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THURSDAY, AUGUST 21, 2025, 9:00 A.M.
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9:06:35AM >>LUIS VIERA: CRA IS IN SESSION.
9:06:36AM WE'LL BEGIN WITH OUR PRAYER, IF WE MAY.
9:06:41AM WE HAVE HERE CHAPLAIN JASON SOWELL WHO HAS BEEN A CHAPLAIN
9:06:46AM WITH OUR TAMPA POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR SEVEN YEARS AND FOUNDER
9:06:49AM OF CURRENT INITIATIVES, WHICH IS A TAMPA-BASED NONPROFIT
9:06:52AM ORGANIZATION, LEADING LOCAL MISSION INITIATIVES SUCH AS THE
9:06:56AM LAUNDRY PROJECT, HOPE FOR HOMES PROJECT, AND AFFORDABLE
9:06:59AM CHRISTMAS.
9:07:00AM HE HAS BEEN A MINISTER IN THE TAMPA BAY AREA FOR MORE THAN
9:07:02AM 20 YEARS.
9:07:03AM REVEREND, COME FORWARD, SIR, AND LET'S PROCEED.
9:07:09AM STAND IF YOU ARE ABLE TO AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE
9:07:11AM OF ALLEGIANCE.
9:07:15AM >> HEAVENLY FATHER, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE BEAUTIFUL DAY
9:07:18AM YOU HAVE GIVEN US.
9:07:19AM THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT CITY THAT WE GET TO LIVE IN AND
9:07:21AM PARTICIPATE IN, BE COMMUNITY MEMBERS A PART OF.
9:07:25AM WE THANK YOU FOR OUR CITY LEADERS.
9:07:26AM WE ASK THAT YOU GIVE THEM WISDOM AND HONOR AS THEY LEAD OUR
9:07:32AM CITY AND THEY MAKE THE DECISIONS THAT TAKE US INTO THE
9:07:35AM FUTURE OF OUR CITY.
9:07:36AM MAY OUR DECISIONS AND OUR CHOICES AS A CITY BE EQUITABLE FOR
9:07:40AM ALL OF OUR CITIZENS, THAT WE DON'T FORGET THOSE, THE LEAST
9:07:43AM OF US IN OUR COMMUNITIES THAT NEED THE MOST HELP.
9:07:46AM MAY WE LIFT UP EVERYONE WITHIN OUR CITY THE BEST THAT WE CAN
9:07:49AM TO BE THE MOST SUCCESSFUL AND BEST CITY THAT WE CAN BE.
9:07:52AM MAY WE BE MORE THAN JUST A RANDOM CITY, BUT MAY WE BE A
9:07:58AM SHINING LIGHT OF HOPE AND PURPOSE AND WHAT THE FUTURE LOOKS
9:08:01AM LIKE FOR NOT ONLY OUR STATE BUT OUR NATION AS WELL.
9:08:05AM THANK YOU FOR THESE VOICES THAT ARE HERE TO EXPRESS THEIR
9:08:09AM CONCERNS FOR OUR COMMUNITIES.
9:08:11AM MAY THEY BE HEARD.
9:08:15AM MAY THEY BE COMPELLING.
9:08:16AM GOD, MAY WE HONOR YOU IN ALL OF OUR CHOICES AND DECISIONS AS
9:08:19AM WE GO FORWARD INTO OUR FUTURE AS A GREAT COMMUNITY.
9:08:22AM WE LOVE YOU AND THANK YOU FOR LOVING US FOR WHO WE ARE.
9:08:25AM IN THE NAME OF JESUS WE PRAY, AMEN.
9:08:30AM [PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
9:08:41AM >>LUIS VIERA: ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
9:08:46AM >> MIRANDA?
9:08:47AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: HERE.
9:08:48AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: HERE.
9:08:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK: HERE.
9:08:50AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: HERE.
9:08:51AM >>BILL CARLSON: HERE.
9:08:52AM >>LUIS VIERA: HERE.
9:08:54AM >>THE CLERK: WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM.
9:08:55AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:08:56AM BEFORE WE BEGIN WITH ANYTHING, I KNOW MS. FEELEY WANTED TO
9:09:00AM COME FORWARD WITH AN INTRODUCTION BEFORE WE GO OVER THE
9:09:02AM AGENDA FOR PURPOSES OF TIME.
9:09:04AM GO AHEAD, GUYS.
9:09:05AM >>ABBYE FEELEY: GOOD MORNING, CRA BOARD.
9:09:07AM A LOT OF TIMES I'M NOT HERE AT CRA BOARD.
9:09:10AM GOOD MORNING, CRA BOARD.
9:09:11AM ABBYE FEELEY, ADMINISTRATOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC
9:09:14AM OPPORTUNITY.
9:09:14AM FIRST, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO JUMP THE
9:09:17AM AGENDA THIS MORNING.
9:09:18AM I'M HEADED TO TALLAHASSEE TO TAKE MY DAUGHTER, SO I'M GOING
9:09:21AM TO CRUISE OUT OF HERE AND LISTEN TO YOU IN THE CAR, WHICH I
9:09:25AM NORMALLY DO.
9:09:25AM BUT I'M HONORED TODAY TO INTRODUCE OUR NEW DEPUTY
9:09:29AM ADMINISTRATOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY, GERI
9:09:32AM LOPEZ.
9:09:33AM MANY OF YOU HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH GERI
9:09:36AM INDIVIDUALLY.
9:09:37AM BUT I'M THRILLED TO WELCOME HER THIS MORNING IN THIS
9:09:41AM SETTING.
9:09:41AM GERI IS A TRUE ROCK STAR IN THE FIELD OF ECONOMIC
9:09:44AM DEVELOPMENT.
9:09:44AM SHE BRINGS WITH HER MORE THAN 25 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AND
9:09:47AM TRACK RECORD OF IMPACT AND LEADERSHIP.
9:09:49AM SHE IS A PROUD JEFFERSON DRAGON, WHICH I KNOW MANY OF YOU
9:09:53AM ARE AWARE OF AND RAISED IN THE HEART OF WEST TAMPA.
9:09:56AM HER JOURNEY HAS TAKEN HER THROUGH SOME VERY RESPECTED
9:09:59AM INSTITUTIONS AND ORGANIZATIONS.
9:10:01AM SHE'S A GRADUATE OF YALE AND M.I.T.
9:10:04AM AND SHE HELD A LONG-STANDING LEADERSHIP ROLES WITH THE CITY
9:10:07AM OF CLEARWATER AS THEIR DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND
9:10:11AM HOUSING AS WELL AS A MANATEE COUNTY.
9:10:16AM MOST RECENTLY, SHE WAS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM US AT
9:10:20AM ERNST & YOUNG HELPING LOCAL GOVERNMENTS DEVISE STRATEGIC
9:10:23AM PLANS ALL OVER THE NATION.
9:10:24AM SHE BRINGS A LOT OF BEST PRACTICES WITH HER.
9:10:26AM WHAT EXCITES ME MOST IS GERI REALLY HAS THE HEART FOR THE
9:10:31AM CITY OF TAMPA AND OUR COMMUNITY.
9:10:33AM SHE UNDERSTANDS THE CHALLENGES AND THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT
9:10:35AM ARE IN FRONT OF US.
9:10:37AM IF YOU WOULD JOIN ME IN WELCOMING GERI LOPEZ.
9:10:42AM [ APPLAUSE ]
9:10:45AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, ABBYE.
9:10:46AM GOOD MORNING.
9:10:47AM I AM JUST SO THRILLED AND HONORED TO BE HERE WORKING WITH --
9:10:51AM >>LUIS VIERA: IF WE MAY, YOUR NAME, MA'AM.
9:10:54AM >> I HAVE TO GET USED TO THAT.
9:10:55AM GERI LOPEZ, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR DEVELOPMENT AND
9:10:58AM ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
9:11:00AM SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE.
9:11:02AM LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU AS WE WORK ON SOME
9:11:06AM REALLY IMPORTANT PROJECTS TOGETHER.
9:11:08AM I'M AT YOUR DISPOSAL FOR WHATEVER QUESTIONS AND SERVICE THAT
9:11:14AM I MAY OFFER.
9:11:16AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:11:18AM AN HONOR TO BE HERE.
9:11:19AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
9:11:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
9:11:22AM WELCOME TO THE CITY.
9:11:25AM WE ALREADY HAD A CONVERSATION, BUT YOU SAT IN ON SEVERAL
9:11:28AM MEETINGS I'VE HAD.
9:11:29AM SO REALLY APPRECIATED THAT, DIVING RIGHT IN.
9:11:32AM AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.
9:11:34AM BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING AND INTRODUCING YOURSELF
9:11:38AM THIS MORNING FOR THE PUBLIC.
9:11:40AM THANK YOU.
9:11:41AM >>LUIS VIERA: ANYONE ELSE?
9:11:41AM WELCOME TO YOU, MA'AM.
9:11:46AM WE WISH YOU WELL.
9:11:47AM WE KNOW YOU'LL DO A GREAT JOB.
9:11:49AM MS. FEELEY, CONGRATULATIONS ON FSU.
9:11:51AM WONDERFUL SCHOOL.
9:11:52AM BIG DEAL.
9:11:52AM I KNOW YOU'RE PROUD.
9:11:53AM THANK YOU.
9:11:54AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:11:55AM OKAY, COUNCIL.
9:11:56AM SO WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN, IF I MAY -- YES, MA'AM.
9:11:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN I MOVE TO APPROVE THE JULY 24 MINUTES?
9:12:02AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, MA'AM.
9:12:03AM MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
9:12:05AM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
9:12:06AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:12:07AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:12:08AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
9:12:10AM LET'S GO OVER THE AGENDA, IF I MAY.
9:12:12AM FOR STAFF REPORTS, WE HAVE MR. ROBINSON COMING, OBVIOUSLY,
9:12:19AM FOR NUMBER 2 WE HAVE CRA.
9:12:21AM ANY COMMENTS OR ANYTHING ON ITEMS 1 THROUGH 5?
9:12:28AM >>BILL CARLSON: NUMBER 4, I SPOKE TO STAFF.
9:12:30AM I SPOKE TO THE UNION.
9:12:31AM I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF WE COULD RECEIVE AND FILE THE
9:12:34AM REPORT, BUT CONTINUE IT UNTIL THE FEBRUARY MEETING JUST SO
9:12:38AM WE CAN GET AN UPDATE.
9:12:39AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, SIR.
9:12:40AM OKAY.
9:12:40AM WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
9:12:43AM SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:12:45AM ANY DISCUSSION?
9:12:45AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:12:46AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:12:47AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:12:49AM ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THESE ITEMS?
9:12:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SAME FOR ITEM NUMBER 5.
9:12:56AM I HAVE SPOKEN WITH PARKS AND REC AND OTHER PARTS OF THAT
9:13:03AM DEPARTMENT, AND THEY HAVE -- THERE IS A PLAN FOR REDOING THE
9:13:10AM PARK IN '27 IMAGINING AND THEN SOMETHING FOR '28.
9:13:15AM WHAT I ASKED FOR WAS FOR MS. McGREGOR AND MR. RUGGIERO TO
9:13:23AM DO A COMMUNITY MEETING TO TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT WE CAN DO
9:13:27AM WITH LITTLE AMOUNTS OF MONEY RIGHT NOW IN THE PARK.
9:13:30AM I'M HOSTING A COMMUNITY MEETING TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
9:13:33AM THEY SAID THEY WILL DO SO.
9:13:36AM SO I WILL SHARE THAT INFORMATION WHEN I GET IT, BUT THAT IS
9:13:38AM THE GOAL SHORT TERM AS WE LOOK TO LONG-TERM RENOVATION OF
9:13:44AM THE PARK.
9:13:44AM >>LUIS VIERA: GREAT.
9:13:45AM DO YOU WISH TO CONTINUE THAT?
9:13:47AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NO.
9:13:47AM RIGHT NOW I JUST WISH TO RECEIVE AND FILE BUT TO LET FOLKS
9:13:51AM KNOW THAT WE ARE EXPECTING A COMMUNITY MEETING.
9:13:53AM AND IF THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN, I'LL PROBABLY BRING IT UP NEXT
9:13:57AM MONTH.
9:13:57AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK WITH A
9:13:59AM SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
9:14:00AM ANY FURTHER COMMENTS?
9:14:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I SAY WE ADD ITEM 4 BECAUSE WE HAVE THE
9:14:06AM WRITTEN REPORT ON THAT ALREADY TO RECEIVE AND FILE.
9:14:09AM OH, WE DID THAT ALREADY.
9:14:10AM SORRY.
9:14:10AM >>LUIS VIERA: ALL IN FAVOR?
9:14:11AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:14:12AM ANYTHING ELSE, BOARD MEMBERS?
9:14:13AM IF I MAY, ON ITEM NUMBER 3, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FORMER STATE
9:14:22AM ATTORNEY AND SECOND DISTRICT COURT OF APPEALS JUDGE E.J.
9:14:26AM SALCINES COME AT ABOUT 10:00 OR SO, I BELIEVE.
