEERING MANAGER, HAS A LITTLE BIT OF FOLLOW-UP TO THEIR
12:22:03PM PRESENTATION AS WELL.
12:22:03PM I'LL INVITE ELIE UP TO START.
12:22:05PM >>LUIS VIERA: AT 12:30, I HAVE TO STEP OUTSIDE FOR A
12:22:08PM CITY-RELATED CALL ON THE BUDGET.
12:22:10PM I WILL BE BACK.
12:22:12PM SHOULDN'T TAKE MORE THAN 15 MINUTES.
12:22:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF WE'RE NOT HERE, WE WILL LEAVE WITHOUT
12:22:18PM YOU.
12:22:18PM >> YUAN LI, STORMWATER ENGINEER MANAGER.
12:22:28PM WE ARE GLAD TO BE BACK TO REPORT THE STATUS OF CITYWIDE
12:22:32PM WATERSHED MASTER PLAN.
12:22:33PM THE PROGRESS WE MADE SINCE THE WORKSHOP IN MAY.
12:22:38PM IT WAS PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL FOR THE FIRST TIME.
12:22:43PM AND IN ADDITION, WE WANT TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF THE
12:22:46PM COASTAL MASTER PLAN THAT IS A REGIONAL PLANNING EFFORT LED
12:22:52PM BY THE TAMPA BAY REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL.
12:22:56PM THIS TOPIC WAS BROUGHT UP AT THE STORMWATER WORKSHOP A
12:23:02PM COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO BECAUSE IT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
12:23:06PM FLORIDA IS THE FIRST -- REGIONAL FLOOD ADOPTION PLAN AND
12:23:12PM CRITICAL SUPPLEMENT TO THE CITY PROGRAM.
12:23:14PM WITH THAT, THE TEAM IS HERE TODAY TO REPORT THE QUARTERLY

12:23:21PM UPDATE FOR THE MASTER PLAN.
12:23:26PM >> GOOD MORNING.
12:23:26PM ELIE ARAJ.
12:23:28PM APPLIED SKINS.
12:23:29PM THANK YOU FOR INVITING US BACK HERE.
12:23:31PM WE HAVE A PRESENTATION HERE FOR YOU TODAY, IF SOMEBODY CAN
12:23:33PM PUT IT UP.
12:23:35PM THIS IS OUR SECOND QUARTERLY UPDATE.
12:23:40PM WE'RE GOING TO HAVE BASICALLY A QUICK -- BASICALLY, DO A
12:23:47PM QUICK RECAP, GIVE YOU SOME FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE GOTTEN SINCE
12:23:50PM THE LAST PRESENTATION THAT WE'VE HAD AND THEN GIVE YOU AN
12:23:53PM UPDATE WHERE THE PROGRAM IS.
12:23:55PM QUICKLY, THIS IS OUR TEAM.
12:23:57PM WE INTRODUCED OURSELVES THE LAST TIME.
12:23:59PM I'M PRESIDENT OF APPLIED SCIENCES.
12:24:02PM ALSO MARK HAMMOND, FORMER EXECUTIVE WITH S.W.F.W.M.D., AND
12:24:07PM TAYLOR LANKFORD, OUR MODELING TEAM AND IS OUR LEAD FOR THE
12:24:13PM WATER RESOURCES.
12:24:16PM QUICKLY, AGAIN, WE TALKED LAST TIME ABOUT HOW THIS MASTER
12:24:19PM PLANNING EFFORT FITS INTO THE CONTINUUM OF THE STORMWATER
12:24:22PM PROJECT.
12:24:22PM IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO KEEP THAT IN MIND BECAUSE THIS IS
12:24:25PM WHERE A LOT OF THE PROJECTS FOR THE CITY ARE GOING TO COME
12:24:27PM FROM THAT DEAL DIRECTLY WITH STORMWATER.
12:24:30PM WE HAVE THE 46 BASINS THAT WE DISCUSSED LAST TIME.

12:24:33PM IT'S ACTUALLY 47.
12:24:34PM ONE OF THEM WAS BROKEN INTO TWO.
12:24:37PM AND WE -- VARIOUS DISTRICTS WITH THE CITY.
12:24:41PM THIS IS THE LIST OF THE BASINS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY STUDIED
12:24:49PM BEFORE WE STARTED OUR EFFORT.
12:24:51PM AND THIS IS THE LIST OF THE BASINS THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY
12:24:55PM STUDYING RIGHT NOW TO FILL IN THE GAPS, GIVING PRIORITY TO
12:24:58PM THOSE BASINS THAT NEEDED IMMEDIATE ATTENTION.
12:25:02PM WE HAVE A NUMBER OF THEM HERE THAT YOU SEE GOING.
12:25:05PM AND ALSO SERVES AS A QUICK REMINDER THAT WE HAVE SIX
12:25:08PM CONSULTANTS THAT ARE WORKING ON THIS EFFORT LED BE APPLIED
12:25:11PM SCIENCES AND THE LIST THAT YOU SEE HERE WORKING ON THE
12:25:14PM VARIOUS BASINS THAT WE SHARED WITH YOU LAST TIME WITH THE
12:25:17PM PROPOSED COMPLETION DATE FOR THE FLOODPLAINS.
12:25:21PM SINCE THE LAST TIME THE CITY SENT OUT A MAIL-OUT ASKING FOR
12:25:27PM FEEDBACK, PICTURES, DOCUMENTATION, PHOTOS OF THE FLOODING
12:25:30PM THAT OCCURRED AND RECEIVED OVER 2,000 PHOTOS FROM THE
12:25:34PM VARIOUS RESIDENTS IN THESE BASINS AND THOSE PHOTOS AND
12:25:38PM DOCUMENTATION ARE STILL TRICKLING IN.
12:25:40PM I'LL SHARE WITH YOU SOME OF THE ONES -- SOME OF THE BASINS
12:25:44PM THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.
12:25:46PM THIS IS IN THE EL PRADO BASIN.
12:25:48PM THOSE PICTURES ARE LEMON STREET.
12:25:53PM AGAIN, THOSE WERE MOSTLY FROM MILTON AND HELENE.
12:25:57PM YOU SEE THE DATES ON THE BOTTOM.

12:25:59PM NORTH RIVER WEST.
12:26:03PM YBOR CITY.
12:26:06PM AND NORTH RIVER EAST.
12:26:11PM ALSO, KEEP IN MIND THAT PART OF THE REASON WHY WE ASK FOR
12:26:14PM THIS PHOTO DOCUMENTATION IS WE USE THIS INFORMATION TO
12:26:17PM VALIDATE, CALIBRATE, VERIFY A LOT OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE
12:26:20PM ALREADY HAVE AS WE'RE RUNNING THE MODELS IN THESE VARIOUS
12:26:23PM BASINS.
12:26:25PM THERE HAS BEEN IN THE FIELD DATA COLLECTION, SURVEYING,
12:26:28PM ASSESSMENT OF THE CONNECTIVITY.
12:26:31PM THESE ARE PICTURES OF TAYLOR IN PALMETTO BEACH.
12:26:38PM EL PRADO OUTFALL.
12:26:40PM CONCORDIA PARK OUTFALL INFORMATION COLLECTED ON THE
12:26:43PM STORMWATER INVENTORY.
12:26:45PM THE CITY HAD A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION ALREADY.
12:26:47PM OUR SITE VISITS WOULD CONFIRM THE CONDITION, ADDING ANY NEW
12:26:53PM ASSETS, POINTING OUT ANYTHING THAT NEEDED MAINTENANCE,
12:26:56PM ET CETERA.
12:26:58PM THAT ALL HAPPENS DURING THE SITE VISITS.
12:27:00PM WE ARE ALSO IMPLEMENTING, AS WE MENTIONED LAST TIME, A
12:27:03PM COMPONENT TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION SEA LEVEL RISE INTO THE
12:27:07PM FUTURE PROJECTS.
12:27:08PM THIS IS SOME OF THE ONGOING MODELING EFFORTS ON 18th
12:27:12PM STREET, PALMETTO BEACH.
12:27:16PM THE ENCORE CHANNELSIDE AREA, AND, AGAIN, THE EL PRADO

12:27:20PM OUTFALL THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER.
12:27:22PM THIS IS THE LIST OF THE PROJECTS OR THE BASINS THAT WE'RE
12:27:26PM GOING TO BE LOOKING AT NEXT.
12:27:27PM AND WE STARTED A LINK PUBLICLY FACING THAT SUMMARIZES THE
12:27:36PM EFFORTS ON EACH ONE OF THE BASINS WHERE THE PUBLIC CAN GO,
12:27:39PM LOOK AT THE INVENTORY, LOOK AT THE STATUS, AND EVEN GIVE US
12:27:45PM FEEDBACK WHERE THEY CAN.
12:27:46PM FROM A SCHEDULE PERSPECTIVE, SINCE THE LAST TIME WE MET,
12:27:51PM WE'VE COMPLETED THE DATA COLLECTION.
12:27:53PM WE'RE ON SCHEDULE FOR THE FEBRUARY 2026 FOR THE EXISTING
12:27:57PM FLOODPLAINS IN GROUP ONE.
12:27:59PM JUNE 2026 FOR THE EXISTING FLOODPLAINS FOR GROUP TWO.
12:28:03PM THE PROJECTS FOR GROUP ONE WILL BE SLATED TO BE DEVELOPED BY
12:28:07PM AUGUST 2026 AND DECEMBER 2026 FOR THE REST OF THE GROUP.
12:28:12PM THE FINAL REPORT IS EXPECTED IN 2027, AND, AGAIN, THE BUDGET
12:28:16PM THAT WE MENTIONED LAST TIME IS THE $5 MILLION FOR THE
12:28:19PM PROGRAM.
12:28:20PM ALSO SINCE THE LAST TIME WE MET, THE CITY MET WITH OPTE AND
12:28:27PM OTHER FOLKS TO LOOK AT SOME ADVANCED MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS FOR
12:28:31PM OUTFALLS, INTELLIGENT SYSTEMS, CLOUD BASED.
12:28:36PM AND AS I MENTIONED LAST TIME, THOSE WERE SUCCESSFULLY USED
12:28:40PM IN OTHER PARTS IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA AND LOOKING TO SEE HOW
12:28:45PM WE CAN IMPLEMENT THEM IN THIS PROGRAM.
12:28:46PM WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT VARIOUS GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE
12:28:49PM AREA.