9:14:30AM WE'LL WAIT ON THAT ONE FOR WHEN JUDGE SALCINES COMES.
9:14:35AM FOLLOWING THAT I'LL HAVE TO GO WITH HIM.
9:14:37AM TAKE 20 MINUTES.
9:14:38AM I WILL BE OUTSIDE ABOUT 20 MINUTES.
9:14:40AM BOARD MEMBER HURTAK, IF YOU DON'T MIND AT THAT TIME.
9:14:43AM REGARDING REQUIRED APPROVALS.
9:14:44AM ANY COMMENTS REGARDING THESE BEFORE GOING FORWARD WITH
9:14:47AM PUBLIC COMMENT?
9:14:47AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:14:52AM THERE BEING NONE FURTHER -- YES, MA'AM.
9:14:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK: DO YOU THINK -- NEVER MIND.
9:15:01AM >>BILL CARLSON: IF YOU ARE INCLUDING NUMBER 9, I RECOMMEND
9:15:04AM BASED ON COMMUNITY FEEDBACK AND THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS THAT
9:15:09AM WE HAVE A DISCUSSION TODAY, BUT THAT WE APPROVE IT IN THE
9:15:11AM NEXT MEETING SO THAT WE HAVE TWO DISCUSSIONS ON IT.
9:15:15AM IF SOMETHING IS A HIGH DOLLAR AMOUNT, WE USUALLY WILL HAVE A
9:15:18AM COUPLE OF DISCUSSIONS ON IT.
9:15:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK: 9 HAS NO DOLLARS ATTACHED.
9:15:22AM >>BILL CARLSON: NO, NO.
9:15:24AM BUT MY POINT IS, ALL THE DOLLARS HAVE TO FLOW THROUGH THERE.
9:15:28AM THE STAFF PREVIOUSLY IN GOOD FAITH PUT TOGETHER A FORMAT, A
9:15:33AM DECISION-MAKING FORMAT, AND IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO LISTEN TO
9:15:36AM THE PUBLIC'S COMMENTS, OUR COMMENTS TODAY AND THEN HAVE THEM
9:15:39AM COME BACK WITH MAYBE A REVISED VERSION NEXT MONTH AND THEN
9:15:42AM REVIEW IT THEN AND APPROVE IT.
9:15:46AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I HAVE NO PROBLEM PULLING IT OFF FROM THE
9:15:49AM REQUIRED APPROVALS.
9:15:51AM BUT I THINK WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT.
9:15:52AM IF THAT IS A MOTION, I'LL SECOND IT.
9:15:56AM TO TAKE IT OFF.
9:15:57AM >>BILL CARLSON: A MOTION TO TAKE IT OFF REQUIRED APPROVALS.
9:16:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SECOND.
9:16:01AM >>LUIS VIERA: BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN, GO AHEAD, SIR.
9:16:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I'M SURE THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE.
9:16:08AM I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN TAKE ACTION.
9:16:10AM >>LUIS VIERA: MR. McCRAY, DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON
9:16:14AM THIS, ON NUMBER 9?
9:16:15AM NONE.
9:16:16AM OKAY.
9:16:16AM GREAT.
9:16:17AM HOW ABOUT THIS, GUYS, JUST OUT OF ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, I'LL
9:16:21AM SUPPORT THE MOTION.
9:16:21AM CAN WE VOTE ON IT AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT?
9:16:24AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE'RE VOTING TO MOVE IT --
9:16:28AM >> TO MOVE IT OUT OF CONSENT.
9:16:30AM >>LUIS VIERA: THEN I'M FINE WITH THAT.
9:16:32AM BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN, DOES THAT SATISFY YOU?
9:16:34AM GREAT.
9:16:35AM WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK -- SORRY, BOARD
9:16:38AM MEMBER CARLSON.
9:16:39AM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
9:16:40AM ALL IN FAVOR?
9:16:41AM ANY OPPOSED?
9:16:42AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CRA BOARD.
9:16:45AM NEXT WE GO FORWARD WITH OUR PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:16:49AM ATTORNEY SHEPHARD, I BELIEVE YOU READ A STATEMENT BEFORE
9:16:55AM PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:16:55AM >>CLIFF SHEPARD: MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALLOWED
9:17:00AM REASONABLE OPPORTUNITY AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CRA MEETING
9:17:03AM TO ADDRESS ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA BEFORE THE CRA TAKES
9:17:07AM OFFICIAL ACTION ON THE ITEM.
9:17:09AM HOWEVER, A THREE-MINUTE TIME LIMIT APPLIES TO ALL PUBLIC
9:17:15AM SPEAKERS UNLESS MODIFIED BY A VOTE OF THE CRA BOARD.
9:17:18AM SPEAKERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE ALSO REMINDED THAT
9:17:21AM THEY ARE TO REFRAIN FROM DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR, INCLUDING
9:17:24AM MAKING VULGAR OR THREATENING REMARKS OR MAKING OR CAUSING
9:17:27AM DISRUPTIVE NOISES OR SOUNDS OR DISPLAYING SIGNS OR GRAPHICS.
9:17:31AM SPEAKERS ARE ALSO REMINDED TO REFRAIN FROM LAUNCHING
9:17:35AM PERSONAL ATTACKS.
9:17:36AM THE CHAIR WILL RULE OUT OF ORDER ANY PERSON WHO SPEAKS
9:17:39AM WITHOUT BEING RECOGNIZED OR ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS THE CRA FROM
9:17:42AM OUTSIDE THE SPEAKER AREA AT THE PODIUM.
9:17:45AM PERSONS FAILING TO COMPLY WITH THE CRA'S RULES MAY BE ALSO
9:17:49AM RULED OUT OF ORDER AND AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR MAY BE
9:17:52AM REMOVED FROM THE CHAMBERS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THAT DAY'S
9:17:55AM CRA MEETING.
9:17:57AM FINALLY, CRA BOARD MEMBERS ARE REMINDED THAT THEY SHOULD
9:18:00AM REFRAIN FROM ENGAGING A SPEAKER UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:18:03AM THE CITY COUNCIL RULES AS REVISED JUNE 6, 2024, ARE NOW IN
9:18:08AM EFFECT FOR THE CRA BOARD UNLESS OTHERWISE EXEMPTED OR
9:18:12AM OVERRIDDEN BY THE CRA BOARD BYLAWS.
9:18:15AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MR. SHEPHARD.
9:18:17AM WE APPRECIATE YOU, SIR.
9:18:18AM WE GO FORWARD WITH PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:18:20AM I HAVE THREE WHO ARE VIRTUALLY REGISTERED.
9:18:22AM ONE OF WHOM I SEE HERE, MS. BULLOCK.
9:18:25AM WE'LL HEAR FROM YOU LIVE, MA'AM.
9:18:27AM WE HAVE FIRST MICHAEL RANDOLPH AND THEN ADRIANNE RODRIGUEZ.
9:18:32AM MR. RANDOLPH, HAVE AT IT.
9:18:36AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:18:38AM MY NAME IS MICHAEL RANDOLPH.
9:18:41AM SINCE THE LAST CONVERSATION WE HAD ABOUT THE WEST TAMPA
9:18:46AM TECHNOLOGY WEALTH BUILDING AND JOB CREATION SYSTEM, INTEREST
9:18:50AM HAS SURGED NATIONWIDE.
9:18:52AM HERE'S WHAT WE ARE TELLING THEM, NATIONWIDE, WITH WHAT WE'RE
9:18:56AM DOING.
9:18:57AM STARTING OFF WITH EMPOWERING UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES THROUGH
9:19:01AM ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.
9:19:03AM THE WEST TAMPA CDC WEALTH BUILDING AND JOB CREATION CENTER
9:19:07AM IS A GAME CHANGER FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
9:19:10AM POWERED BY THE WEST TAMPA CDC, THIS RESIDENT-LED USES
9:19:17AM ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE TO DRIVE ECONOMIC MOBILITY,
9:19:22AM WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, AND ENTREPRENEURSHIP, ESPECIALLY FOR
9:19:25AM THOSE LEFT BEHIND.
9:19:30AM SOCIAL SECURITY, NEXT STEPS, NO SKILLS, OR CRIMINAL RECORD,
9:19:37AM WE'RE THERE FOR YOU.
9:19:38AM OUR MAIN RESIDENT MODEL USES ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCES TO
9:19:45AM POWER 80% OF OUR OPERATION, CUTTING COSTS AND EXEMPLIFYING
9:19:50AM IMPACT.
9:19:51AM THE SYSTEMS MANAGE DATA COMMUNICATION AND CURRICULUM
9:19:56AM DELIVERY.
9:19:56AM THROUGH TARGETED TRAINING, WE ARE CREATING 80 ARTIFICIAL
9:20:04AM POWERED JOBS FOR LOW-INCOME RESIDENTS AND WE'RE CREATING 30
9:20:08AM HOME-BASED BUSINESSES.
9:20:09AM WE'RE ALSO INTEGRATING TECHNOLOGY, NEW FINANCIAL TOOLS AND
9:20:17AM INCOME STREAMS, ESPECIALLY OWNERSHIP AND INTERVENTION AND
9:20:24AM COMMUNITIES OFTEN -- TRADITIONAL SYSTEMS.
9:20:28AM 60% OF OUR FUNDING WILL BE COMING FROM TECH COMMUNITIES AND
9:20:34AM LENDERS.
9:20:34AM OUR RETURN ON INVESTMENT STRATEGY ENCOMPASSES BOTH THE
9:20:38AM REIMBURSEMENT OF SERVICES, PROVIDING -- AND STABILIZE OUR
9:20:46AM OPERATION.
9:20:46AM WHEN THE BUSINESS BECOMES SUCCESSFUL, THIS MODEL WAS
9:20:53AM INTEGRATED TO OUR CURRENT INCOME APPROACH, DESIGNED TO
9:20:58AM ENSURE LONG-TERM FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY FOR THE WEST TAMPA
9:21:06AM CENTER.
9:21:06AM THROUGH THE FRAMEWORK, GENERATE REOCCURRING REVENUE WHILE
9:21:11AM REINVESTING IN OUR LOCAL WORKFORCE AND GENERATIONAL WEALTH.
9:21:17AM IN THIS TIME OF RAPID DEVELOPMENT AND GENTRIFICATION, THE
9:21:23AM CENTER IS STRATEGIC TO THE SAFETY NET AND A LAUNCH OF A NEW
9:21:31AM OF WEST TAMPA PRODUCTIVITY.
9:21:33AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:21:33AM WE'RE HONORED TO BE IN THE SPOTLIGHT.
9:21:36AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. RANDOLPH.
9:21:38AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
9:21:39AM MS. RODRIGUEZ, YOU'RE NEXT, MA'AM.
9:21:43AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: MR. CHAIRMAN, I KNOW AT LEAST ONE PERSON
9:21:46AM ASKED ABOUT BEING SENT A LINK.
9:21:49AM DID EVERYBODY GET THE LINK SENT FOR VIRTUAL PUBLIC COMMENT?
9:21:57AM >>LUIS VIERA: IF SHE WANTS TO COME ON LATER, SHE MAY.
9:22:00AM MS. RODRIGUEZ, YOU'RE APPARENTLY NOT ON.
9:22:02AM IF YOU'RE WATCHING, LOG ON, AND IF YOU DON'T MIND KEEPING AN
9:22:05AM EYE OUT FOR HER.
9:22:07AM ONCE SHE GETS ON, WE'LL STOP WHOEVER IS LIVE AND SHE CAN GO.
9:22:12AM NEXT WE MOVE FORWARD TO IN-PERSON PUBLIC COMMENT.
9:22:17AM IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK, PLEASE, IF YOU'RE ABLE TO DO SO, STAND
9:22:21AM AND LINE UP AGAINST THE WALL SO WE KNOW HOW MANY FOLKS ARE
9:22:25AM GOING TO BE SPEAKING.
9:22:26AM WHOEVER WANTS TO GO FIRST, WHETHER MR. DANIELS, REVEREND OR
9:22:29AM WHOEVER WANTS TO GO FIRST, YOU MAY.
9:22:51AM >> HELLO.
9:22:52AM MY NAME IS ASHLEY MORROW.
9:22:55AM I WANT TO GO ON RECORD TO SHARE TAMPA'S BLACK HISTORY.
9:22:58AM SO I WANT TO KIND OF GO IN A STORY FORMAT BECAUSE WHERE YOU
9:23:05AM ALL WITH DATES AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REMEMBER.
9:23:09AM FORT MOSE NORTH OF ST. AUGUSTINE WHERE THERE WAS ONE OF THE
9:23:13AM FIRST DOCUMENTED BLACK SETTLEMENTS.
9:23:16AM I WILL NOT SAY IT WAS THE FIRST.
9:23:17AM I'M TALKING ABOUT THINGS DOCUMENTED FOR THE PURPOSE OF THIS
9:23:20AM PRESENTATION.
9:23:20AM THEY WERE DESTROYED BY THE BRITISH.
9:23:26AM SPANISH, THE SPANISH ALLOWED BLACK PEOPLE TO COME TO FLORIDA
9:23:30AM BECAUSE IT WAS THE FIRST PROMISED LAND AND PEOPLE FROM THE
9:23:32AM SOUTHERN STATES WERE RUNNING FROM THE PLANTATIONS TO FLORIDA
9:23:35AM FOR FREEDOM.
9:23:36AM TO EITHER STAY IN FORT MOSE OR TO STAY AMONGST THE SEMINOLES
9:23:40AM AS SOMEWHAT FREED PEOPLE, BUT THE SEMINOLES DID ENSLAVE THE
9:23:42AM BLACK PEOPLE.
9:23:43AM BUT NOT THE SAME CHATTEL SLAVERY THAT WE SAW THE EUROPEANS
9:23:48AM DOING.
9:23:48AM FAST FORWARD, AFTER IT'S DESTROYED, THERE ARE A BUNCH OF
9:23:51AM DIFFERENT SKIRMISHES AND BATTLES IN FLORIDA.
9:23:58AM AND I'M SIMPLIFYING THIS.
9:23:59AM A MAN NAMED BENJAMIN HOTKINS COMES DOWN HERE DURING A
9:23:59AM SKIRMISH IN ALACHUA, AND HE SEES BLACK SETTLEMENTS AS WELL
9:24:00AM AS NATIVE AMERICANS LIVING IN FLORIDA FREE.
9:24:03AM AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS -- HE PROBABLY HAD NEVER SEEN
9:24:07AM ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
9:24:08AM HE SAYS YOU GUYS NEED TO GO DOWN TO FLORIDA AND BREAK THIS
9:24:11AM UP.
9:24:12AM SO WE SEE ANDREW JACKSON AND HIS PEOPLE COMING TO THE NEGRO
9:24:19AM FORT IN JULY OF 1816 AND THEY BOMB -- THEY BASICALLY SHOOT
9:24:23AM INTO A MAGAZINE WHICH HAS ALL THE AMMUNITION.
9:24:26AM BIG BOMB.
9:24:27AM IT KILLS A LOT OF NEGRO PEOPLE AND THE ONES THAT SURVIVED
9:24:32AM AND GET AWAY, THEY RUN TO THE SUWANNEE RIVER.
9:24:35AM ANDREW JACKSON GOES OVER THERE.
9:24:36AM ANDREW JACKSON AND HIS PEOPLE GO OVER THERE IN 1818 AND
9:24:40AM BREAK UP A LOT OF BLACK SETTLEMENTS AND NATIVE AMERICAN
9:24:46AM VILLAGES AND ENSLAVE -- FREE THOSE PEOPLE.
9:24:50AM AND THERE WAS A PLACE DOWN HERE CALLED ANGOLA IN BRADENTON,
9:24:55AM JUST SOUTH OF TAMPA.
9:24:56AM WE SEE JAMES GADSEN AND -- GADSEN POINT.
9:25:01AM GADSEN POINT.
9:25:02AM THE PART OF THE STORY WE HEAR, HE CAME AND DESIGNATED WHERE
9:25:06AM TAMPA SHOULD BE OR FORT BROOKE AT THE TIME.
9:25:08AM BUT WE DON'T SEE THE PART OF THE STORY WHERE HE EXPLAINS HOW
9:25:19AM -- BAY OF TAMPA IS ONE OF THE FINEST HARBORS IN THE GULF.
9:25:22AM INTEREST IS BOLD AND EMITTING OF FOUR FATHOMS.
9:25:25AM IT IS THE LAST RALLYING SPOT FOR DISAFFECTED NEGROES AND
9:25:28AM INDIANS AND ONLY FAVORABLE POINT FROM WHENCE A COMMUNICATION
9:25:32AM CAN BE HAD WITH THE SPANISH AND EUROPEAN EMISSARIES.
9:25:35AM NICHOLAS, A BRITISH MAN, REPORTED TO ESTABLISHED IN THAT
9:25:39AM NEIGHBORHOOD AND NEGROES AND INDIANS DIRECTED THEIR MARCH TO
9:25:44AM THAT QUARTER, WHICH WAS OVER IN BRADENTON.
9:25:45AM THIS IS 1818.
9:25:46AM WE THEN SEE THE TREATY IN 1819 AND THEN I THINK IT IS CALLED
9:25:53AM THE -- I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF IT, THEY GO INWARD AND
9:25:59AM THEN YOU SEE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF TAMPA, FORT BROOKE.
9:26:02AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
9:26:03AM AS MUCH AS I'M ENJOYING IT AND WOULD LOVE TO LISTEN TO MORE,
9:26:07AM TIME.
9:26:08AM >> THANK YOU.
9:26:09AM I'LL BE BACK NEXT WEEK.
9:26:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IF SHE WANTED TO COORDINATE WITH MY
9:26:16AM OFFICE, MAYBE WE COULD ARRANGE FOR MORE TIME.
9:26:19AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK HER POINT IS SOMETHING EVERY WEEK.
9:26:22AM DO YOU HAVE A SOCIAL MEDIA PRESENCE?
9:26:26AM >>LUIS VIERA: INSTAGRAM.
9:26:27AM >> BLACK TAMPA HISTORIANS ON INSTAGRAM AND Facebook.
9:26:32AM I DON'T HAVE ALL OF THIS IN THERE.
9:26:34AM IT'S IN MY BINDER.
9:26:35AM I'LL BE SHARING MORE.
9:26:37AM THANK YOU.
9:26:37AM >>LUIS VIERA: YOU'RE AWESOME.
9:26:38AM THANK YOU.
9:26:38AM NEXT, SIR.
9:26:39AM GO AHEAD.
9:26:43AM >> MENTESNOT, TAMPA, FLORIDA.
9:26:45AM I WANT TO SAY UHURU.
9:26:47AM UHURU MEANS FREEDOM IN SWAHILI.
9:26:50AM THE LAST 825 YEARS, WE AFRICAN PEOPLE HAVEN'T BEEN FREE.
9:26:54AM THAT'S 52 GENERATIONS OF NO FREEDOM.
9:26:57AM YOU NEVER HEAR AFRICAN TALK ABOUT FORT MOSE.
9:27:01AM NEVER.
9:27:01AM WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT.
9:27:03AM WE'RE NOT WOKE.
9:27:04AM THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS APPROXIMATELY TWO WEEKS AGO, I WAS
9:27:08AM RUDELY DRUG OUT, FORCED OUT OF THIS CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS BY
9:27:16AM THE KU KLUX KLAN AND GRAND WIZARD TO TURNED THE CITY CAMERAS
9:27:20AM OFF WHILE I WAS BEING DRUG OUT OF CITY COUNCIL.
9:27:24AM RUDELY ARRESTED, CHARGED WITH SOME FAKE CRIMES, SOME FAKE
9:27:30AM CRIMES BECAUSE OF WHAT, BEING BLACK.
9:27:35AM NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS.
9:27:36AM YOU UNDERSTAND.
9:27:37AM WHITE PEOPLE CAN DO THAT, IF IT IS THE WHITE POLICE OFFICER,
9:27:42AM WHITE PERSON WALKING DOWN THE STREET.
9:27:43AM WHITE PERSON WANT TO CONFRONT YOU BECAUSE WHITE PEOPLE HAVE
9:27:47AM WHAT IS CALLED QUALIFIED IMMUNITY.
9:27:50AM THAT'S WHAT THE RULING CLASS GIVES THEM TO DO WHAT THEY WANT
9:27:52AM TO DO TO AFRICAN PEOPLE AND GET AWAY WITH IT.
9:27:57AM THE WHITE CITY COUNCIL CHAIRMAN RULED ME SOMETHING.
9:28:01AM CAUSED ME TO BE RUDELY ARRESTED, DISRUPTED, DISRUPT MY LIFE
9:28:07AM AND PUT FAKE CHARGES ON ME.
9:28:09AM BUT GUESS WHAT, I'VE BEEN ARRESTED 85 TIMES IN MY LIFE.
9:28:14AM HAVE NEVER COMMITTED ONE SINGLE CRIME IN MY ENTIRE LIFE.
9:28:17AM LIVE A GOOD CLEAN LIFE.
9:28:19AM DON'T DRINK, DON'T SMOKE, DON'T PARTICIPATE IN
9:28:24AM HOMOSEXUALITY.
9:28:25AM DON'T HAVE SEX WITH LITTLE CHILDREN.
9:28:27AM DON'T DO NONE OF THAT.
9:28:28AM ALWAYS BEEN CLEAN.
9:28:29AM ALWAYS GOOD HEART, GOOD BRAIN AND GOOD MIND.
9:28:33AM ALWAYS KNOW TO RESIST WHITE POWER AND WHITE TYRANNY.
9:28:38AM WHEN I SAY YOU SEE AFRICAN PEOPLE ARE SCARED OF WHITE FOLKS.
9:28:42AM AFRICAN PEOPLE ARE SCARED OF WHITE FOLKS.
9:28:44AM A BUNCH OF NEGROES SAT RIGHT HERE IN THIS ROOM.
9:28:48AM A BUNCH OF NEGROES SAT RIGHT HERE IN THIS ROOM AND WATCHED
9:28:51AM THEM DRAG A BLACK MAN OUT FOR WEARING A SHIRT.
9:28:55AM A BUNCH OF POLICE OFFICERS STOOD RIGHT AGAINST THAT WALL,
9:28:58AM LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, AND WATCHED THEM DRAG A BLACK MAN
9:29:02AM FOR WEARING A SHIRT.
9:29:03AM THE POLICE OFFICER RIGHT HERE PARTICIPATED IN IT.
9:29:07AM HOW DO YOU GO HOME TO YOUR FAMILY AFTER DOING SOMETHING LIKE
9:29:10AM THAT AND PUT FAKE CHARGE WITH A BUNCH OF LIES ON IT ABOUT AN
9:29:15AM INDIVIDUAL WHO COME HERE ON A WEEKLY BASIS.
9:29:17AM IT DON'T FAZE ME.
9:29:19AM I'M A BLACK REVOLUTIONARY.
9:29:22AM AND I'LL CONTINUE TO BE A BLACK REVOLUTIONARY UNTIL THE DAY
9:29:27AM I DIE.
9:29:29AM CITY COUNCIL, WHITE PEOPLE, KU KLUX KLAN OR WHO SO FAR, I
9:29:32AM AIN'T FEELING IT.
9:29:34AM THEY DON'T SCARE ME.
9:29:35AM THEY DON'T DO NOTHING FOR ME.
9:29:36AM WHEN I GO TO BED AT NIGHT, 45 MINUTES, I BELIEVE IN A
9:29:41AM 24-HOUR PERIOD, I'M 100% HAPPY.
9:29:44AM 70 YEARS OF AGE AND 100% HAPPY.
9:29:47AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.
9:29:49AM NEXT, PLEASE.
9:29:56AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
9:29:58AM I'M HERE TODAY IN REGARDS TO ITEM NUMBER 9.
9:30:07AM JASON RICKMAN.
9:30:08AM I'M A LOCAL REHABBER AND DEVELOPER HERE IN THE CITY OF
9:30:12AM TAMPA.
9:30:12AM I HEARD THE PRAYER BEFORE THE PROCEEDINGS STARTED ABOUT
9:30:20AM WANTING WHAT IS BEST FOR TAMPA AND WISHING WELL ON TAMPA AND
9:30:23AM STUFF LIKE THAT.
9:30:24AM MY CONCERN IS ABOUT THE LIMITING OF COMMERCIAL GRANTS TO
9:30:31AM HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.
9:30:33AM THE REASON WHY I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT IS BECAUSE CURRENTLY
9:30:41AM -- WELL, EAST TAMPA NEEDS DENSITY.
9:30:43AM THAT'S SIMPLE AND PLAIN.
9:30:45AM YOU GO EVERYWHERE THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND YOU HAVE
9:30:49AM MULTIFAMILY.
9:30:50AM YOU ALSO HAVE SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT EAST TAMPA
9:30:53AM DOESN'T HAVE ANY OF THAT.
9:30:54AM AND I PUT FORTH A PROJECT WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE MAJORITY
9:30:58AM 30% UNITS, MIXED USE WITH A GROCERY STORE, WHICH EAST TAMPA
9:31:03AM DESPERATELY NEEDS.
9:31:05AM ITEM 9 WOULD STIFLE THAT.
9:31:09AM I FEEL LIKE EAST TAMPA REALLY NEEDS A CHANCE.
9:31:13AM I WOULD LIKE YOU GUYS TO NOT VOTE ON LIMITING GRANTS IN THAT
9:31:18AM AREA.
9:31:19AM THAT IS ALL.
9:31:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
9:31:24AM I LIKE YOUR HAT.
9:31:25AM >> THANK YOU.
9:31:26AM >>LUIS VIERA: NEXT, PLEASE.
9:31:29AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:31:30AM KELLA McCASKILL.
9:31:31AM WHAT DOES IT TAKE FOR YOU TO LISTEN TO THE VOICES OF PEOPLE
9:31:36AM THAT LOOK LIKE ME?