12:28:50PM THESE PICTURES ARE FROM PREVIOUS PROJECTS WE'VE DONE WHERE
12:28:54PM WE HAVE PERVIOUS PAVERS, LOAD BEARING FOR THE PARKING.
12:28:58PM NON LOAD BEARING FOR THE SIDEWALK.
12:29:01PM TREE WELLS, PERVIOUS CONCRETE ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE FOR
12:29:05PM 5th STREET AND GREEN GUTTERS.
12:29:07PM THOSE ARE SOME TEMPLATES THAT WE'VE DONE FOR THE CITY OF
12:29:12PM ST. PETE AND PINELLAS COUNTY.
12:29:13PM WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THIS RIGHT NOW IS WITH THE NEW
12:29:15PM STORMWATER RULE, THEY ARE ACTUALLY ENCOURAGING THE
12:29:19PM IMPLEMENTATION OF LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT OR GREEN
12:29:23PM INFRASTRUCTURE TO HELP WITH IMPLEMENTING THE RULE AND BEING
12:29:27PM IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE RULE.
12:29:28PM WE'RE VERY MUCH AWARE OF THAT AND TAKING THAT INTO
12:29:31PM CONSIDERATION AS WE ARE PROVIDING THE PROJECTS.
12:29:33PM FINALLY, THE LAST SLIDE WE HAVE IS WHAT WE MENTIONED LAST
12:29:36PM TIME, THIS WILL HELP US GET A LOWER RATING FOR THE CRS WHICH
12:29:43PM MEANS A BIGGER DISCOUNT ON FLOOD INSURANCE.
12:29:46PM WITH THAT, WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY
12:29:49PM HAVE.
12:29:50PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DOES COUNCIL HAVE QUESTIONS?
12:29:51PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:29:54PM >>BILL CARLSON: THE RESEARCH THAT I'VE DONE ON STORMWATER
12:30:00PM ALWAYS GETS BACK TO WHAT YOU SHOWED TOWARD THE END, WHICH IS
12:30:04PM TRYING TO INSTALL PERVIOUS PAVEMENT, SIDEWALKS, GREEN AREAS.
12:30:10PM IN YOUR ANALYSIS WHEN YOU'RE FINISHED, WILL YOU BE ABLE TO

12:30:14PM ESTIMATE HOW MUCH AN IMPACT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HAVE BY
12:30:18PM IMPLEMENTING THAT AND/OR DO YOU KNOW FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE
12:30:20PM WHAT PERCENTAGE IMPACT IT WOULD HAVE?
12:30:22PM IS IT LIKE 5% IMPACT OR 50% IMPACT?
12:30:26PM IT SEEMS TO BE A MAJOR RECOMMENDATION OF MODERN STORMWATER
12:30:29PM MANAGEMENT.
12:30:32PM >> RIGHT.
12:30:32PM WITHOUT GETTING TOO TECHNICAL, ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO
12:30:35PM ANALYZE IS WHAT WE CALL DIRECTLY CONNECTED IMPERVIOUS AREA,
12:30:38PM VERSUS NOT DIRECTLY CONNECTED.
12:30:40PM SO DIRECTLY CONNECTED THINKING ABOUT A SPOUT COMING DOWN
12:30:43PM FROM THE ROOF, HITTING YOUR DRIVEWAY AND STRAIGHT TO THE
12:30:46PM ROAD.
12:30:47PM WHEN YOU DISCONNECT THAT, YOU SEND IT TO THE GRASS FIRST AND
12:30:51PM THEN TO THE DRIVEWAY.
12:30:52PM THIS IS ONE WAY TO KIND OF THINK OF THAT.
12:30:55PM OUR MODELING DOES TAKE THE CIA -- INTO CONSIDERATION.
12:31:02PM HOWEVER, AT THE PROJECT LEVEL, WHEN WE GET TO THE PROJECT
12:31:06PM LEVEL IS WHEN WE CAN TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE GREEN
12:31:09PM INFRASTRUCTURE AND HOW TO IMPLEMENT IT ACTUALLY IN THE FINAL
12:31:12PM DESIGN AND FINAL SOLUTIONS.
12:31:13PM >>BILL CARLSON: IN YOUR ANALYSIS, IF YOU HAVE SYSTEMIC
12:31:16PM RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE CAN PUT IN PLACE OF POLICIES LIKE
12:31:18PM THAT, THAT YOU SEE IN OTHER CITIES, LIKE INCENTIVES FOR
12:31:22PM PEOPLE TO USE PERVIOUS PAVEMENT IN THEIR YARDS OR WHATEVER,

12:31:27PM THEN PLEASE LET US KNOW BECAUSE WE CAN START IMPLEMENTING
12:31:29PM THAT RIGHT AWAY.
12:31:32PM ALSO, WILL YOUR ANALYSIS SHOW THE CITY IS ON A SEVEN-YEAR
12:31:38PM CYCLE NOW TO DO MAINTENANCE.
12:31:39PM SO THERE ARE AREAS PRESUMABLY THAT WON'T HAVE MAINTENANCE
12:31:42PM FOR STILL MAYBE SIX MORE YEARS, BUT ALSO AREAS THAT WE CAN
12:31:45PM SEE DIDN'T HAVE MAINTENANCE IN PRIOR SEVEN OR TEN YEARS AT
12:31:50PM LEAST.
12:31:51PM WILL YOUR ANALYSIS TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHAT THE MODELING WITH
12:31:56PM AND WITHOUT THE MAINTENANCE SO WE CAN SEE WHAT THE IMPACT OF
12:31:59PM LACK OF MAINTENANCE IS AND OR SYSTEMS?
12:32:02PM THERE IS A BALANCE WE'VE GOT TO FIND BETWEEN HOW FAST DO WE
12:32:09PM DO THE MAINTENANCE, IS SEVEN YEARS ACCEPTABLE?
12:32:11PM SHOULD INCREASE THE BUDGET?
12:32:12PM DO WE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO DO IT?
12:32:15PM VERSUS THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE TO PUT IN.
12:32:19PM >> THE SIMPLE ANSWER IS, YES, WHEN WE GO OUT IN THE FIELD
12:32:23PM AND WE SHOWED SOME OF THE FOLKS HOW THEY ARE DOING THE DATA
12:32:25PM COLLECTION, WE DO MAKE A NOTE OR FIND OUT WHICH AREAS MAY
12:32:30PM NEED MAINTENANCE, WHICH AREAS MAY NOT NEED MAINTENANCE.
12:32:33PM AND THAT INFORMATION IS SHARED.
12:32:34PM AS YOU SAW IN THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT, WE STARTED WITH A
12:32:38PM FIELD INVESTIGATION AND THEN MODELING AND THEN WE GO ON WITH
12:32:41PM THE MAINTENANCE AT THE ENDS.
12:32:43PM THE ACTUAL CYCLE OF MAINTENANCE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE

12:32:46PM COMPLICATED THAN THAT, BECAUSE IT'S DEPENDENT, AS WE KNOW,
12:32:49PM ON THE RESOURCES, ON WHERE THE ACTUAL STRUCTURES ARE AND THE
12:32:56PM ACCESS TO THEM AND ALL THAT.
12:32:58PM BUT OUR MODELING WILL ACTUALLY HELP THE CITY IN IDENTIFYING
12:33:02PM THE AREAS THAT DO ACTUALLY NEED MORE MAINTENANCE WITHIN
12:33:06PM THOSE BASINS.
12:33:11PM >> YUAN LI, STORMWATER MANAGER.
12:33:16PM THE MODELING PART, ASSUMING THE SYSTEM IS WELL MAINTAINED.
12:33:21PM HOWEVER, WANTED TO LET THE COUNCIL AND PUBLIC KNOW,
12:33:25PM ENGINEERS WORKING ON THE STUDIES DO GO OUT TO VERIFY THE
12:33:30PM INFORMATION AND COLLECT ADDITIONAL DATA AND IDENTIFY
12:33:35PM IMMEDIATE MAINTENANCE NEEDS AND COME BACK TO THE CITY SO
12:33:37PM THAT WE CAN GENERATE WORK ORDERS.
12:33:40PM BUT MODELING ITSELF ASSUME ALL THE SYSTEMS ARE FUNCTIONING
12:33:44PM PROPERLY.
12:33:46PM SO THAT'S WHY, IF WE IDENTIFY THE FLOOD RISKS, THERE WILL BE
12:33:50PM SOME CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS PROPOSED BECAUSE ASSUMING
12:33:54PM ALL THE SYSTEMS ARE WELL MAINTAINED.
12:33:58PM >>BILL CARLSON: THANK YOU.
12:33:58PM THE OTHER THING WHILE YOU'RE UP THERE AND MAYBE BRANDON WILL
12:34:02PM WANT TO ANSWER THIS.
12:34:04PM YUAN, WHEN WE WENT TO THE COUNTY'S PUBLIC HEARING,
12:34:07PM COUNCILMAN VIERA MADE A MOTION TO HAVE THE CITY PARTNER WITH
12:34:10PM THE COUNTY, I THINK BLACK & VEATCH IS DOING THE ANALYSIS,
12:34:13PM BUT WHEN WE WENT TO THAT PUBLIC MEETING A COUPLE OF MONTHS