9:31:37AM TO THE MARGINALIZED, TO THE SENIORS THAT OWN KEY PARCELS OF
9:31:43AM DIRT IN EAST TAMPA.
9:31:44AM AND NOT ONLY LISTEN, BUT TO RESPOND AS IF YOU HEARD WHAT
9:31:48AM WE'RE SAYING.
9:31:48AM THESE PEOPLE HAVE PAID TAXES FROM 20 TO 50 YEARS PLUS.
9:31:55AM ANYTIME WE PUT A PROJECT FORWARD, PARTICULARLY PUTTING
9:31:59AM PROJECTS FORWARD TO HELP INDIVIDUALS LIKE THESE TAXPAYERS,
9:32:03AM IT'S AT A HALT.
9:32:05AM WE SAT BACK AND WATCHED ALL OF YOU HAVE BIG ENERGY FOR A
9:32:10AM WHITE WEALTHY MALE TO RECEIVE $5 MILLION TO BUILD 20 UNITS
9:32:15AM AND I SUPPORT IT.
9:32:16AM BUT THIS LIMITATION ON NUMBER 9 WILL PROHIBIT MY CLIENT WHO
9:32:21AM HAS PAID TAXES 25 YEARS VERSUS HIS TWO.
9:32:26AM MS. JACKSON, 50 YEARS OF PAYING TAXES.
9:32:29AM THE JEFFERSONS, 20 PLUS YEARS OF PAYING TAXES AND SERVICING
9:32:34AM THE HOMELESS POPULATION.
9:32:35AM PEOPLE MOST OF US WOULDN'T EVEN WANT TO BE AROUND.
9:32:39AM THESE GRANT LIMITATIONS THAT WERE PUT TOGETHER BY THE MOST
9:32:44AM EXPERIENCED TEAM YOU'VE EVER HAD IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:32:49AM NICOLE TRAVIS, ALIS DRUMGO PUT IT TOGETHER.
9:32:55AM HERE WE ARE TODAY REVIEWING SCRATCH-THROUGHS AND LIMITATIONS
9:32:58AM FROM AN INEXPERIENCED STAFF.
9:32:59AM I MEAN EXACTLY WHAT I SAID.
9:33:01AM INEXPERIENCED.
9:33:02AM INEXPERIENCED STAFF, PART-TIME ATTORNEY.
9:33:06AM YOU'LL IN ONE SETTING APPROVE SOME LIMITATIONS.
9:33:10AM YOU DIDN'T SEE THE BEFORE AND THE GRANTS THAT THE STAFF THAT
9:33:14AM WAS EXPERIENCED PROPOSED.
9:33:16AM I'M SURE YOU DIDN'T READ ALL THOSE DOCUMENTS BEFORE YOU
9:33:19AM GOING TO RULE ON A DECISION TODAY.
9:33:21AM I WATCHED THE EDC COME HERE, AND THEY ONLY HAD THAT PROPERTY
9:33:25AM FOR A YEAR AND A HALF, MAYBE TWO.
9:33:27AM THEY HAVE NOT VESTED IN THIS COMMUNITY.
9:33:29AM THEY DON'T BUY A PIECE OF GUM IN EAST TAMPA AND YOU SKIP
9:33:33AM THROUGH $9 MILLION.
9:33:34AM IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN AN OUTCRY.
9:33:37AM SHOULD HAVE BEEN AN OUTCRY FOR THEM TO RECEIVE $9 MILLION
9:33:42AM FROM THE POOREST PEOPLE IN THIS DISTRICT.
9:33:45AM AND ALL THEY GOING TO GET IS HUNDRED AND SOMETHING UNITS AND
9:33:48AM USF IS GOING TO BENEFIT FROM IT BECAUSE THEY WANT TO APPLY
9:33:52AM FOR A GRANT.
9:33:53AM YOU ALL SKIPPED THROUGH AND SAID YES.
9:33:57AM IT'S DESPICABLE.
9:33:58AM I LIKE MOST OF YOU UP HERE.
9:34:00AM BUT IT IS DESPICABLE, WHAT WILL IT TAKE?
9:34:03AM DO WE HAVE TO SCREAM?
9:34:04AM DO WE HAVE TO PUT A WHITE FACE IN FRONT OF IT?
9:34:07AM WHAT DOES IT TAKE?
9:34:08AM NUMBER 9, APPROVING IT TODAY WOULD BE DISRESPECTFUL.
9:34:13AM IT FEELS VERY DISRESPECTFUL.
9:34:15AM YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO VOTE BECAUSE THEY
9:34:18AM PAY TAXES, COME DOWN HERE DO THEIR CIVIC ENGAGEMENT AND GET
9:34:22AM ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
9:34:23AM TODAY, I'M SAYING DON'T SAY YES, PERIOD.
9:34:28AM THANK YOU.
9:34:28AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
9:34:30AM NEXT, PLEASE.
9:34:31AM IF I MAY, MA'AM, BEFORE YOU BEGIN, REVEREND, WHENEVER YOU
9:34:37AM WANT TO GO, JUST RAISE YOUR HAND.
9:34:40AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:34:41AM I'M TARA BLUMA.
9:34:43AM I WANT TO TALK ABOUT DEBT TODAY AND HOW ALARMED I AM AT THE
9:34:50AM AMOUNT OF DEBT THAT THE CITY IS TAKING ON.
9:34:54AM I'M A MOM OF TWO SMALL CHILDREN, AND EVERY NEW DOLLAR THAT
9:35:00AM WE SPEND WITHOUT A CLEAR WAY TO PAY FOR IT IS NOTHING MORE
9:35:03AM THAN A BILL THAT WE'RE HANDING TO OUR CHILDREN.
9:35:06AM I FIND THAT COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE.
9:35:09AM TOO OFTEN THE ADMINISTRATION TELLS YOU THE MERITS OF A
9:35:15AM PROJECT AND GETS YOU TO AGREE ON THE MERITS WITHOUT TELLING
9:35:18AM YOU HOW YOU'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT.
9:35:20AM AND THEN WE'RE LEFT HOLDING THE BAG AND WE DON'T HAVE THE
9:35:24AM MONEY.
9:35:24AM OR WE HEAR SOME OTHER ENTITY WILL PAY A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF
9:35:30AM IT OR THE FEDS WILL PAY FOR 20% OF IT.
9:35:33AM BUT AS YOU KNOW, THE PROJECT COSTS CONTINUE TO BALLOON AND
9:35:37AM THAT PERCENTAGE THAT THEY ARE KICKING IN GETS SMALLER AND
9:35:40AM SMALLER AS THE PROJECTS GET MORE EXPENSIVE.
9:35:47AM IT'S NOT A GOOD DEAL IF SOMEONE SAYS TO ME, I'LL PAY FOR
9:35:52AM HALF OF A FERRARI FOR YOU IF YOU PAY FOR THE OTHER HALF OF
9:35:55AM THE FERRARI.
9:35:57AM I STILL CAN'T AFFORD HALF OF THE FERRARI.
9:35:59AM SO STOP PRETENDING THAT WE CAN.
9:36:04AM FINALLY, WE CAN'T PRESUME THAT OUR CHILDREN ARE GOING TO
9:36:09AM SHARE THE SAME SPENDING PRIORITIES OR PRIORITIES FOR OUR
9:36:13AM CITY THAT WE HAVE.
9:36:16AM IT'S NOT THEIR JOB TO FUND OUR WISH LIST.
9:36:21AM IT IS OUR JOB RIGHT NOW TO PROTECT THEIR FINANCIAL FUTURE.
9:36:28AM ON THAT NOTE, I REALLY URGE YOU TO RECONSIDER THE SOUTH
9:36:31AM HOWARD FLOOD RELIEF PROJECT.
9:36:33AM IF WE ARE GOING TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE CREDIT CARD, LET'S
9:36:37AM GET THE MOST BANG FOR OUR BUCK FOR THE MOST AMOUNT OF PEOPLE
9:36:40AM AND DO THE MOST GOOD WE CAN.
9:36:42AM THAT PROJECT IS NOT GOING TO HELP VERY MANY PEOPLE IN SOUTH
9:36:45AM TAMPA.
9:36:45AM THANK YOU.
9:36:46AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
9:36:47AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
9:36:48AM MS. BULLOCK.
9:36:49AM GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
9:36:50AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:36:50AM VALERIE BULLOCK.
9:36:51AM I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT ITEM NUMBER 9.
9:36:54AM I'M ALSO HERE TO TALK ABOUT LEGACY HOMEOWNERS IN EAST TAMPA
9:36:58AM FOR THE CRA PROGRAM.
9:37:01AM THIS BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE
9:37:06AM CLEARED UP OVERNIGHT, BUT IT'S JUST DIFFERENT STANDARDS.
9:37:09AM WHEN THE BUSINESS OWNERS COME IN, WE GIVE THEM LOANS, DON'T
9:37:13AM ASK THAT MANY QUESTIONS AND THEY HAVE IT FOR LIKE 10 YEARS,
9:37:17AM 20 YEARS.
9:37:18AM BUT WHEN THE HOMEOWNER WANT THEIR HOUSE REMODELED, THEY WANT
9:37:24AM MY -- IF YOU HAVE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, IT IS A
9:37:26AM 30-YEAR LIEN.
9:37:27AM IF YOU GET 50,000, IT IS A 15-YEAR LIEN.
9:37:31AM FOR ME, THAT IS DISRESPECT.
9:37:33AM THE LEGACY HOMEOWNERS WHO HAVE BEEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD 20,
9:37:36AM 30, 40 YEARS, THEY ALREADY HAVE EQUITY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
9:37:40AM SO THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE A LIEN ON THEIR HOUSE LIKE THAT.
9:37:44AM MAYBE FIVE YEARS THE MAX.
9:37:47AM ALL I'M SAYING IS WE NEED CONSISTENCY.
9:37:50AM DON'T MAKE IT EASY FOR THE BUSINESS PEOPLE ON THE BACKS OF
9:37:52AM THE HOMEOWNERS WHO HAVE BEEN IN EAST TAMPA EVER SINCE EAST
9:37:56AM TAMPA WAS STARTED.
9:37:57AM AND ON NUMBER 9, IT SEEMS LIKE WE WASN'T WISE WITH OUR
9:38:03AM SPENDING.
9:38:04AM WE'RE JUST LETTING THEM COME IN AND GET MILLIONS AND
9:38:07AM MILLIONS AND MILLIONS.
9:38:08AM AND NOW IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GAME, BECAUSE WE GAVE AWAY SO
9:38:12AM MUCH MONEY, WE WANT TO CHANGE THE RULES NOW.
9:38:16AM BUT PEOPLE HAVE BUSINESS AND THEY HAVE THEIR PLANS ALREADY
9:38:19AM IN THE PIPELINE, SO WHAT RULES ARE THEY GOING UNDER?
9:38:23AM THE OLD RULES OR NUMBER 9 RULES?
9:38:27AM I DON'T THINK IT NEED TO BE CHANGED.
9:38:28AM WHAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT IS WHY DO WE KEEP GIVING MONEY TO
9:38:32AM THE SAME PEOPLE OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN?
9:38:34AM JUST LIKE THE EAST TAMPA CRA.
9:38:37AM YOU CAN SEE THREE TOP NAMES.
9:38:39AM THEY KEEP GETTING THE MONEY OVER, OVER, OVER AGAIN.
9:38:42AM LET'S DO IT LIKE THE CITY BY VEHICLES.
9:38:45AM GO TO FOUR ONE YEAR, CHEVY ONE YEAR AND THEN RAM THE NEXT
9:38:50AM YEAR.
9:38:51AM DON'T LET CERTAIN ORGANIZATIONS KEEP COMING REPEATEDLY
9:38:53AM GETTING THE BULK OF THE MONEY.
9:38:56AM LET'S SPREAD THE WEALTH.
9:38:57AM JUST LIKE THE MAN SAID, HE GOT A PROJECT GOING ON.
9:39:00AM BUT NOW YOU ALL WANT TO CHANGE THE RULES.
9:39:03AM WE SHOULD HAVE HAD CONSISTENCY ALL ALONG.
9:39:07AM THIS TUESDAY, I WAS AT EAST TAMPA CRA MEETING AND GRANT
9:39:13AM PARK, I REALLY LIKE HER.
9:39:15AM I TALKED TO HER A COUPLE OF TIMES.
9:39:16AM SHE WANTED 1.2 MILLION.
9:39:18AM GUESS WHAT THEY SAY, NO, LET'S GIVE HER 2.4.
9:39:22AM THINGS LIKE THAT THAT GOT US WHERE WE ARE AT AT THIS POINT.
9:39:28AM NUMBER 9, YOU ALL SHOULD NOT CHANGE THAT.
9:39:31AM JUST BE MORE CAREFUL THAT YOU'RE NOT GIVING IT TO THE SAME
9:39:34AM PEOPLE OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
9:39:36AM LET'S SPREAD THE WEALTH.
9:39:37AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
9:39:38AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
9:39:39AM NEXT, PLEASE.
9:39:42AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:39:43AM MIMI MARTINEZ.
9:39:45AM I AM A CURRENT EAST TAMPA CAC COMMITTEE MEMBER.
9:39:49AM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5.
9:39:50AM I LIVE IN YBOR CITY, SO BORRELL PARK IS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
9:39:55AM SO IS RAGAN PARK.
9:39:58AM YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO PARKS.
9:40:00AM SHOUT-OUT TO JANELLE McGREGOR BECAUSE SHE AND THE LATE
9:40:04AM GWENDOLYN HENDERSON, THEY REALLY TOOK THE LEAD ON FINALLY
9:40:08AM GETTING THAT PARK THE RECOGNITION IT NEEDS TO BE
9:40:10AM REDEVELOPED.
9:40:11AM JANELLE DID REACH OUT TO ME ABOUT A MONTH OR TWO AGO TO LET
9:40:16AM ME KNOW THE NEXT OUTREACH MEETING WILL BE IN THE FALL.
9:40:19AM WE HAD THE FIRST ONE IN FEBRUARY.
9:40:21AM TONY MULKEY HAS LEFT US.
9:40:23AM NOW WE ARE SCRAMBLING TO GET PARKS AND REC UP TO SPEED.
9:40:28AM SOME PEOPLE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT BORRELL PARK WAS GOING TO
9:40:31AM BE A PROJECT THAT WE ARE WORKING ON REDEVELOPING.
9:40:34AM IT IS A VERY COMPLICATED SITUATION BECAUSE THE NEBRASKA
9:40:40AM AVENUE CORRIDOR HAS SO MANY MULTIFACETED ISSUES THAT IT IS
9:40:44AM MAKING IT VERY HARD TO UNTANGLE NOW.
9:40:47AM THE REALITY IS IT'S BEEN LIKE THAT FOR DECADES.
9:40:49AM GETTING BORRELL PARK REDEVELOPED IS GOING TO TAKE TWO PHASES
9:40:54AM IN MY OPINION.
9:40:54AM FIRST, WE HAVE TO STABILIZE IT AND THEN YOU CAN WORK ON
9:40:57AM REDEVELOPING IT.
9:40:58AM STABILIZATION IS GOING TO MEAN WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH
9:41:02AM SERVICES THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR THOSE THAT ARE LOST AND
9:41:05AM BROKEN BECAUSE THAT PARK HAS BECOME A HUB FOR THOSE PEOPLE.
9:41:09AM THE CITY OF TAMPA HAS TURNED A BLIND EYE AND THEY HAVE
9:41:12AM ACTUALLY FUNNELED PEOPLE TO GO THERE, NONPROFIT
9:41:14AM ORGANIZATIONS TO PROVIDE FREE GOODS AND FOOD THERE TO THEM
9:41:17AM BECAUSE THEY KNOW PEOPLE CONGREGATE THERE.
9:41:19AM THE PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO LEAVE BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY CAN
9:41:22AM GET FREE FOOD AND GOODS ON A ROUTINE BASIS.
9:41:25AM I HAVE ASKED THE CITY PARKS AND REC, WHY CAN'T WE PUT A SIGN
9:41:29AM UP AT THE PARK THAT REDIRECTS THEM TO TAMPA HOPE, TO
9:41:32AM METROPOLITAN MINISTRIES, TO STEPPING STONES, TO THE
9:41:34AM LIGHTHOUSE, TO THE SPRING, BECAUSE THOSE SOURCES ARE GOING
9:41:39AM TO GO TO PEOPLE IN NEED.
9:41:40AM WHY CAN'T WE TELL THE PEOPLE, HEY, THIS IS WHERE YOU CAN GO.
9:41:43AM I NEVER SEE MOBILE OUTREACH AT BORRELL PARK.
9:41:46AM ARE WE TALKING TO THE PEOPLE WHO GO TO THE PARK AND SEE WHAT
9:41:50AM THEY NEED AND WHY THEY KEEP COMING TO THE PARK?
9:41:53AM THERE IS A DRUG HOUSE RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER ON 26th AND
9:41:57AM NEBRASKA AVENUE.
9:41:57AM AND THERE'S CREATIVE WOMEN.
9:42:01AM I MET WITH LORALENE.
9:42:02AM SHE IS AN ANGEL BECAUSE SHE IS THERE TO HELP THOSE WOMEN WHO
9:42:06AM ARE SEX TRAFFICKED.
9:42:08AM WHEN SHE FINDS CLIENTS WHO ARE SERIOUS ABOUT CHANGING THEIR
9:42:11AM LIFE, SHE REMOVES THEM IMMEDIATELY TO ANOTHER COUNTY.
9:42:13AM I MET HER.
9:42:14AM ME AND BOBBY MET HER.
9:42:16AM MY POINT IS, WE HAVE CLUSTER SEXUAL PREDATORS ON THERE.
9:42:21AM WE HAVE A HEAD START THAT THE COUNTY IS BUILDING THAT IS
9:42:24AM BEAUTIFUL.
9:42:25AM AND THAT PLAYGROUND ABUTS RIGHT UP NEXT TO THE JAY HAWK
9:42:29AM MOTEL WHICH IS A SEX MOTEL.
9:42:30AM THE BIRD'S-EYE VIEW IS BORRELL PARK.
9:42:33AM HOW IS THAT A HEAD START FOR THOSE KIDS?
9:42:34AM WHAT ARE THEY SEEING?
9:42:36AM BLIGHT AND SLUM.
9:42:37AM THIS IS GOING TO TAKE ALL DEPARTMENTS TO COME TOGETHER.
9:42:40AM I REALLY ADVOCATE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE MORE OUTREACH OUT
9:42:43AM THERE TO TALK TO THOSE PEOPLE AND TO PROVIDE SERVICES.
9:42:45AM THANK YOU.
9:42:46AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
9:42:47AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
9:42:48AM BEFOREHAND, MS. RODRIGUEZ IS NOT LOGGED ON, CORRECT?
9:42:51AM REVEREND, DO YOU WISH TO GO NEXT?
9:43:11AM >> THANK YOU.
9:43:11AM I APPRECIATE --
9:43:17AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:43:21AM MY NAME IS PASTOR WILLIAMS.
9:43:23AM LOCATED AT 1112 EAST SCOTT STREET.
9:43:27AM USED TO BE, BUT YOU ALL LET THE WHITE FOLKS TAKE EVERYTHING
9:43:32AM AWAY FROM BLACK FOLKS.
9:43:33AM I SEE THE SIGN HERE THAT SAYS CITY LEGAL STAFF.
9:43:37AM I WONDER WHAT THEY DOING.
9:43:39AM THEY DON'T DO NOTHING FOR FRANK WILLIAMS AND DON'T DO
9:43:44AM NOTHING FOR PEOPLE OF COLOR BUT TAKE, TAKE, TAKE.
9:43:47AM BASICALLY WHAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT, JACKSON HEIGHTS.
9:43:52AM GOT TO LET GOD TEAR IT DOWN BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
9:44:00AM >>LUIS VIERA: WHENEVER YOU SPEAK, IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO US,
9:44:02AM SIR, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
9:44:04AM >> WELL, I GOT TO SPEAK TO THE PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY ARE THE
9:44:06AM ONE THAT LISTEN TO ME.
9:44:07AM >>LUIS VIERA: I HEAR YOU.
9:44:08AM THANK YOU, SIR.
9:44:11AM >> THEY DON'T LISTEN TO ME AT ALL.
9:44:12AM [ LAUGHTER ]
9:44:12AM I THANK GOD FOR THAT.
9:44:13AM I PRAY TO YOU ALL.
9:44:15AM WHY YOU DON'T CALL ME UP TO PRAY?
9:44:19AM TELL YOU WHY.
9:44:21AM THEY KNOW I AM A PASTOR.
9:44:23AM BUT THE REASON THEY DON'T WANT ME TO PRAY, BECAUSE I USE THE
9:44:27AM NAME JESUS CHRIST, MY LORD AND SAVIOR.
9:44:30AM BUT IF GOD, READ THE QURAN, READ ALMOST THE WHOLE BOOK OF
9:44:37AM QURAN AND THAT'S WHEN THEY START GIVING COMMENT.
9:44:42AM WE GOT TO TALK ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS.
9:44:51AM NO, THAT AIN'T THE WAY YOU ARE GOING TO CONTROL PASTOR
9:44:57AM WILLIAMS.
9:44:57AM I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT I NEED TO TALK ABOUT.
9:45:00AM TALK ABOUT THE TRUTH.
9:45:01AM THAT'S WHAT LIFE IS ALL ABOUT.
9:45:02AM I USED TO COME UP HERE MANY YEARS AGO.
9:45:08AM SOME OF YOU ALL, MAYBE NOT YOU ALL, BUT IF PEOPLE WALK OUT
9:45:14AM WHEN I STOOD UP HERE.
9:45:15AM NOW THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO WALK OUT NO MORE BECAUSE THEY ARE
9:45:18AM ALL DEAD, I GUESS.
9:45:19AM WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND.
9:45:25AM TREAT PEOPLE LIKE PEOPLE.
9:45:27AM DON'T TREAT PEOPLE LIKE THEY ARE ANIMALS.
9:45:31AM TREAT THEM LIKE THEY ARE HUMAN BEINGS AND THAT'S WHAT LIFE
9:45:34AM IS ALL ABOUT.
9:45:34AM YOU KNOW WHAT?
9:45:36AM WE'LL HAVE TO GIVE GOD THE GLORY AND EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS
9:45:40AM TO US BECAUSE GOD IS A GOOD GOD.
9:45:44AM LIKE I TELL YOU ALL, RATHER TALK TO YOU ALL BECAUSE I THINK
9:45:49AM YOU ALL GET SOMETHING DONE FOR ME.
9:45:51AM YOU ALL ARE STANDING UP THERE, YOU ALL DON'T GET NOTHING
9:45:55AM DONE FOR ME.
9:45:55AM I'VE BEEN COMING HERE COMPLAINING YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER
9:46:00AM YEAR, BUT THEY DON'T DO NOTHING.
9:46:01AM THEY ARE CALLING THE WHITE FOLKS UP HERE.
9:46:04AM COME HERE, COME HERE.
9:46:05AM WE GOT TO VOTE ON IT.
9:46:08AM FRANK WILLIAMS, THEY DON'T VOTE ON NOTHING I SAID.
9:46:11AM CITY LEADER STAFF DON'T WANT TO DO NOTHING I WANT THEM TO
9:46:16AM DO.
9:46:18AM TALKING ABOUT I HAD -- MY SON PAID $18,000 FOR ME TO STAY
9:46:22AM WHERE I'VE BEEN LIVING ALL THE WHILE.
9:46:29AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, PASTOR.
9:46:32AM YOUR TIME IS UP, UNFORTUNATELY.
9:46:34AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
9:46:35AM >> THEY HAVE AN ORGANIZATION CALLED -- I CAN'T THINK OF IT
9:46:43AM RIGHT NOW, SO MUCH ON MY MIND.
9:46:45AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
9:46:52AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:46:54AM BOBBY CREIGHTON.
9:46:55AM I ALSO LIVE IN YBOR HEIGHTS.
9:46:58AM CAME TO SPEAK ON BORRELL PARK THIS MORNING.
9:47:01AM I DON'T THINK I CAN REALLY ADD ANYTHING THAT WASN'T SAID
9:47:04AM EARLIER BY MIMI.
9:47:05AM I THINK SHE HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.
9:47:08AM SHOUT-OUT TO THE TAMPA MONITOR.
9:47:10AM MICHAEL BISHOP.
9:47:13AM HE DOES FABULOUS WORK.
9:47:14AM PROVIDES VERY, VERY VALUABLE INSIGHT INTO WHAT'S HAPPENING
9:47:17AM IN THE CITY AND CITY COUNCIL.
9:47:18AM IF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW ABOUT WHAT HE DOES, TAMPAMONITOR.COM.
9:47:22AM DONATE.
9:47:23AM HE'S DOING REALLY GREAT WORK.
9:47:25AM I THINK HE WAS EXACTLY RIGHT IN THE COMMENTARY IN HIS
9:47:28AM ARTICLE.
9:47:28AM THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA WAS DO WE TEAR DOWN THE STRUCTURE OR
9:47:32AM NOT?
9:47:32AM FROM WHAT I SEE, DOESN'T REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
9:47:35AM YOU TEAR IT DOWN, LEAVE IT THERE, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO
9:47:38AM CONGREGATE AT THAT PARK NO MATTER WHAT.
9:47:40AM THAT'S JUST WHERE THEY GO BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOWHERE ELSE TO
9:47:43AM GO.
9:47:44AM I THINK THAT IS A SHAME.
9:47:45AM THERE WAS AN ITEM A COUPLE OF WEEKS BACK ABOUT GIVING MORE
9:47:49AM FUNDING TO TAMPA HOPE, MORE BEDS.
9:47:52AM WHERE ARE WE AT WITH THAT?
9:47:53AM ARE THEY FULL?
9:47:55AM WHAT IS THE STATUS.