12:34:16PM AGO, CONSTITUENTS WERE ASKING BLACK & VEATCH WHAT ABOUT MY
12:34:21PM NEIGHBORHOODS.
12:34:21PM BLACK & VEATCH SAID, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THE CITY DID
12:34:26PM NOT PROVIDE ALL THE DATA THAT THEY NEEDED TO DO THE
12:34:28PM ANALYSIS.
12:34:29PM DO YOU KNOW IF THE CITY, I KNOW IT IS A DIFFERENT ANALYSIS,
12:34:32PM BUT THEY ARE KIND OF WORKING SIDE BY SIDE.
12:34:36PM HAS THAT DATA BEEN GIVEN TO BLACK & VEATCH?
12:34:39PM >> YES.
12:34:39PM PROVIDED TO BLACK & VEATCH AND COUNTY.
12:34:44PM BLACK & VEATCH MADE THEIR FINAL REPORT READY ALREADY BACK
12:34:50PM EARLY THIS MONTH, PRESENTED TO COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS
12:34:57PM LATE JULY.
12:34:58PM THE FINAL REPORT IS READY.
12:35:00PM STAFF GOT US A FINAL REPORT ALREADY.
12:35:03PM THE COUNTY IS FORMING A WORKING GROUP, INCLUDING THE COUNTY,
12:35:09PM S.W.F.W.M.D. AND CITY OF TEMPLE TERRACE, PLANT CITY AND
12:35:15PM TAMPA.
12:35:15PM WE ARE AWAITING THE VERY FIRST GROUP TO DISCUSS FURTHER
12:35:21PM ACTION ITEMS.
12:35:22PM >>BILL CARLSON: HAVE WE ALREADY SCHEDULED BLACK & VEATCH TO
12:35:25PM COME WITH STAFF?
12:35:26PM >> NO, WE NEED TO DO THAT.
12:35:28PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHEN WOULD YOU RECOMMEND WE SET THAT UP?
12:35:31PM >> IT'S UP TO THE COUNCIL.

12:35:38PM >>BILL CARLSON: WOULD YOU LIKE TO PRESENT WITH THEM OR JUST
12:35:40PM HAVE THEM PRESENT?
12:35:41PM >> WE CAN CHECK.
12:35:42PM WE CAN ARRANGE WITH BLACK & VEATCH AND TALKING WITH THE
12:35:46PM COUNTY.
12:35:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: UNFORTUNATELY, NOVEMBER 6 SEEMS TO BE THE
12:35:49PM FIRST THING THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE.
12:35:53PM >>BILL CARLSON: MOTION FOR NOVEMBER 6 TO HAVE BLACK & VEATCH
12:35:57PM PRESENT THE COUNTY'S MASTER STORMWATER PLAN WITH CITY
12:36:03PM STORMWATER STAFF AVAILABLE.
12:36:08PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I DON'T THINK IT WAS A MASTER PLAN.
12:36:12PM >> POST-HURRICANE REGIONAL STORMWATER ASSESSMENT.
12:36:15PM THEY DO HAVE ASSESSMENT REPORT.
12:36:26PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
12:36:31PM >>LYNN HURTAK: YOU ARE A STEP AHEAD.
12:36:33PM NOVEMBER 20 TO COME BACK WITH THIS PLAN.
12:36:37PM MAYBE A NICE SECONDARY THING.
12:36:40PM >>BILL CARLSON: THAT WAY ALL IN ONE DAY.
12:36:42PM >>LYNN HURTAK: AND WE HAVE THE MONTHLY IN-PERSON UPDATE.
12:36:45PM IT WILL BE A STORMWATER DAY.
12:36:49PM >> ONE MORE THING I WANT TO ADD, IN SUMMARY, WE COMPLETED
12:36:55PM THE FIRST ROUND OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
12:36:57PM SO GETTING ALL THE DOCUMENTATION.
12:36:59PM WE WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK ALL THE RESIDENTS
12:37:04PM FOR SHARING ALL THE DOCUMENTATION.

12:37:06PM IT WILL PROVIDE VALUABLE INFORMATION, IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF
12:37:11PM OUR STUDY BUT ALSO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF OUR OWN WORK.
12:37:15PM AND LOOKING AHEAD, AROUND THE NOVEMBER TIME AND WE
12:37:20PM ANTICIPATE A NUMBER OF WATERSHED MODELING GOING TO BE RAMPED
12:37:24PM UP, PUBLIC FOR THE SECOND ROUND TO SHARE THE FLOOD RISKS BY
12:37:30PM HOSTING ALL THOSE PUBLIC MEETINGS.
12:37:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LET'S HOPE WE DON'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL
12:37:37PM INFORMATION TO ADD, THE HURRICANE SEASON.
12:37:40PM >>LYNN HURTAK: COMPLETE THE NAME --
12:37:43PM >> I THINK IT IS CALLED POST HURRICANE REGIONAL STORMWATER
12:37:47PM ASSESSMENT.
12:37:48PM >>LYNN HURTAK: POST HURRICANE REGIONAL STORMWATER
12:37:51PM ASSESSMENT.
12:37:51PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:37:53PM A SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO ADD THAT AS
12:37:58PM PREVIOUSLY STATED REPORT TO THE NOVEMBER 20 STORMWATER
12:38:03PM UPDATE.
12:38:05PM MR. SHELBY.
12:38:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: AGAIN, THE NAME OF THE COMPANY THAT'S GOING
12:38:09PM TO PROVIDE IS BLACK & VEATCH.
12:38:12PM AND WILL YOUR OFFICE THEN ARRANGE FOR THAT INVITATION FOR
12:38:16PM THE DATE?
12:38:19PM >> NOVEMBER 20.
12:38:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU'LL REACH OUT TO THEM.
12:38:23PM >>BILL CARLSON: WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS?

12:38:25PM HAVE THEM PRESENT JUST BEFORE THE CITY?
12:38:28PM THAT WAY YOU HAVE TIME TO RESPOND OR REFLECT ON WHAT THEY
12:38:31PM SAID ON THAT DATE.
12:38:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOUR REQUEST IS THAT THE REPORT ON THE
12:38:35PM 20th IT WILL BE THAT COMPANY THAT BLACK & VEATCH COMPANY
12:38:39PM WILL DO THE FIRST PRESENTATION, FOLLOWED BY CITY OF TAMPA
12:38:44PM STORMWATER.
12:38:45PM >>BILL CARLSON: YEAH.
12:38:45PM SEPARATE PRESENTATION.
12:38:46PM THAT WAY THEY CAN REFLECT ON WHATEVER WAS PRESENTED.
12:38:49PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WE HAVE THE MOTION AS STATED FOR NOVEMBER
12:38:51PM 20 FOR THAT TO COME BACK.
12:38:53PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:38:55PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:38:56PM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION?
12:38:57PM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA, YOU HAD WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING.
12:39:00PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR DOING WHAT
12:39:02PM YOU'VE DONE.
12:39:03PM I KNOW THIS IS APPLIED SCIENCE, BUT WITHIN THAT SCIENCE,
12:39:06PM THERE IS AN AREA THAT NO ONE KNOWS.
12:39:08PM THAT IS THE UNCERTAIN OF WHAT'S COMING OR NOT COMING, I
12:39:12PM SHOULD SAY.
12:39:13PM BECAUSE UP TO NOW WE'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE THAT NOTHING HAS
12:39:17PM HIT ANY PART OF THE UNITED STATES.
12:39:19PM IT TURNED RIGHT.

12:39:21PM I AM VERY CONCERNED, THE QUESTION WOULD BE THIS, IF
12:39:24PM SOMETHING LIKE HAPPENED LAST YEAR WAS TO COME, WHERE DO YOU
12:39:29PM THINK WE'D BE AT WITH ALL THE REPAIRS AND THINGS THAT WE'VE
12:39:32PM DONE?
12:39:32PM >> THAT WOULD BE THE NEXT TOPIC.
12:39:34PM IF WE CAN GO BACK TO THE PRESENTATION.
12:39:36PM WE DO WANT TO SHARE SOMETHING REGARDING A PARALLEL REGIONAL
12:39:41PM EFFORT BEING LED BY THE TAMPA BAY REGIONAL PLANNING COUNCIL.
12:39:44PM CAN WE GO BACK?
12:39:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: LET ME DISPOSE OF THIS ONE RESOLUTION
12:39:50PM FIRST BEFORE WE GET TOO CAUGHT UP IN THIS.
12:39:53PM MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:39:54PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO TO HAVE THE BLACK & VEATCH
12:39:59PM COMPANY COME AND DO A PRESENTATION FOLLOWED BY CITY OF TAMPA
12:40:02PM PRESENTATION ON NOVEMBER 20, 2025.
12:40:04PM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
12:40:05PM OPPOSED?
12:40:06PM AYES HAVE IT UNANIMOUSLY.
12:40:07PM OKAY.
12:40:10PM GO AHEAD.
12:40:10PM >> YUAN LI, STORMWATER ENGINEER MANAGER.
12:40:30PM THIS ONE IS REALLY DRIVEN BY ALL THE COASTAL COMMUNITIES.
12:40:36PM LIKE WE SAID, TAMPA IS NOT ALONE.
12:40:40PM INCREASING STRESS BY SEA LEVEL RISE, TIDAL FLOODING AND --
12:40:52PM STORM SURGE.

12:40:52PM THAT'S WHY THE STUDY WAS REALLY ADDRESS ALL THE COMMUNITY'S
12:40:57PM NEEDS.
12:40:59PM IT COVERS SEVEN COUNTIES ON THE WEST COAST FROM -- TO
12:41:05PM SARASOTA AND IMPACTING APPROXIMATELY MORE THAN 4 MILLION
12:41:09PM RESIDENTS.
12:41:09PM THIS STUDY WAS KICKED OFF, JUST THREE MONTHS AGO.
12:41:18PM PRETTY RECENT.
12:41:20PM IT HAS FOUR PHASES.
12:41:21PM COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND DATA COLLECTION AND THE RISK
12:41:26PM ASSESSMENT, AND THEN THE PROJECT DEVELOPMENT AND
12:41:31PM PRIORITIZATION AND THE FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS.
12:41:34PM THERE ARE TWO TRACKS, TECHNICAL TRACK AND ALSO COMMUNITY
12:41:38PM ENGAGEMENT TRACK.
12:41:39PM BOTH GROUPS ARE MEETING MONTHLY OR EVERY OTHER MONTH, AND
12:41:46PM THE CITY RESILIENCE OFFICE AND STORMWATER TEAM ARE BOTH
12:41:49PM INVOLVED IN THIS ONE.
12:41:50PM AND WE ARE HAPPY TO PROVIDE LIKE PERIODICAL UPDATE AND GO
12:41:57PM INTO QUARTERLY UPDATE OF THE MASTER PLAN BECAUSE THIS IS A
12:42:01PM HIGHLY RELEVANT TOPIC.
12:42:07PM COASTAL COMMUNITIES.
12:42:08PM WITH THAT, ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
12:42:11PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK THAT'S GOOD.
12:42:12PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION TODAY.
12:42:16PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU.
12:42:18PM I THINK THIS WAS A REALLY GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW TO UPDATE US

12:42:22PM ON HOW A PROJECT IS GOING.
12:42:24PM I REALLY DID APPRECIATE THE VISUALS WERE GREAT.
12:42:28PM IT WAS VERY CLEAR WHAT WAS GOING ON.
12:42:30PM I REALLY LIKED IT.
12:42:31PM JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH.
12:42:34PM THE PUBLIC COULD DEFINITELY FOLLOW THIS AND WE REALLY DO
12:42:36PM APPRECIATE IT.
12:42:37PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
12:42:37PM THAT CONCLUDES OUR BUSINESS FOR THE DAY.
12:42:40PM WE'RE INTO NEW BUSINESS.
12:42:41PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON.
12:42:42PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK?
12:42:44PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'VE GOT A BIT.
12:42:46PM AGENDA REVIEW -- NEVER MIND.
12:42:49PM I ALREADY DID THAT ONE.
12:42:51PM A MOTION TO RECOGNIZE THE CITY OF TAMPA PURCHASING
12:42:55PM DEPARTMENT FOR WINNING YET ANOTHER AWARD.
12:42:58PM THE 2025 ANNUAL ACHIEVEMENT OF EXCELLENCE IN PROCUREMENT
12:43:02PM AWARD FOR THE NATIONAL PROCUREMENT INSTITUTE.
12:43:05PM THIS IS THEIR 19th CONSECUTIVE YEAR WINNING THIS AWARD.
12:43:09PM I WOULD LIKE TO ADD INTO THE AGENDA ON SEPTEMBER 18, 2025,
12:43:12PM REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING UNDER CEREMONIAL ACTIVITY.
12:43:15PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:43:17PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:43:18PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

12:43:21PM OPPOSED?
12:43:21PM AYES HAVE IT.
12:43:22PM >>LYNN HURTAK: NEXT, I DID SAY I WOULD WORK ON THE BUDGET
12:43:25PM REVIEW COMMITTEE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE STUDY FOR THE FEES.
12:43:30PM WELL, GOOD NEWS.
12:43:33PM WE HAVE KIND OF ALREADY DONE THAT.
12:43:35PM I HAVE E-MAILS WITH THE EXPECTED DATES OF COMPLETION FOR THE
12:43:40PM FEE STUDIES THAT ARE REQUESTED BY THE BUDGET REVIEW
12:43:45PM COMMITTEE THIS MORNING.
12:43:46PM I WILL SHARE THE E-MAILS WITH EACH COUNCIL MEMBER AND
12:43:49PM MS. KOPESKY SO SHE CAN PRESENT THE INFORMATION TO THE
12:43:52PM CITIZEN BUDGET ADVISORY COMMITTEE AT THEIR MEETING TOMORROW.
12:43:55PM BASICALLY, THE MOBILITY FEE TOPIC WILL BE ON THE SEPTEMBER
12:44:00PM 25 AND OCTOBER 30th COUNCIL WORKSHOPS.
12:44:03PM DEVELOPMENT GROWTH AND MANAGEMENT FEE STUDY IS SCHEDULED TO
12:44:08PM BE DELIVERED ON NOVEMBER 1st.
12:44:11PM I'M SORRY.
12:44:11PM STAFF ANTICIPATES RETURNING TO CITY COUNCIL FOR PRESENTATION
12:44:14PM DECEMBER 2025.
12:44:15PM GOOD NEWS IS, WE ARE ON OUR WAY TO ALL THREE OF THOSE
12:44:20PM STUDIES BEING PUT FORWARD.
12:44:23PM ADDITIONALLY, WANTED -- WAIT, THERE'S MORE.
12:44:27PM I WANTED TO ADDRESS THE MEMO THAT YOU ALL RECEIVED FROM THE
12:44:36PM ADMINISTRATION AND HART TALKING ABOUT THE PRIORITIZATION OF
12:44:42PM THE STREETCAR VERSUS BUS FUNDING.

12:44:44PM AND I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A MEETING WITH THE
12:44:48PM ADMINISTRATION ON WEDNESDAY, WHERE WE DID DISCUSS THE
12:44:52PM DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE IMPORTANCE OF THE STREETCAR AND THE
12:44:55PM IMPORTANCE OF THE BUS.
12:44:56PM I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT CONVERSATION.
12:45:00PM IT WAS REALLY WONDERFUL.
12:45:00PM I KNOW I TALKED TO YOU ALL, I MENTIONED BRIEFLY ABOUT THE
12:45:04PM FACT THAT I WAS HOPING TO EARMARK ABOUT $3 MILLION TO THE
12:45:07PM BUS.
12:45:07PM TURNED OUT I DON'T NEED NEARLY THAT MUCH MONEY.
12:45:10PM SO I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE WILL BE TALKING A BIT
12:45:12PM MORE ABOUT THE BUS ON WEDNESDAY.
12:45:14PM I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I HAD A REALLY GREAT CONVERSATION,
12:45:18PM BOTH WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AND VERY LATER THAT AFTERNOON
12:45:21PM WITH HART.
12:45:23PM SO WE HAVE A MUCH CHEAPER PROPOSAL GOING FORWARD, FOCUSING
12:45:27PM ON ROUTE ONE AND THE BRT AND THE REGIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE
12:45:30PM ACCELERATOR.
12:45:32PM I'M HAPPY TO MENTION THAT.
12:45:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GREAT.
12:45:34PM I LOVE GOOD NEWS.
12:45:35PM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO.
12:45:36PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR
12:45:38PM WRITTEN STAFF REPORT FOR JANUARY 8.
12:45:42PM PLENTY OF TIME.

12:45:42PM TO LOOK AT MANATEE PROTECTION ZONES.
12:45:49PM SEE WHAT EXISTS IN THE HILLSBOROUGH RIVER, WHAT THE
12:45:51PM BOUNDARIES ARE.
12:45:52PM I THINK IT MAY STOP AT SLIGH.
12:45:54PM IF WE COULD EXPAND IT FURTHER TO THE DAM.
12:45:57PM I KNOW YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH FWC, MAYBE THE COUNTY.
12:46:01PM I KNOW IT'S MULTIJURISDICTIONAL.
12:46:04PM JUST TO SEE WHAT EXISTS AND WHAT WE HAVE TO DO TO FURTHER
12:46:08PM EXPAND THAT.
12:46:09PM AS YOU ALL KNOW, I'M VERY GOOD FRIENDS WITH ROD.
12:46:14PM HE'S ALWAYS ON THE RIVER.
12:46:17PM KAYAKING ON THE RIVER.
12:46:18PM I KAYAKED WITH HIM ON THE RIVER.
12:46:20PM WHEN I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL, I USED TO ROW ON THE RIVER.
12:46:23PM THE RIVER IS VERY SIGNIFICANT, BUT SO ARE MANATEES.
12:46:26PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK IS VERY GOOD FRIENDS
12:46:27PM WITH MANATEES.
12:46:28PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: EXACTLY.
12:46:30PM WE NEED TO PROTECT THEM.
12:46:31PM WE HAVE BOATS GOING THROUGH.
12:46:33PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: DOES THE CITY OF TAMPA HAVE ANY OF IT'S
12:46:38PM OWN MANATEE PROTECTION ZONES?
12:46:39PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S PART OF THIS CONVERSATION.
12:46:41PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I HAVE THE INFORMATION ON MY DESK.
12:46:43PM YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH MULTIPLE AGENCIES TO GET PERMISSION.

12:46:47PM I WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE REGARDING MANATEE
12:46:51PM PROTECTION ZONES AND WHAT WE HAVE TO DO TO MOVE FORWARD IN
12:46:53PM ORDER TO FURTHER EXPAND THAT.
12:46:55PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, WRITTEN
12:46:58PM STAFF REPORT, MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, SECOND FROM
12:47:00PM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
12:47:00PM ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.
12:47:02PM OPPOSED?
12:47:02PM AYES HAVE IT.
12:47:03PM ANYTHING ELSE, SIR?
12:47:06PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
12:47:07PM THANK YOU.
12:47:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
12:47:15PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
12:47:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE A PERSON THAT IT IS
12:47:23PM THEIR BIRTHDAY TOMORROW.
12:47:26PM MS. KOPESKY, IF YOU'RE LISTENING.
12:47:30PM HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU
12:47:31PM HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU
12:47:33PM HAPPY BIRTHDAY BUDGET ANALYST
12:47:38PM HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU.
12:47:41PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SEE, WE'RE BRINGING THE MUSIC ALONG WITH US.
12:47:48PM >> [INAUDIBLE]
12:47:48PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT COULD HAVE GOTTEN WORSE.
12:47:50PM COULD HAVE BEEN YOU.