9:47:56AM IF THE TAMPA/HILLSBOROUGH HOMELESS INITIATIVE THAT ALLOCATES
9:48:00AM FUNDING TO DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS, WHAT ARE THEY DOING?
9:48:03AM CAN WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS PROBLEM LOOKS LIKE?
9:48:07AM CAN WE GET NUMBERS?
9:48:08AM CAN WE GET FIGURES?
9:48:10AM I NEVER REALLY SEE THEM COME TO COUNCIL TO GIVE ANY UPDATES.
9:48:14AM WE THINK ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE PARK, BACK IN THE VERY
9:48:17AM BEGINNING, 1970s, WHEN THE CITY BOUGHT THE PARK, THEY
9:48:20AM THREW A BUNCH OF MONEY AT IT AND COULDN'T GET THE BALL
9:48:23AM ROLLING ON THE PARK.
9:48:24AM THE STRUCTURE WAS NEVER DONE.
9:48:25AM NO TABLES THERE, NO CHAIRS.
9:48:27AM PEOPLE SIT ON THE FLOOR ON THE CONCRETE WITH THEIR BACK
9:48:30AM AGAINST ONE OF THE PILLARS WHERE PEOPLE THROW CIGARETTE
9:48:33AM BUTTS AND SPIT ON THE GROUND, THAT'S NOT FAIR TO ANYBODY.
9:48:36AM HOWEVER YOU SLICE IT, IT'S NOT A GOOD SITUATION FOR ANYBODY,
9:48:40AM FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE AROUND THE PARK, THE PEOPLE THAT
9:48:43AM HAVE TO GO TO THAT PARK BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOWHERE ELSE TO
9:48:45AM GO.
9:48:45AM I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT YOU DO.
9:48:48AM THIS IS A MESS OF AN ISSUE.
9:48:50AM IT'S BECAUSE THE CITY FOR GENERATIONS, LITERALLY FOR 60, 70
9:48:54AM YEARS NEGLECTED TO DO ANYTHING WITH THE PARK.
9:48:56AM IT'S BEEN SITTING THERE LIKE BASICALLY AN OPEN FIELD WITH A
9:48:59AM PLAYGROUND IN THE CORNER THAT NOBODY GOES TO BECAUSE THERE'S
9:49:01AM SOMEBODY SLEEPING UNDER THE SLIDE.
9:49:03AM THERE WAS A SURVEY FOR THE PARK, WE HAD A MEETING BACK IN
9:49:10AM FEBRUARY TO GO OVER SOME UPDATES, TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION
9:49:12AM WITH THE COMMUNITY ABOUT IMPROVEMENTS, START THAT ENGAGEMENT
9:49:15AM PROCESS.
9:49:15AM SIX MONTHS LATER, LIKE WE SHOULD KIND OF ALREADY KNOW WHAT
9:49:19AM WE WANT TO DO WITH THAT.
9:49:21AM I WOULD IMAGINE.
9:49:22AM I KNOW THE PARK STAFF IS BUSY AND HAVE LIMITED TIME AND
9:49:25AM BUDGET.
9:49:25AM THE FACT THAT WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION RIGHT NOW, IT'S
9:49:29AM JUST ADDING TO THAT TERRIBLE LEGACY OF NEGLECT AND DISREGARD
9:49:34AM FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
9:49:34AM I APPRECIATE COUNCIL MEMBER -- BOARD MEMBER HURTAK PICKING
9:49:41AM UP THE ROPE NOW THAT COUNCILWOMAN HENDERSON IS GONE.
9:49:45AM SHE WAS PUSHING THIS ALONG WITH TONY MULKEY WHO ALSO HAPPENS
9:49:49AM TO BE GONE.
9:49:50AM RIGHT NOW, RESIDENTS FEEL IN LIMBO.
9:49:52AM LOST TWO KEY DRIVERS.
9:49:55AM HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET BACK ON TRACK AND GOOD OUTCOMES FOR
9:49:57AM EVERYBODY IN THE AREA.
9:49:59AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
9:50:00AM APPRECIATE YOU.
9:50:00AM I SEE OTHER FOLKS COMING IN.
9:50:03AM IF YOU'RE SITTING DOWN AND SPEAKING IN PUBLIC COMMENT, CAN
9:50:06AM YOU RAISE YOUR HAND?
9:50:07AM TWO FOLKS.
9:50:08AM OKAY.
9:50:09AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
9:50:11AM >> GOOD MORNING, CITY COUNCIL.
9:50:12AM MY NAME IS DARYL HYCH.
9:50:16AM FROM LAST YEAR'S BUDGET TO THIS BUDGET, THE CRA FUNDING IS
9:50:23AM CURRENTLY -- WOULD BE PROPOSED AT ROUGHLY $60 MILLION.
9:50:29AM THE CRA WAS CREATED, MY TIMELINE MIGHT BE OFF, BUT 1969 TO
9:50:37AM SETTLE SLUM AND BLIGHT.
9:50:39AM SLUM AND BLIGHT IN THE COMMUNITIES.
9:50:43AM IN 2020, THIS COUNCIL, PLUS OR MINUS SOME PERSONS, WROTE
9:50:49AM RESOLUTION NUMBER 568.
9:50:52AM YOU FAST-FORWARD FROM 1969 TO 2020 WHERE THE CITY MADE AN
9:50:58AM APOLOGY FOR THE WRONGS THAT THEY DONE AGAINST BLACK CITIZENS
9:51:03AM OF THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:51:04AM YOU APOLOGIZED FOR THE WRONG AGAINST HOUSING, ECONOMIC
9:51:10AM OPPORTUNITY, FAIRNESS, AND THE VARIOUS INJUSTICES AND YOU
9:51:15AM EVEN STATED IN THAT RESOLUTION THAT THERE WERE OVERT AND
9:51:18AM COVERT THINGS THAT WERE DONE TO MAKE SURE IN SO MANY WORDS
9:51:24AM METAPHORICALLY SPEAKING THAT YOU KEPT YOUR NEEDS ON THE
9:51:29AM NECKS OF AFRICAN AMERICAN CITIZENS IN THE CITY OF TAMPA.
9:51:31AM NOW WE MOVE ALL THE WAY OVER TO YOUR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 9,
9:51:40AM WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING AT AND SAYING, OKAY, THE SAME PEOPLE WE
9:51:44AM APOLOGIZE FOR DOING A WRONG, WE'RE NOW ABOUT TO DO THE SAME
9:51:48AM THING OVER AGAIN WITH THE LACK OR LIMITED CONSIDERATION TO
9:51:51AM WHAT MAY OR -- HAPPEN WITH THE INDIVIDUALS.
9:51:55AM IF I HAVE A BUSINESS IN YBOR, BUSINESS IN EAST TAMPA AND I'M
9:51:58AM LOOKING TO GROW MY BUSINESS AND ALL OF A SUDDEN I FIND OUT
9:52:02AM THAT THE GAME HAS BEEN CHANGED.
9:52:04AM THE GOALPOST HAS BEEN MOVED FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD AND NOW I
9:52:07AM CAN'T OPEN MY BUSINESS, I CAN'T CONTINUE TO DO BUSINESS THE
9:52:10AM WAY I USED TO DO BUSINESS, WHICH THEN LEADS US BACK TO THE
9:52:15AM PROBLEM OF SLUM AND BLIGHT.
9:52:16AM THE VERY THING THAT THE CRA, CHAPTER 163 IS SUPPOSED TO
9:52:23AM CURE, WE'RE MAKING IT COME BACK TO PASS.
9:52:26AM WE USE TERMS LIKE, WHAT WAS THIS TERM?
9:52:29AM HOLD ON.
9:52:37AM THIS TERM IS AMAZING, BECAUSE I WAS LIKE, HOW DO YOU EVEN
9:52:41AM MAKE THIS TERM UP?
9:52:45AM UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.
9:52:47AM WHAT IS UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES?
9:52:48AM AN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE WAS YOU INTENDED TO MOVE ON
9:52:54AM RESOLUTION NUMBER 568, BUT THE CONSEQUENCES ARE ANGELA CRIST
9:53:02AM SENDING ME AN E-MAIL THREE WEEKS AGO SAYING WE WANT TO HAVE
9:53:04AM A DISCUSSION ON WHY WE HAVEN'T MET SINCE JUNE.
9:53:07AM THAT IS AN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE.
9:53:09AM IF WE CONTINUE TO HAVE THESE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES, HOW DO
9:53:13AM WE KNOW OUR BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO SUCCEED?
9:53:15AM HOW DO WE KNOW WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING IS GOING TO SUCCEED?
9:53:18AM I'LL TELL YOU THIS, IF YOU'RE PAYING ME $203,000 A YEAR, I
9:53:25AM WOULDN'T BUCK THE SYSTEM EITHER.
9:53:29AM I WOULD RIDE WITH WHATEVER IS TOLD OF ME.
9:53:31AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
9:53:31AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
9:53:32AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
9:53:33AM YES, MA'AM.
9:53:34AM GO AHEAD.
9:53:36AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:53:37AM CONNIE BURTON.
9:53:39AM 568 IS REAL.
9:53:41AM IT'S NOT GOING TO GO ANYWHERE.
9:53:44AM IF YOU ARE PLANNING ON MOVING FORWARD POLITICAL, IT WILL
9:53:47AM FOLLOW YOU.
9:53:48AM LEGACY AND RED-LINING.
9:53:54AM THE SWITCHING OF WORDS BUT THE CONSEQUENCES ARE STILL THE
9:53:57AM SAME.
9:53:58AM RED-LINING, DENYING BLACK PEOPLE VALUE FOR THEIR PROPERTY
9:54:04AM THEN AND NOW WITH YOUR ITEM NUMBER 9 WILL ALSO BE DENYING
9:54:10AM BLACK PEOPLE OR OTHERS THE ABILITY TO MOVE FORWARD.
9:54:16AM THE REASON YOU'RE DOING IT, BECAUSE COMING THROUGH THE DOOR,
9:54:19AM IT'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER DEVELOPER THAT'S GOING TO GET A
9:54:23AM HUNDRED FREE PROPERTIES AGAIN.
9:54:25AM WHAT WE SEE HAPPENING NOW IN ALL OF EAST TAMPA IS HOUSING --
9:54:30AM HOUSES THAT COST OVER $600,000.
9:54:34AM I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR SALARIES SAY, BUT MOST PEOPLE IN OUR
9:54:37AM COMMUNITY CANNOT MOVE IN THOSE COMMUNITIES.
9:54:39AM ALL OF THE BEAUTIFUL PICTURES THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO
9:54:44AM PROPOSE IN THEIR POLITICAL PORTFOLIO OF THINGS THEY DID AS
9:54:48AM THEY WAS IN ADMINISTRATION, IT DIDN'T HELP US.
9:54:50AM AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO LET THAT DROP.
9:54:53AM IT IS NOT HELPING US.
9:54:55AM WE BELIEVE THAT THE CAC MADE CONSIDERATION THAT THOSE IN OUR
9:55:01AM COMMUNITY THAT COULD NOT GET IN THE GAME, LIKE YOU ALL
9:55:06AM ALWAYS LIFTING UP SOME OF THESE AREAS THAT WAS ECONOMICALLY
9:55:10AM DEPRESSED AND HAD A LOT OF BLIGHT, WHAT THEMSELF ABLE TO DO
9:55:14AM BEFORE YOU PASSED THIS PROPOSAL, THIS AGENDA ITEM, THEMSELF
9:55:18AM ABLE TO COME AND GET ALL THE MONEY.
9:55:20AM IT AIN'T NO MONEY TREES OUT HERE.
9:55:23AM HOW WAS THEY ABLE TO REDEVELOP ALL OF DOWNTOWN IF THEY
9:55:27AM DIDN'T GET SPECIAL TAXING AND SPECIAL CREDITS.
9:55:31AM HOW ABLE TO GO THROUGH WEST TAMPA AND DO ALL THAT THEY HAVE
9:55:34AM DONE?
9:55:35AM SPECIAL CONSIDERATION.
9:55:37AM SO WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS THAT SINCE NONE OF YOU ALL
9:55:42AM REPRESENT THE TRUE INTEREST OF DISTRICT 5, IT'S A VACANT
9:55:46AM SEAT UP THERE.
9:55:49AM SLOW THIS TRAIN DOWN.
9:55:50AM LET US HAVE SOMEBODY UP THERE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO
9:55:53AM DIALOGUE WITH TO SAY THIS IS THE INTEREST OF THE MAJORITY.
9:55:56AM WHILE YOU DO NOT HAVE PEOPLE FROM CHANNELSIDE NEVER COMING
9:56:01AM DOWN TO THIS PODIUM AND SAYING THEY REPRESENT DISTRICT 5.
9:56:05AM YOU KNOW WHY?
9:56:05AM BECAUSE THEY KNOW FINANCIAL BACKERS WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO
9:56:12AM DO EVERYTHING THEY NEED TO DO.
9:56:14AM THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME HERE AND SAY THEY ARE FROM THE
9:56:18AM DOWNTOWN HOUSING COMMUNITY.
9:56:19AM YOU KNOW WHY?
9:56:19AM BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE A PART OF DISTRICT 5, THEY KNOW
9:56:22AM IN DAYLIGHT, SUNLIGHT ON THE GOLF COURSE, THEY ARE GOING TO
9:56:26AM GET THEIR ISSUES TAKEN CARE OF.
9:56:28AM WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT IN SPITE OF THE MANAGER OF EAST
9:56:34AM TAMPA BEING BLACK, HE DO NOT SPEAK FOR THE WHOLE SUM OF US.
9:56:40AM NO.
9:56:41AM WE NEED OUR REPRESENTATIVE THERE TO SPEAK IN OUR INTERESTS.
9:56:45AM I KNOW YOU DON'T.
9:56:46AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
9:56:47AM NEXT, PLEASE.
9:56:53AM >> GOOD MORNING.
9:56:53AM ALISON HEWITT, THIRD GENERATION EAST TAMPA RESIDENT AND
9:56:56AM BUSINESS OWNER.
9:56:57AM ITEM NUMBER 9 WOULD EVENTUALLY SAY EAST TAMPA FOR SALE.
9:57:05AM IT IS SIGNIFICANTLY CHALLENGING THAT WE STARTED WORKING ON
9:57:09AM THESE GRANTS IN 2018.
9:57:11AM 2018 WE PROPOSED TO YOU THE PREDEVELOPMENT PROGRAM.
9:57:16AM THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED IT.
9:57:17AM THEN NICOLE TRAVIS AND HER TEAM TOOK IT BACK TO BE ABLE TO
9:57:21AM MAKE SURE THEY CREATED A PROCESS FOR CITY GOVERNMENT.
9:57:26AM HERE WE ARE, 2025, HARD AS OUR HEART THAT WE'RE ASKING TO
9:57:29AM YOU SLOW DOWN, EVEN THOUGH IT'S BEEN SEVEN YEARS.
9:57:32AM IT TAKES SEVEN YEARS TO GET A PROGRAM THAT'S GOING TO HELP
9:57:35AM THE COMMUNITY.
9:57:36AM ONE, THE NEW PROPOSAL, IF YOU ARE CONCERNED BECAUSE THEY SAY
9:57:42AM THE INTERIOR GRANTS NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT GETTING THE
9:57:45AM ATTENTION OF TALLAHASSEE, SO WE NEED TO ONLY DO IT TO
9:57:48AM ADDRESS CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUES, WELL, IF YOU WANT TO NOT
9:57:51AM GET TALLAHASSEE INTEREST, THEN WE HAVE TO LIMIT ALL
9:57:54AM DEVELOPMENT TO A MILLION DOLLARS.
9:57:57AM ANYTHING OVER MILLION DOLLARS ARE CITY INITIATED.
9:58:00AM THE CITY AND THE CRA HAS OWNED PROPERTY FOR THE LAST 10
9:58:04AM YEARS.
9:58:05AM IT HAS WEEDS GROWING ON IT NOW.
9:58:07AM THEY MAY MOW THE LAWN, BUT THE BUILDING HAS WEEDS.
9:58:10AM I TALKED TO CHIEF BENNETT AND SAID, OKAY, THEN CODE
9:58:13AM ENFORCEMENT NEEDS TO STOP CITING OUR BUSINESSES IF THE
9:58:16AM CITY-OWNED BUSINESSES YOU CANNOT MAINTAIN.
9:58:18AM UNDERSTAND, THERE'S MONEY IN THE BUDGET TO BE ABLE TO DO
9:58:20AM THAT BUT WE DON'T EVEN CLEAN THE BUILDINGS THAT THE CITY
9:58:24AM OWNS.
9:58:24AM TO BE ABLE TO NOT ATTRACT THE ATTENTION TO SAY NOW IN EAST
9:58:27AM TAMPA, HAVING THE GRANTS ROLL OUT, SMALL BUSINESSES, YOU'VE
9:58:31AM GOT TO HAVE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF YOUR MONEY TO GET 50% BACK.
9:58:35AM AGAIN, EAST TAMPA FOR SALE BECAUSE WHO CAN?
9:58:38AM SOMEONE WHO COMES UP WITH THE MONEY.
9:58:45AM YOU HAVE BUSINESSES HERE STRUGGLING TO MAKE SURE THIS THEY
9:58:47AM ARE -- THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO FEED THEIR EMPLOYEES.
9:58:51AM IF YOU HAD THE MONEY.
9:58:52AM IF YOU HAD THE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OR $500,000, WHY
9:58:55AM WOULD THEY GO THROUGH THE HEADACHE OF WORKING WITH THE CITY
9:58:58AM TO GET HALF THE MONEY BACK?
9:58:59AM WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS PUTTING IN PLACES, TYING THE ARMS.
9:59:06AM LIKE I SAID, EAST TAMPA IS NOW FOR SALE BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE
9:59:09AM MONEY AND YOU CAN INVEST, WE'LL GIVE YOU SOME INCENTIVES AND
9:59:12AM GIVE YOU YOUR MONEY BACK.
9:59:13AM BUT THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN THERE, INVESTED, TAKEN CARE OF
9:59:16AM THEIR FAMILIES, THEY CAN'T GET A SHOT AT THE TABLE.
9:59:18AM THE WAY THAT THEY HAVE CHANGED THE LEGACY CREDIT TO REDUCE
9:59:21AM IT TO ALMOST ZERO, IF YOU'VE BEEN THERE LESS THAN FIVE
9:59:24AM YEARS, YOU UNDERSTAND THEY HAVE EXISTED FOR FIVE YEARS, WHAT
9:59:27AM A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK THAT TAKES.
9:59:32AM I'M SORRY THAT WE HAVE TO ASK YOU TO DEFER THIS BECAUSE YET
9:59:34AM AGAIN, HERE WE ARE ADDING YEARS TO ANOTHER PROCESS TO GET
9:59:39AM SOMETHING DONE.
9:59:40AM DISTRICT FIVE IS BIGGER THAN EAST TAMPA, BUT THESE GRANTS
9:59:44AM RIGHT HERE, WE'RE ENERGIZING DEVELOPMENT FOR LOCAL
9:59:48AM DEVELOPERS, PROPERTY OWNERS TO DEVELOP THEIR PROPERTY.
9:59:51AM WE CANNOT TAKE AWAY THAT AND ACCELERATE GENTRIFICATION IN
9:59:54AM EAST TAMPA.
9:59:55AM PLEASE DEFER NUMBER 9.
9:59:56AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
9:59:57AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
9:59:58AM NEXT SPEAKER.
10:00:01AM IS MS. RODRIGUEZ ONLINE?
10:00:02AM OKAY.
10:00:03AM SHE MAY NOT MAKE IT.
10:00:05AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:00:05AM DR. ANGELA SKY, VICE-CHAIR OF THE JACKSON FOUNDATION.
10:00:09AM I WANT TO COME UP HERE AND SAY THANK YOU FOR VOTING YES ON
10:00:15AM NUMBER 10.
10:00:20AM AT THIS TIME, WE'LL SAY THANK YOU.
10:00:21AM WE KNOW THERE HAS BEEN SOME TIME OF NEGOTIATION WITH THE
10:00:25AM EASEMENT.
10:00:25AM SO WE WANT TO THANK THE CITY MAYOR.
10:00:28AM THANK HER ADMINISTRATION TEAM AND THANK YOU ALL ON THE CITY
10:00:31AM COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAVE VOTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH
10:00:35AM AMENDMENT 4 FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR PROJECT.
10:00:38AM THE JACKSON HOUSE FOUNDATION BOARD OF DIRECTORS HAVE GONE
10:00:43AM THROUGH THE RFP PROCESS.
10:00:44AM WE HAVE SELECTED THE FIRM AND IF THIS IS APPROVED TODAY,
10:00:50AM NUMBER 10, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT OF
10:00:52AM WHO THAT FIRM IS.
10:00:54AM WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU SAY YES TODAY TO NUMBER 10 SO
10:00:57AM THAT WE CAN NOTIFY THAT FIRM.
10:00:59AM I WANT TO PUBLICLY SAY THAT WE STAND AS THE JACKSON HOUSE
10:01:02AM BOARD WITH NUMBER 10 TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE EASEMENT SO
10:01:04AM THAT WE CAN RESERVE AND PRESERVE THE HISTORY, THE BLACK
10:01:08AM HISTORY WITH THE JACKSON HISTORIC HOUSE DOWNTOWN.
10:01:11AM THANK YOU.
10:01:12AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:01:14AM NEXT, PLEASE.
10:01:18AM >> GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL.
10:01:19AM ROBIN LOCKETT.
10:01:20AM JUST QUICKLY, WITH THIS TYPE OF OUTCRY ABOUT ITEM NUMBER 9,
10:01:26AM HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS FIND YOUR WAY TO CREATE A WORKSHOP SO
10:01:31AM THAT -- OR HAVE THE COMMUNITY INPUT TO REALLY TAKE INTO
10:01:35AM CONSIDERATION ABOUT THIS ITEM.
10:01:36AM YEAH, IT'S NEEDED.
10:01:40AM IT'S NEEDED.
10:01:42AM IN REGARDS TO A WORKSHOP OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
10:01:44AM I SUPPORT NUMBER 10.
10:01:49AM IF JACKSON HOUSE SUPPORTS IT I SUPPORT IT IN APPROVING THIS
10:01:52AM DEVELOPER.
10:01:53AM THANK YOU.
10:01:53AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
10:01:54AM HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY.
10:01:57AM >> THANK YOU.
10:01:57AM >>LUIS VIERA: YES, MA'AM.
10:01:57AM GOD BLESS YOU.
10:01:58AM NEXT.
10:01:59AM GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
10:02:00AM BEFORE, DOCTOR, IF I MAY, AFTER THIS GENTLEMAN HERE IS THERE
10:02:07AM ANYBODY ELSE SPEAKING FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
10:02:09AM MR. ROBINSON, ANYBODY ELSE?
10:02:10AM WE HAVE THREE MORE SPEAKERS.
10:02:20AM GO AHEAD, MA'AM.
10:02:21AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:02:22AM DR. CAROLYN COLLINS, CHAIR FOR THE JACKSON HOUSE FOUNDATION.
10:02:28AM I THINK OUR VICE-CHAIR INDICATED WHERE WE ARE IN THE
10:02:33AM PROCESS.
10:02:33AM I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE HERE.
10:02:36AM WE WERE PRESENT, AND THAT YOU KNOW THAT WE SUPPORT THE
10:02:42AM RESOLUTION THAT'S LISTED AT NUMBER 10, WHICH WOULD AFFORD US
10:02:46AM OPPORTUNITY AS INDICATED TO MOVE FORWARD.
10:02:51AM WITH THE BREACH, WHAT WE CALLED IT, WITH THE FAILURE THAT
10:02:54AM OCCURRED IN THE EAST UPPER CORNER OF THE HOUSE, WE ACTUALLY
10:03:00AM JUST SUBMIT A PRESS RELEASE.
10:03:03AM I LIKE TO MAKE SURE WHEN WE COME BEFORE YOU, WE LEAVE YOU
10:03:06AM SOMETHING.
10:03:06AM THAT WAS A PRESS RELEASE FROM NOT JUST THE BREACH, BUT WE
10:03:12AM DECIDED TO HAVE IT AFTER WE ACTUALLY SPOKE WITH THE THREE
10:03:17AM FIRMS DOWN AT THE HOUSE HAVING COMPLETED THAT FULL PROCESS.
10:03:23AM THANK YOU FOR -- AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE MAYOR
10:03:26AM AND ADMINISTRATIVE TEAM FOR WORKING WITH THE ACCARDIS AND
10:03:29AM REMOVING THE JACKSON HOUSE.
10:03:31AM I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVING IT
10:03:34AM A FEW THURSDAYS AGO.
10:03:35AM I'M GOING TO SAY THANK YOU IN HOPES THAT YOU WOULD APPROVE
10:03:38AM THIS TODAY SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
10:03:42AM THIS WILL ALLOW US, WHICH WE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THE CITY
10:03:45AM STAFF TO DO EMERGENCY REPAIR, EMERGENCY REPAIR FOR SAFETY.
10:03:53AM WE DO NOT WANT TO PUT A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF MONEY IN IT,
10:03:57AM BUT WE KNOW THE CONTRACTORS NEED TO GO IN, SO IT WAS
10:04:00AM MANDATED THAT WE DO THAT.
10:04:01AM I SAW COMMENTS FROM DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS IN PARTICULAR WITH
10:04:06AM COUNCIL WHO WAS MAKING COMMENTS ABOUT THE HOUSING, WANTING
10:04:10AM TO DO IT.
10:04:11AM WE RECEIVED A NUMBER OF CALLS FROM A NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS
10:04:13AM WHO ACTUALLY WANT TO SUPPORT IN WHAT THEY WANT TO
10:04:16AM CONTRIBUTE.