12:47:53PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I RECOGNIZE THE CHAIR.
12:47:54PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
12:47:55PM AS I SPOKE ABOUT EARLIER AND I SENT AN E-MAIL, I'LL BE
12:48:01PM HONEST, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO DEAL
12:48:03PM WITH ON COUNCIL FOR VARIOUS REASONS AND SOME GOOD, SOME
12:48:08PM WHATEVER.
12:48:10PM THE ISSUE WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA WITH
12:48:14PM THE MANDATE THAT THE SIDEWALKS, CROSSWALKS, PUBLIC ART BE
12:48:21PM MANDATED TO BE DESTROYED.
12:48:24PM ONE, IT BREAKS MY HEART TO SEE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA WE HAVE
12:48:28PM SO MANY OF THESE BEAUTIFUL CROSSWALKS TO CLASSROOMS THAT HAD
12:48:31PM BEEN CREATED BY STUDENTS, CREATED BY ARTISTS.
12:48:35PM WE SAW WHAT HAPPENED WITH PULSE NIGHTCLUB IN ORLANDO, WHICH
12:48:40PM WAS AN AREA WHERE 49 PEOPLE, INNOCENT PEOPLE WERE TARGETED
12:48:44PM BECAUSE OF WHO THEY LOVED AND WERE SHOT AND KILLED AND THEY
12:48:49PM CREATED THAT AREA AS A TRIBUTE TO THOSE FOLKS THAT
12:48:52PM SACRIFICED EVERYTHING JUST BECAUSE THEY ALL WANTED TO SHOW
12:48:55PM UP AS A COMMUNITY TO HAVE FUN ONE NIGHT AND ONE EVIL PERSON
12:48:59PM WALKED IN AND KILLED THEM ALL, THESE YOUNG PEOPLE.
12:49:02PM THERE WAS A BEAUTIFUL CROSS WALK, CREATED A SAFE ZONE FOR
12:49:07PM PEOPLE TO WALK TO THE AREA TO PAY TRIBUTE TO THAT.
12:49:10PM HERE IN THE CITY OF TAMPA, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE THAT.
12:49:13PM ST. PETERSBURG DID, BUT WE DIDN'T.
12:49:14PM WHAT WE DO HAVE IS WE HAVE THESE GREAT MURALS, GREAT
12:49:18PM SIDEWALKS.

12:49:18PM HAMPTON TERRACE, A MEDIAN, LIKE A MANATEE PAINTED IN IT,
12:49:23PM BUTTERFLIES.
12:49:24PM ALL THESE BEAUTIFUL THINGS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA WHICH MAKES
12:49:28PM -- IT DESIGNATES IT IS A COMMUNITY.
12:49:30PM SOMETHING THAT REALLY MAKES SOMETHING SPECIAL.
12:49:33PM SOMETHING NOTEWORTHY.
12:49:35PM IN FACT, OUR CROSSWALKS TO CLASSROOMS WAS AWARDED BY THE
12:49:39PM FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AS SAFETY ENHANCEMENT.
12:49:43PM THE SAME DEPARTMENT NOW THAT'S TELLING WE HAVE TO SANDBLAST
12:49:46PM THEM OFF THE ROADS.
12:49:47PM ALMOST DREW A TEAR WHEN I WATCHED THESE KIDS OUT THERE
12:49:54PM PAINTING THE THINGS.
12:49:55PM I CREATED AN IDEA.
12:49:57PM I KNOW THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING THAT IS WITHIN OUR
12:49:59PM STANDARD RULES OF PROCEDURE, SO YOU'RE WELCOME TO PUSH BACK
12:50:03PM AND PUSH THIS TO ANOTHER TIME.
12:50:05PM I THINK COUNCILMAN VIERA WANTED TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS,
12:50:07PM BUT HE'S NOT HERE.
12:50:09PM DID I THIS RESOLUTION.
12:50:11PM IT'S A RESOLUTION OF THE TAMPA CITY COUNCIL CONDEMNING THE
12:50:13PM ACTIONS OF GOVERNOR RON DESANTIS TO RESTRICT OR REMOVE ART
12:50:17PM PAINTINGS, COMMUNITY CROSS WALK EXPRESSION AND SAFETY
12:50:20PM ENHANCEMENTS IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA AND AFFIRMING THE VALUE
12:50:23PM OF PUBLIC ART, DIVERSITY, AND COMMUNITY IDENTITY PROVIDING
12:50:26PM AN EFFECTIVE DATE.

12:50:27PM I WROTE THIS UP.
12:50:29PM ANYBODY THAT WANTS COPIES OF IT, I PUT IT ON MY SOCIAL MEDIA
12:50:32PM WITH THE INTENT OF DOING THIS.
12:50:34PM I'LL SPARE EVERYBODY READING IT.
12:50:35PM ALL THE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AND STAFF SHOULD HAVE IT.
12:50:38PM IT'S SOMETHING THAT I FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT, THAT I FEEL LIKE
12:50:41PM THE CITY OF TAMPA -- WE NEED TO MAKE A STATEMENT.
12:50:46PM FOR THOSE THAT ARE LISTENING, WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE BECAUSE
12:50:48PM THEY ARE HOLDING US HOSTAGE.
12:50:50PM WE DEPENDENT UPON FLORIDA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
12:50:53PM FUNDING FOR SO MANY THINGS.
12:50:56PM IF THEY WERE TO WITHHOLD FUNDING FROM THE CITY OF TAMPA
12:50:59PM BECAUSE WE FAILED TO FOLLOW THE RULES, IT'S SOMETHING WE
12:51:02PM CAN'T LIVE WITH.
12:51:03PM WE'RE BEING HELD HOSTAGE BY TALLAHASSEE.
12:51:05PM THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING UP THERE IN TALLAHASSEE.
12:51:09PM SO, REALLY, THE MOST WE CAN DO RIGHT NOW IS REALLY REGISTER
12:51:13PM OUR OBJECTION.
12:51:14PM USE OUR VOICES AND TELL PEOPLE HOW OBJECTIONABLE IT IS FOR
12:51:18PM WHAT'S HAPPENING AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.
12:51:20PM COUNCILMAN CARLSON FIRST.
12:51:27PM >>LYNN HURTAK: COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
12:51:31PM >>BILL CARLSON: I JUST WANT TO SAY I AGREE WITH THE THINGS
12:51:35PM YOU SAID.
12:51:37PM IF THIS GOES FORWARD AS IS, I'LL SUPPORT IT.

12:51:40PM I'VE GOT A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT MODIFICATION, RECOMMENDATIONS.
12:51:44PM I ALSO IN ADDITION TO WHAT YOU SAID, THANK EMILY --
12:51:50PM [INAUDIBLE] FOR SETTING THESE UP AND THE ARTISTS THAT WORK
12:51:53PM ON THEM AND PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT CONTRIBUTED MONEY.
12:51:56PM IT'S LIKE FOUR OR FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS JUST TO HIRE THE
12:51:59PM ARTIST.
12:52:00PM I'VE BEEN OUT PERSONALLY PAINTING A COUPLE OF THEM.
12:52:04PM IN THE HOT SUN.
12:52:05PM YOU'VE GOT LIKE 20, 30 VOLUNTEERS PAINTING THESE THINGS.
12:52:08PM THESE ARE EFFORTS WHERE THE COMMUNITY REALLY CAME OUT.
12:52:11PM MANY OF THEM ARE BY SCHOOLS, AS YOU MENTIONED, WHICH MAKES
12:52:14PM IT SAFER AROUND SCHOOLS.
12:52:16PM THERE IS ONE THAT I HELPED WITH NEXT TO COLEMAN, AND THE
12:52:21PM PROBLEM IS THAT THE LAW WON'T ALLOW US TO BUILD A CROSSWALK
12:52:26PM IF THERE'S NOT A SIDEWALK ON THE OTHER SIDE.
12:52:29PM THIS IS SOMETHING WE TRIED TO ADDRESS A FEW YEARS AGO,
12:52:32PM SOMETIMES IT'S NOT PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE TO PUT A SIDEWALK.
12:52:34PM IF YOU CAN'T PUT A CROSSWALK AND YOU HAVE KIDS CROSSING TO
12:52:38PM GO TO SCHOOL, IT'S A HAZARD.
12:52:41PM BESIDES ALL THE OTHER REASONS, IF -- THERE IS A REALLY
12:52:47PM STRONG SAFETY CONSIDERATION, NOT JUST FOR THESE THINGS IN
12:52:50PM GENERAL, BUT THE PLACES WHERE YOU CAN'T PUT CROSSWALKS.
12:52:53PM WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST, MY DAY JOB IS LOOKING AT THINGS LIKE
12:53:02PM THIS.
12:53:04PM WHEN OUR COUNCIL DOES SOMETHING THAT THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE

12:53:08PM OR LEGISLATURE DON'T AGREE WITH, THEY DECIDED THINGS RIGHT
12:53:12PM AWAY.
12:53:12PM WHEN COUNCILMAN VIERA PUSHED THE VARIOUS THINGS LIKE THE
12:53:17PM APPRENTICESHIP ORDINANCE, THEY CHANGED THE LAW RIGHT AWAY ON
12:53:20PM US.
12:53:21PM IF WE SEND THIS, FOR SURE IT'S A POLITICAL STATEMENT BUT
12:53:26PM IT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY IMPACT.
12:53:28PM WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND, BECAUSE MOST OF THIS IS REALLY GOOD,
12:53:31PM IF WE JUST STRIPPED OUT THE CONDEMNATION PART AND SOME OF
12:53:34PM THAT LANGUAGE AND JUST SENT A LETTER, YOU COULD INCLUDE THE
12:53:38PM REST OF IT, BUT JUST PLEADED WITH THE GOVERNOR TO PLEASE
12:53:41PM ALLOW THEM IN PLACES WHERE THEY ARE NEEDED FOR SAFETY
12:53:45PM REASONS.
12:53:46PM AND YOU COULD EVEN SAY THE ONES THAT HAVE MANATEE CHARACTERS
12:53:51PM OR OTHER NONPOLITICAL SIGNS, WHAT I'VE TOLD PEOPLE IN THE
12:53:58PM LGBT COMMUNITY, WE HAVE A YEAR AND A HALF -- A LITTLE OVER A
12:54:04PM YEAR UNTIL WE HAVE A NEW GOVERNOR, NEW ADMINISTRATION.
12:54:06PM DEPENDING ON WHO WINS, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PAINT THEM BACK
12:54:09PM AGAIN.
12:54:10PM I'M CERTAIN WE WOULD ALL DO THAT.
12:54:12PM IN THE MEANTIME, ALL THE HARD WORK AND EFFORT THAT PEOPLE
12:54:15PM PUT INTO THESE AND ESPECIALLY THE ONES NEXT TO SCHOOLS, I
12:54:18PM THINK IT'S OUR DUTY TO TRY TO CONVINCE THE GOVERNOR TO NOT
12:54:22PM FORCE TO US PAINT OVER THOSE.
12:54:25PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: ON THAT LANGUAGE, TRUST ME, I STRUGGLED

12:54:29PM WITH IT, TOO.
12:54:31PM THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS I DIDN'T NECESSARILY -- I GET
12:54:33PM IT.
12:54:34PM WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THIS.
12:54:36PM THEY ARE HOLDING US HOSTAGE ON F.D.O.T. FUNDING.
12:54:41PM ONE, SOME OF THE NASTINESS OF THIS.
12:54:45PM THIS IS JUST MEANNESS.
12:54:48PM I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN BURY OUR HEAD IN THE SAND AND MINCE
12:54:53PM OUR WORDS ON IT.
12:54:54PM BECAUSE WHEN THEY COME FOR A COMMUNITY, WHEN THEY COME FOR
12:54:58PM THINGS, I THINK WE HAVE TO RISE UP TO THAT LEVEL OF
12:55:02PM AGGRESSION.
12:55:04PM HONESTLY, CONDEMNING, IF WE HAD MORE POWER, THE LANGUAGE
12:55:09PM WOULD BE MORE THAN CONDEMNING.
12:55:11PM THAT'S THE MOST POWER WE HAVE IS OUR LANGUAGE.
12:55:14PM I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CANNOT CONDEMN -- BACK TO THE
12:55:19PM CROSSWALKS, CLASSROOMS.
12:55:21PM I'VE SEEN STATISTICS THAT SHOW THE SAFETY ENHANCEMENTS.
12:55:25PM HOW DO YOU NOT CONDEMN REMOVING SOMETHING THAT IS IN PLACE
12:55:28PM THAT MAY SAVE A CHILD'S LIFE, FOR WHAT?
12:55:35PM BECAUSE YOU WANT TO TARGET A RAINBOW.
12:55:38PM YOU'RE WILLING TO PUT PEOPLE IN JEOPARDY CROSSING STREETS
12:55:41PM BECAUSE YOUR MASCULINITY IS SO OFFENDED BECAUSE THERE IS A
12:55:45PM DAMN RAINBOW IN THE STREET.
12:55:47PM THAT'S JUST CRAZY.

12:55:49PM I DON'T KNOW HOW ANYBODY COULD NOT SEE THAT THAT'S CRAZY.
12:55:53PM I DON'T KNOW --
12:55:59PM >>BILL CARLSON: QUICK FOLLOW-UP.
12:56:00PM THE CITY HAD TO REMIND THEM THAT THERE IS A BACK TO BLUE --
12:56:08PM BUT THEY ARE CONSISTENT AND SAID TAKE THAT ONE UP TOO.
12:56:11PM AT LEAST THEY ARE CONSISTENT IN SAYING THAT ALL OF THESE
12:56:14PM HAVE TO COME UP.
12:56:15PM I DON'T AGREE WITH THE POLICY.
12:56:17PM MY ONLY SUGGESTION, YOU SEE HOW FAR ST. PETE HAS GOTTEN BY
12:56:22PM ARGUING WITH THEM.
12:56:24PM IF WE SAY CONDEMN, THEY'LL TAKE IT MAKE FUN OF IT AND THROW
12:56:27PM IT AWAY.
12:56:28PM MIGHT EVEN DO SOMETHING ELSE PUNITIVE AGAINST US.
12:56:31PM IF WE SAY, HEY, WE REALLY WOULD LIKE YOU TO AT LEAST ALLOW
12:56:34PM US TO KEEP THESE, WE MIGHT HAVE A CHANCE OF KEEPING SOME OF
12:56:37PM THESE.
12:56:38PM THAT IS MY SUGGESTION.
12:56:39PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I THINK THERE ARE PEOPLE SUING IN OTHER
12:56:41PM COMMUNITIES.
12:56:42PM HONESTLY, I'M NOT EVEN ADVOCATING FOR THAT BECAUSE I DON'T
12:56:45PM WANT TO WASTE TAXPAYER MONEY.
12:56:47PM AGAIN, I THINK THE LANGUAGE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, AT
12:56:49PM LEAST WE CAN GO ON THE RECORD TO SAY, HEY, WE DIDN'T SIT BY
12:56:53PM AND SAY NOTHING.
12:56:55PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: POLITICS IS LIKE A WAVE IN THE OCEAN.

12:56:59PM GUESS WHAT, EVERY WAVE IN THE OCEAN COMES TO AN END.
12:57:03PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
12:57:11PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M TRYING TO THINK OF WHAT TO SAY.
12:57:13PM GO AHEAD.
12:57:14PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I TEND TO ERR ON THE SIDE OF COUNCILMAN
12:57:21PM CARLSON WITH THIS.
12:57:24PM BUT I ALSO AGREE, I DON'T MIND IF IT GOES THROUGH.
12:57:27PM THAT'S FINE WITH ME.
12:57:28PM THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO ADD TO IT IS THERE ARE SOME OF
12:57:32PM THESE MURALS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE WITH NEIGHBORHOOD DOLLARS,
12:57:38PM WHERE THEY HAVE RAISED THE MONEY THEMSELVES.
12:57:40PM I THINK ONE CONCRETE THING WE CAN DO IS WE CAN PAY THOSE
12:57:46PM NEIGHBORHOODS BACK.
12:57:48PM IF SOMEBODY CAN SHOW THEY SPENT A THOUSAND DOLLARS PAINTING
12:57:51PM A MURAL LIKE HAMPTON TERRACE SAID THEY DID, THE LEAST WE CAN
12:57:56PM DO FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT IS A LOT OF MONEY.
12:57:58PM I THINK THE LEAST WE CAN DO IS PAY THEM BACK.
12:58:01PM I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT, MAYBE I CAN
12:58:04PM BRING A MOTION TO SEE WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
12:58:06PM BUT I DO BELIEVE THERE'S AT LEAST THAT LITTLE THING.
12:58:10PM BECAUSE MOST OF THOSE WERE FUNDED BY THE CITY, MY
12:58:13PM UNDERSTANDING.
12:58:14PM WOULDN'T BE THAT BIG OF A DEAL.
12:58:16PM BUT THERE ARE SEVERAL DONE BY NEIGHBORHOODS AND WE SHOULD
12:58:19PM MAKE THE NEIGHBORHOODS WHOLE.

12:58:20PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF THAT WOULD COME TO PASS, I WOULD
12:58:23PM ENTERTAIN THAT AS WELL.
12:58:24PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT.
12:58:26PM I RECEIVED A CALL AND SPOKE WITH SOME FOLKS IN HAMPTON
12:58:29PM TERRACE.
12:58:30PM THEY RAISED THE MONEY AND THEY PAID FOR THAT MEDIAN, NOT A
12:58:33PM CROSS WALK, NOT IN THE STREET, A MEDIAN.
12:58:35PM I REACHED OUT TO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND SAID, CAN THEY
12:58:38PM EXEMPT THIS?
12:58:38PM IT'S ART AND IT'S A BEAUTIFUL THING.
12:58:42PM IN REGARDS TO THE RAINBOW AND EVERYTHING, MY WIFE CALLS ME
12:58:45PM HER RAINBOW BECAUSE I AM THE RAINBOW AFTER THE STORM.
12:58:48PM THE RAINBOW HAS TO ME A MORE UNIVERSAL THING.
12:58:53PM IN ITALY, THEY CALL IT THE PEACE FLAG.
12:58:55PM EXACTLY.
12:58:57PM AS COUNCILMAN CARLSON HAD MENTIONED, THE BACK TO BLUE MURAL,
12:59:02PM THEY ARE SAYING TAKING THEM ALL OUT.
12:59:04PM THEY ARE DISTRACTING.
12:59:05PM AS YOU MENTIONED, THE DATA SHOWS REGARDING LIKE THE
12:59:08PM CROSSWALKS TO CLASSROOMS, THE AWARDS THAT WERE GIVEN, THE
12:59:12PM ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF IT MAKES THE ROAD SAFER.
12:59:15PM WHY?
12:59:15PM PEOPLE GO, WHAT IS THAT AND THEY SLOW DOWN.
12:59:18PM THAT'S WHAT WE NEED.
12:59:19PM WE HAVE SPEEDERS, PEOPLE WHO ARE DISTRACTED WITH THEIR

12:59:21PM PHONES AND OTHER THINGS, BUT THIS IS ABOUT THE SAFETY OF OUR
12:59:24PM -- YOU KNOW, THIS WAS IMPLEMENTED NOT BECAUSE WE WANTED
12:59:27PM SOMETHING PRETTY, BUT IT IS A PUBLIC SAFETY THING.
12:59:31PM TO IMPROVE PUBLIC SAFETY AND VISIBILITY.
12:59:33PM IN REGARDS TO HAMPTON TERRACE AND THEIR MEDIAN, WHY, BECAUSE
12:59:37PM I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE AND I'M ALWAYS THERE, IT'S TO
12:59:41PM BEAUTIFY THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
12:59:43PM ART IS BEAUTIFUL.
12:59:44PM MY GRANDMOTHER WAS A PAINTER.
12:59:45PM IF YOU LOOK AT THE PAINTING OUTSIDE MY OFFICE, MY
12:59:48PM GRANDMOTHER PAINTED IT.
12:59:50PM ART HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PART OF MY LIFE.
12:59:52PM WITH ALL THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE IN THIS WORLD, AND WE
12:59:55PM HAVE SERIOUS PROBLEMS.
12:59:56PM WE GO OUTSIDE, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE HOMELESS,
12:59:58PM HOUSELESS.
12:59:59PM WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT CAN'T AFFORD HOUSING.
1:00:02PM I CAN GO ON AND ON.
1:00:03PM AND THIS IS THE FIGHT THAT WE PICKED TODAY, NOT US.
1:00:07PM I'M SAYING LIKE THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING.
1:00:09PM A SHOOTING IN A CATHOLIC CHURCH YESTERDAY.
1:00:11PM MY MOTHER GLUED TO THE TV GOING, THOSE POOR CHILDREN.
1:00:16PM SHE HAS GRANDKIDS THOSE AGES.
1:00:18PM THAT COULD HAVE BEEN SOPHIA.
1:00:20PM THAT COULD HAVE BEEN MIA.

1:00:21PM PRAYING.
1:00:26PM THE CHURCH TO ME IS MY PEACEFUL PLACE.
1:00:31PM IT'S LIKE NOTHING IS SACRED, NOTHING IS SAFE, SO LET'S FIGHT
1:00:34PM CROSSWALKS, LET'S FIGHT ART, THAT HAS PROVEN TO SHOW IT
1:00:35PM MAKES PEOPLE HAPPY, IT KEEPS KIDS SAFER.
1:00:39PM THERE ARE SO MANY POSITIVE THINGS.
1:00:40PM HERE WE ARE THAT WE HAVE TO CREATE THIS RESOLUTION AND GO,
1:00:42PM WE HAVE A $2 BILLION BUDGET, WE HAVE A MILLION PEOPLE COMING
1:00:46PM TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT FUTURE LAND USES AND THINGS.
1:00:49PM THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING.
1:00:51PM I'M NOT CRITICIZING YOU.
1:00:52PM I COMPLIMENT YOU, BUT IT'S LIKE THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER
1:00:56PM PROBLEMS IN THIS WORLD.
1:00:58PM THIS IS WHAT WE SPEND OUR TIME HAVING TO FIGHT.
1:01:03PM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
1:01:05PM OBVIOUSLY, I'LL BE SUPPORTING THIS.
1:01:06PM THERE IS ANOTHER PART TO THIS, WHICH IS WHAT I CALL
1:01:09PM COMMUNITY VALUES.
1:01:13PM THESE MURALS AND CROSSWALKS GO TO COMMUNITY VALUES, SOME OF
1:01:17PM WHICH TALLAHASSEE DOESN'T SUPPORT, AND WE SAW IT AT ITS
1:01:20PM UGLIEST IN ORLANDO.
1:01:22PM OBVIOUSLY, WE ALL AGREE WITH THE MURAL LEADING UP TO PULSE
1:01:25PM WHERE 49 PEOPLE WERE MURDERED BECAUSE THEY ARE GAY, BECAUSE
1:01:29PM THEY ARE FROM LGBT COMMUNITY.
1:01:33PM THE MURALS THAT I'VE SEEN IN OUR LOCAL AREA, WE OBVIOUSLY

1:01:35PM HAVE THE POLICE MURAL THAT SUPPORTS OUR POLICE OFFICERS.
1:01:38PM I OBVIOUSLY SUPPORT OUR POLICE OFFICERS.
1:01:40PM WE HAVE MURALS THAT POINT TO BLACK HISTORY AND HOW, YOU
1:01:42PM KNOW, THAT WE HAVE SUCH A CRITICAL IGNORED BLACK HISTORY IN
1:01:46PM OUR STATE AND IN OUR COMMUNITY, RANGING FROM WHEN 4 MILLION
1:01:50PM PEOPLE WERE EMANCIPATED AFTER THE CIVIL WAR, TO
1:01:53PM RECONSTRUCTION, JIM CROW ONWARD TO TODAY, RANGING TO RESPECT
1:01:57PM AND DIGNITY FOR LGBT POPULATION.
1:02:02PM AND SO I THINK THAT COMMUNITIES HAVE A RIGHT TO EXPRESS
1:02:04PM THEIR VALUES.
1:02:05PM WHETHER IT'S FOR FIRST RESPONDERS, WHETHER IT'S FOR GAY AND
1:02:08PM LESBIAN FOLKS, WHETHER IT'S ON BLACK HISTORY THROUGH MURALS,
1:02:10PM SO LONG AS THEY MEET CERTAIN SAFETY STANDARDS, WHICH THESE,
1:02:14PM ACCORDING TO MY KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING DO, I DO THINK
1:02:17PM THOSE COMMUNITY VALUES, SO LONG AS THEY ARE POSITIVE AND
1:02:20PM INCLUSIVE AND TALK ABOUT THE FAMILY OF AMERICA, I SUPPORT
1:02:23PM THAT.
1:02:23PM AND WHY SUDDENLY THIS IS THE NEW OUTRAGE FROM TALLAHASSEE,
1:02:27PM IT BLOWS MY MIND WHAT THESE PEOPLE GET SO ANGRY ABOUT.
1:02:31PM SO, YEAH, SUPPORT IT AND THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS.
1:02:35PM >>LYNN HURTAK: SO WE HAVE A RESOLUTION.
1:02:40PM WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO HAS PROPOSED A RESOLUTION.
1:02:46PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I DIDN'T WANT TO SHOVE THIS DOWN
1:02:49PM EVERYBODY'S THROAT.
1:02:50PM IF PEOPLE WERE COMFORTABLE PASSING THIS TODAY, THAT'S FINE.

1:02:53PM IF THEY WANT TO DEFER IT TO ANOTHER TIME, THAT'S FINE, TOO.
1:02:56PM I WANTED TO GET IT OUT HERE BECAUSE SO TIMELY, SO MANY
1:02:59PM THINGS HAPPENING, SO MUCH HURT HAPPENING RIGHT NOW, I
1:03:01PM THOUGHT IT WAS TIMELY TO HAVE OUR VOICES HEARD.
1:03:04PM >>LYNN HURTAK: MR. SHELBY.
1:03:06PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THANK YOU.
1:03:07PM JUST A REMINDER THAT WAS WHAT WAS PASSED OUT WAS AN EARLIER
1:03:10PM VERSION.
1:03:11PM LANGUAGE REMAINS THE SAME BUT GIVEN A SUBSTITUTE VERSION TO
1:03:15PM THE CLERK WITH MINOR CHANGES IN FORMATTING AND PUNCTUATION.
1:03:19PM MIND YOU, SO WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS NOT ACTUALLY
1:03:22PM WHAT THE CLERK HAS NOW, BUT ULTIMATELY WHAT YOU SIGN WILL
1:03:26PM GET SIGNED ALSO BY THE CLERK AND ALSO NUMBERED.
1:03:30PM AND THAT WILL BE THE OFFICIAL VERSION.
1:03:32PM IF YOU WANT TO DISTRIBUTE THAT ONE --
1:03:34PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THE ONE WE HAVE IS -- IS THIS THE UPDATED
1:03:37PM ONE?
1:03:38PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: NO, IT IS NOT.
1:03:40PM IT IS NOT WHAT THE CLERK HAS.
1:03:42PM WE CAN E-MAIL YOU WHAT THE CLERK HAS.
1:03:47PM SO THAT WAY IF YOU SHOULD DISTRIBUTE IT, I WOULD RATHER YOU
1:03:51PM DISTRIBUTE THE ONE NUMBERED AND SIGNED BY THE CHAIR.
1:03:55PM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE HAVE A MOTION.
1:03:56PM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON.
1:04:05PM >>BILL CARLSON: YOU MISSED WHAT I SAID EARLIER.

1:04:07PM I THINK IF WE TOOK OUT SOME OF THE INFLAMMATORY LANGUAGE AND
1:04:10PM ASKED HIM TO ALLOW US TO KEEP THE ONES FOR SAFETY REASONS,
1:04:13PM IT WOULD BE BETTER.
1:04:15PM I'M VERY INVOLVED IN THE ARTS COMMUNITY.
1:04:18PM THE GOVERNOR WENT AFTER SOME ORGANIZATIONS IN THE ARTS
1:04:23PM COMMUNITY LAST YEAR, SOME OF THEM WERE IN TAMPA AND TALKED
1:04:26PM ABOUT THEM.
1:04:27PM MY ADVICE TO THEM WAS IF YOU PICK A FIGHT, THINK ABOUT WHAT
1:04:32PM HAPPENED TO BOB IGER AND DISNEY.
1:04:35PM BOB IGER WAS POTENTIALLY A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE, AND
1:04:39PM DISNEY LOST THAT BATTLE.
1:04:41PM IT'S AFFECTED ALL KINDS OF THINGS AT DISNEY BECAUSE THEY
1:04:44PM WENT INTO THAT BATTLE.
1:04:45PM I THINK THE BETTER COURSE -- IF WE PICK A FIGHT, WE'RE GOING
1:04:49PM TO LOSE BECAUSE HE HAS THE NATIONAL MEDIA, THE STATE MEDIA.
1:04:55PM WHAT WE CAN WIN IS TO MAYBE PROTECT SOME OF THE SAFETY
1:04:58PM MEASURES THAT ARE IN THERE THAT ARE PROTECTING KIDS.
1:05:01PM THE OTHER ONES WILL HAVE TO COME DOWN.
1:05:03PM THERE'S NO WAY HE'S NOT GOING TO FORCE THOSE TO COME DOWN,
1:05:06PM INCLUDING THE BACK TO BLUE ONE.
1:05:09PM WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SAVE SOME OF THEM IF WE PLEADED ON
1:05:11PM SAFETY REASONS.
1:05:16PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'LL CONTEND THAT WE DIDN'T START IT.
1:05:20PM IT'S NOT ACTIONABLE.
1:05:21PM WE'RE NOT WITHHOLDING RESOURCES.

1:05:24PM ALL WE'RE DOING IS STRONG, DECISIVE WORDING AND BASED ON THE
1:05:30PM ACTIONS HE'S TAKEN.
1:05:32PM I THINK EVERYTHING ELSE IS MINCING WORDS.
1:05:34PM THIS IS A STRONG ITEM, IT ORIGINATED AT PULSE.
1:05:38PM IT'S COME HERE.
1:05:38PM WITH ALL THE ISSUES IN THE CITY OF TAMPA WITH THE KIDS, THE
1:05:41PM CROSSWALKS AND ALL THE THINGS HAPPENING, I'D RATHER NOT
1:05:44PM WATER DOWN THE LANGUAGE BECAUSE I'M THAT OUTRAGED BY IT.
1:05:47PM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
1:05:49PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'LL CHIP IN ON THIS.
1:05:51PM I UNDERSTAND WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON IS SAYING.
1:05:53PM IF THAT WAS TO HAPPEN, THEN WE KNOW WHY HE'S DOING IT.
1:06:00PM IT'S A POLITICAL -- I'M NOT GETTING INVOLVED WITH ANYBODY IN
1:06:05PM GOVERNMENT.
1:06:05PM I'M TELLING YOU THEM, HIM, THEY, HER, WHATEVER, YOUR TURN
1:06:10PM WILL COME -- THE WAVE WILL COME TO AN END.
1:06:17PM >>LUIS VIERA: OBVIOUSLY, I MISSED THE BEGINNING.
1:06:21PM MR. SHELBY, THIS HAS BEEN REVIEWED FOR LEGAL SUFFICIENCY AND
1:06:24PM ALL THAT GOOD STUFF.
1:06:29PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: [INAUDIBLE]
1:06:30PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS APPROVED
1:06:31PM BY ME AS TO FORM.
1:06:33PM AS TO THE CONTENT, I WILL TELL YOU THAT I HAVE RECEIVED A
1:06:37PM COPY OF IT THIS MORNING AND SO HAS THE CITY ATTORNEY.
1:06:46PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE A MOTION.

1:06:48PM DO I HAVE A SECOND?
1:06:49PM SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER -- I HAVE A MOTION BY CHAIR
1:06:53PM CLENDENIN, SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER VIERA.
1:06:56PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: MAKE IT CLEAR WHICH ONE WE'RE VOTING ON.
1:06:59PM >>LYNN HURTAK: THE ONE WITH THE STAPLE.
1:07:01PM THE MOST RECENT ONE WITH THE CORRECT PUNCTUATION.
1:07:04PM TWO SIDED.
1:07:07PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I FLUNKED PUNCTUATION IS WHAT I'VE BEEN
1:07:10PM TOLD.
1:07:11PM >>LYNN HURTAK: ANY OTHER COMMENTS?
1:07:14PM OKAY, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
1:07:17PM ANY OPPOSED?
1:07:19PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THANK YOU.
1:07:20PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
1:07:24PM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK MR. VIERA MAY HAVE SOMETHING.
1:07:27PM AND WHILE YOU WERE OUT, MS. KOPESKY, WE SANG HAPPY BIRTHDAY
1:07:31PM TO YOU.
1:07:32PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YOU'LL HAVE TO ROLL THE TAPE.
1:07:34PM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: BELIEVE ME, YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR THE
1:07:36PM RECORDING.
1:07:38PM >>LUIS VIERA: SHE WAS IN A MEETING WITH ME.
1:07:43PM WE HAVE AN IN-PERSON PRESENTATION ON SEPTEMBER 18th
1:07:46PM REGARDING FIRE STATION 24.
1:07:48PM I WANTED TO MOTION SPECIFICALLY THAT THIS IN-PERSON
1:07:51PM PRESENTATION, PRESENTLY SET TO BE IN PERSON, INCLUDE UPDATES

1:07:56PM ON THE FOLLOWING ISSUES.
1:07:58PM I HAVE IT HERE FOR THE CLERK, ET CETERA, ON THE DESIGN BOTH
1:08:02PM INTERNAL, EXTERNAL, INCLUDING CURRENT TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE,
1:08:06PM RECOMMENDED STORMWATER SOLUTION WITH VISUAL MAP, RECOMMENDED
1:08:09PM POWER LINE SOLUTION WITH TIMELINE TO ALIGN WITH TECO,
1:08:12PM OUTCOME OF THE GRAND TREE ASSESSMENT PRELIMINARY FACADE
1:08:15PM IMAGES.
1:08:16PM I'M READING THIS JUST FOR THE RECORD.
1:08:18PM HAGAR WROTE ALL THIS FOR ME AS YOU CAN PROBABLY TELL.
1:08:21PM PERCENTAGE OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE SPACE, NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES
1:08:24PM THAT WILL STAFF THE STATION UPON OCCUPANCY, ESTIMATED DATE
1:08:27PM FOR PUBLIC INPUT, UPDATED PROJECT SCHEDULE REFLECTING KEY
1:08:31PM MILESTONES, ANY RISK OF OPPORTUNITIES TO PROJECT SCHEDULE OR
1:08:35PM OPPORTUNITIES, EXCUSE ME AND CURRENT BUDGET ASSESSMENTS BY
1:08:38PM LINE ITEM.
1:08:38PM JUST THAT THEY BE ABLE TO OPINE ON THIS.
1:08:41PM THEY CAN DO THIS IN WRITTEN FORM, BUT JUST SO THEY HAVE A
1:08:44PM RESPONSE AND I HAVE THIS HERE FROM MS. KOPESKY.
1:08:47PM THIS IS SEPTEMBER 18.
1:08:49PM IT'S ALREADY ON THE CALENDAR.
1:08:54PM >>MARTIN SHELBY: THIS IS A MOTION TO AMEND THE MOTION AND
1:08:56PM YOU'LL PROVIDE THAT TO THE CLERK.
1:08:58PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: MOTION TO GIVE VERY SPECIFIC
1:09:01PM CLARIFICATION.
1:09:01PM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMAN VIERA ADDING A

1:09:04PM CLARIFICATION TO THE ALREADY EXISTING ITEM.
1:09:07PM WE HAD A SECOND FROM COUNCILWOMAN HURTAK.
1:09:08PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
1:09:10PM OPPOSED?
1:09:11PM AYES HAVE IT.
1:09:12PM THANK YOU.
1:09:13PM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MOVE TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
1:09:14PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BEFORE WE GO, SPEAKING OF THAT, I KNOW WE
1:09:17PM DID THIS ONCE BEFORE.
1:09:21PM OUR PREVIOUS CONVERSATION, IF YOU ALL WOULD GO THROUGH
1:09:23PM FUTURE AGENDA, SEE STAFF REPORTS, BECAUSE THERE ARE THINGS
1:09:26PM IN HERE FOR YEARS.
1:09:28PM THINGS THAT MAYBE WE COULD REMOVE AND UPDATE AND
1:09:32PM REINVIGORATE IT, PUT A NEW ONE ON.
1:09:36PM TAKE IT AS AN IOU.
1:09:38PM REINVENT IT, BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL SO WE CAN DO IT.
1:09:44PM >>LUIS VIERA: I HAVE A FRIEND, HE IS A CITY OF TAMPA
1:09:47PM RESIDENT, MANUEL RIVERA, FOUR YEARS AGO TODAY HIS SON NADJI
1:09:51PM WAS MURDERED.
1:09:52PM A PICTURE OF NADJI THERE WITH HIS MOTHER AND FATHER.
1:09:55PM HE WAS A KING HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATE.
1:10:01PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: GUN VIOLENCE.
1:10:03PM >>LUIS VIERA: YEAH.
1:10:03PM PARTY.
1:10:04PM TRAGIC.

1:10:04PM THEY HAVEN'T FOUND THE MURDERERS AND HIS PARENTS HAVE TO
1:10:07PM LIVE WITH THAT EVERY DAY.
1:10:08PM IT WAS HIS ONLY SON.
1:10:10PM HIS ONLY SON.
1:10:11PM HE WANTED TO BECOME A MECHANIC LIKE HIS DAD.
1:10:15PM JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT PUBLICLY.
1:10:17PM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT'S A HUGE STAIN ON OUR ENTIRE SOCIETY
1:10:19PM THAT WE CAN'T RESOLVE THIS ISSUE.
1:10:20PM IT'S SO SAD.
1:10:21PM CHOOSE NOT TO RESOLVE, YEAH.
1:10:21PM WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECEIVE AND FILE FROM COUNCILMAN
1:10:25PM MANISCALCO.
1:10:26PM SECOND FROM COUNCILMAN MIRANDA.
1:10:27PM ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
1:10:28PM WE'LL SEE YOU ALL AT 5:01 P.M.
1:10:30PM THANK YOU.

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