10:04:17AM WE ARE PLEASED AND HAPPY THAT WE HAVE FINALLY REACHED THIS
10:04:20AM POINT, AND WE WERE REMOVED OUT OF THE EQUATION.
10:04:24AM DO WE SUPPORT WHAT'S IN IT?
10:04:26AM WHETHER WE REALLY ARE LOOKING AT WHAT IS ACTUALLY IN THERE,
10:04:30AM THERE IS A PIECE THAT WE NEVER SAID WE WANTED TO DO BUT WE
10:04:34AM KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO IN ORDER TO SAVE THE HOUSE.
10:04:37AM LET ME CLOSE THE JACKSON HOUSE OFF NOW AND MAKE A COMMENT
10:04:42AM WITH NUMBER 9.
10:04:44AM IT WOULD BE LESS THAN HUMAN OF ME TO STAND HERE AND HEAR
10:04:49AM COMMENTS ABOUT WHATEVER IS GOING ON WITH NUMBER 9 THAT I'M
10:04:52AM NOT AWARE OF.
10:04:53AM BUT THERE HAVE BEEN TOO MANY PUBLIC CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN
10:04:56AM EXPRESSED ABOUT NUMBER 9 AND WHATEVER IS HAPPENING WITH IT.
10:05:03AM NOT SURE WHAT IS THE BEST PROCESS, BUT I KNOW I CAN SAY,
10:05:06AM LIKE I SAID, PLEASE SUPPORT NUMBER 10.
10:05:09AM I WOULD ASK THAT YOU DELAY AND NOT SUPPORT NUMBER 9.
10:05:12AM THANK YOU.
10:05:13AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:05:14AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
10:05:15AM NEXT, SIR.
10:05:16AM GO AHEAD.
10:05:20AM >> I'M SURGRET DOSS.
10:05:25AM AND ALTHOUGH I DID REALLY WANT TO GIVE YOU ALL MAXIMUM
10:05:28AM PRESSURE TODAY BECAUSE OF PRESENT COMPANY.
10:05:28AM ONE OF THE DOCTORS IN MY FAMILY, I FORGOT TO MENTION THE
10:05:32AM LAST TIME I WAS UP HERE.
10:05:34AM I'LL TAILOR THIS AGAIN TO BE NICE.
10:05:39AM I WANTED TO GIVE A LITTLE CONTEXT TO THIS PICTURE.
10:05:41AM YOU CAN'T GET THE FULL SCREEN, ANYWAY, THIS PICTURE WAS
10:05:46AM TAKEN A YEAR BEFORE I WAS BORN.
10:05:49AM SO THIS IS MARCH OF 1967.
10:05:53AM SO THE LITTLE GIRL IN THIS PICTURE WOULD BE AROUND 60 YEARS
10:05:56AM OLD, WHICH IS ABOUT THE AGE OF MANY PEOPLE I HAVE LISTED ON
10:06:02AM THIS DOCUMENT.
10:06:03AM ANYWAY, LOOK, IT'S BEEN ABOUT A WEEK SINCE I SENT EVERY ONE
10:06:08AM OF YOU ALL ALLEGATIONS, PROOF OF JUDICIAL MEDICAL DOCTOR AND
10:06:14AM ATTORNEY MISCONDUCT.
10:06:15AM I KNOW A COUPLE OF YOU ALL ARE ATTORNEYS, SO YOU HAVE AN
10:06:17AM OBLIGATION AND A DUTY TO RESPOND TO IT.
10:06:21AM I KNOW THAT DELUSIONAL, ENTITLED, INCOMPETENT, RACIST PEOPLE
10:06:26AM HATE UNILATERAL BLACK HAPPINESS AND HATE ANY KIND OF BLACK
10:06:32AM PUSH-BACK.
10:06:33AM I KNOW EVERY ONE OF YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
10:06:37AM THE LAW IS AKIN TO A COLORING BOOK.
10:06:39AM IT HAS THE OUTLINES AND YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO COLOR INSIDE THE
10:06:43AM LINES.
10:06:44AM DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, GET A SKETCH BOOK AND KIND OF GO OFF
10:06:49AM AS YOU WISH.
10:06:50AM THE PEOPLE HERE DON'T KNOW HOW TO COLOR WITHIN THE LINES.
10:06:53AM IF YOU WANT TO COLOR OUTSIDE THE LINES, HELL, YOU COULD HAVE
10:06:56AM DONE SOMETHING AS A PUBLIC OFFICIAL.
10:06:58AM EVERY ONE OF US TOOK AN OATH AT SOME POINT IN TIME.
10:07:01AM SOME OF US ACTUALLY DID IT WITH THE NAIVE EXPECTATION THAT
10:07:04AM THOSE AROUND US WHO DO THE SAME THING WOULD BE AT LEAST
10:07:08AM ADHERENT TO THAT OBLIGATION.
10:07:10AM NOT IN THIS DAMN CITY AT ALL.
10:07:12AM APOLOGIZE.
10:07:13AM ANYWAY, I'M FEELING LIKE JOB FROM THE BIBLE.
10:07:20AM I WENT TO THE VA A COUPLE OF SATURDAYS AGO.
10:07:24AM THEY SAY I HAVE A NABISCO BUMP ON MY BACK LIKE HE DID JOB.
10:07:31AM THAT NABISCO BUMP IS KIND OF LIKE, WELL, ACTUALLY IT IS A
10:07:37AM CYST.
10:07:38AM I WATCH WAY TOO MANY HIGH-SEEDED NABISCOS STEAL FROM THE
10:07:47AM PEOPLE WITHOUT YOU BEING THE FULCRUM OF JUSTICE THAT
10:07:50AM BALANCES IS THAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE.
10:07:52AM I HOPE I DID A GOOD JOB FOR THE PERSON WHO ASKED ME TO
10:07:56AM BEHAVE.
10:07:57AM BY THE WAY, I'M NOT SUICIDAL.
10:07:59AM I PLAN TO SEE THIS THING THROUGH TO THE END.
10:08:01AM I WANT TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT EVERYBODY NEEDS TO HOLD
10:08:04AM THESE KIND OF PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE.
10:08:07AM WE'LL ALL BE FAMOUS EVENTUALLY.
10:08:10AM ACTUALLY, WHAT I SENT YOU ALL HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH MY
10:08:13AM CURRENT LAWSUIT AND APPEAL IN THE FEDERAL COURT AGAINST THE
10:08:15AM CITY OF TAMPA.
10:08:16AM YOU ALL HAD A DUTY TO RESPOND.
10:08:18AM THAT BEING SAID, SHOUT-OUT TO THE GREATEST INSTITUTION OF
10:08:21AM HIGHER LEARNING IN CITY OF TAMPA.
10:08:24AM THOMAS JEFFERSON HIGH SCHOOL AND CLASS OF '59.
10:08:27AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:08:28AM APPRECIATE YOU.
10:08:28AM MR. ROBINSON I BELIEVE IS OUR LAST SPEAKER FOR PUBLIC
10:08:33AM COMMENT.
10:08:35AM >> I HATE TO DO THIS.
10:08:36AM JOE ROBINSON.
10:08:38AM THE PHRASE TO SIN BY SILENCE WHEN THEY SHOULD PROTEST MAKES
10:08:44AM COWARDS OUT OF MEN.
10:08:45AM IT IS A POWERFUL STATEMENT ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF SPEAKING
10:08:47AM OUT AGAINST INJUSTICE.
10:08:49AM WHILE OFTEN ATTRIBUTED TO ABRAHAM LINCOLN, IT ACTUALLY
10:08:53AM ORIGINATES FROM A POEM BY ELLA WHEELER WILCOX.
10:08:57AM THE QUOTE EMPHASIZES THAT REMAINING SILENT IN THE FACE OF
10:09:01AM WRONGDOING IS IN ITSELF A FORM OF MORAL FAILURE SUGGESTING
10:09:05AM THAT TAKING A STAND IS A NECESSARY ACT OF COURAGE.
10:09:08AM THAT'S WHY I'M UP HERE.
10:09:10AM LISTEN, I'M ON THE WEST SIDE.
10:09:12AM I WASN'T GOING TO SAY NOTHING.
10:09:13AM THE PEOPLE THAT JUST SPOKE ABOUT NUMBER 9 ARE ABSOLUTELY
10:09:17AM CORRECT.
10:09:17AM I GOT A PROBLEM WITH NUMBER 9.
10:09:19AM ON THE WEST SIDE.
10:09:22AM LEGACY STATUS, DON'T GIVE LEGACY STATUS FOR COMMERCIAL.
10:09:25AM GOT TO BE RESIDENTIAL.
10:09:26AM GOT TO BE THIS.
10:09:28AM C'MON, THIS LEGACY THING, LEGACY, NOT A LEGACY, OFFICE
10:09:31AM SPACE, CAN'T RUN A HOUSE THAT'S NOT A BUSINESS.
10:09:33AM I'M SICK OF IT.
10:09:34AM WE'RE GOING BACKWARDS. THE PEOPLE ARE RIGHT.
10:09:39AM NUMBER 9 NEEDS TO BE DRIVEN OFF THE TRACK.
10:09:42AM NUMBER 19 A PROBLEM FOR ME.
10:09:44AM I'VE BEEN OWNING PROPERTY IN THIS CITY IN EVERY LOCATION,
10:09:47AM YBOR CITY, WEST TAMPA, TAMPA HEIGHTS, OVER IN JACKSON
10:09:53AM HEIGHTS, BELMONT HEIGHTS.
10:09:54AM NOT NORTH YBOR.
10:09:57AM LITIGATING WITH THE CITY FOR DECADES AND DECADES ON CODE
10:10:02AM ENFORCEMENT AND TWO PEOPLE IN FEDERAL PRISON.
10:10:09AM YOU GUYS ARE GOING BACK TO THIS.
10:10:10AM SORRY, MY MAMA ROLLING OVER IN HER GRAVE THIS MORNING
10:10:13AM KNOWING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE JACKED AROUND IN WEST TAMPA,
10:10:16AM THE PROPERTY THAT I WORKED HARD FOR, CLEANING UP THE
10:10:19AM RIGHT-OF-WAY FOR THE CITY EVERY OTHER WEEK.
10:10:21AM I GOT A SERIOUS MEDICAL CONDITION.
10:10:27AM TIRED OF IT.
10:10:27AM NUMBER 9 IS NOT RIGHT.
10:10:29AM IT'S NOT FAIR.
10:10:30AM IT IS NOT EQUITABLE DISTRIBUTION OF CITY TAXPAYER FUNDS THAT
10:10:33AM ARE DERIVED FROM SLUM AND BLIGHTED AREA.
10:10:36AM LITIGATED.
10:10:41AM BY CERTAIN PROPERTY OWNERS.
10:10:45AM IT'S NOT FAIR.
10:10:46AM I'M SAYING IT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO PUT UP THE HEADACHES.
10:10:49AM I DONE TALK TO ABBYE.
10:10:51AM DONE TALK TO CEDRIC.
10:10:54AM ALL OF THEM.
10:10:54AM NUMBER 19 A PROBLEM FOR THE LEGACY THING.
10:10:58AM SOME PEOPLE GET IT.
10:10:59AM SOME PEOPLE DON'T.
10:11:00AM IF YOU ARE A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS, YOU CAN GET A LEGACY --
10:11:03AM RESIDENTIAL, YOU CAN'T GET IT.
10:11:04AM WHAT THE HELL AM I?
10:11:06AM RENT BUSINESSES, RENT PROPERTY.
10:11:07AM THAT AIN'T COMMERCIAL USE.
10:11:09AM I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
10:11:12AM IT'S WRONG.
10:11:13AM DON'T NEED TO PASS IT TODAY.
10:11:16AM IF SO, I MAY HAVE TO GO BACK TO BEING RADICAL PERSON, I
10:11:22AM DON'T WANT TO BE, BUT I HAVE MONEY NOW TO FIGHT THE SYSTEM.
10:11:25AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:11:26AM OKAY.
10:11:27AM THAT WOULD APPEAR TO BE THE END OF PUBLIC COMMENT.
10:11:29AM WE GO NEXT TO ITEM -- BY THE WAY, BEFORE WE GO FORWARD, I
10:11:33AM ALSO WANTED TO SAY THAT I BELIEVE THE NEXT CRA MEETING WILL
10:11:36AM FALL ON SEPTEMBER 11.
10:11:38AM THEREFORE, I'M HAVING THAT MEETING BEGIN AT 10:15 SO WE CAN
10:11:42AM GO TO THE SEPTEMBER 11 MEMORIAL BY TAMPA FIRE RESCUE.
10:11:51AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MOTION BY BOARD CHAIR VIERA.
10:11:53AM A SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
10:11:55AM ALL IN FAVOR TO START NEXT MONTH'S CRA MEETING AT 10:15.
10:12:05AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:12:06AM ANY OPPOSED.
10:12:07AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MADAM.
10:12:09AM APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH.
10:12:09AM NOW FOR PURPOSES OF NUMBER 1, WHAT IS THE TIME LIMIT FOR MR.
10:12:16AM ROBINSON ON THIS?
10:12:17AM I'M TRYING TO GAUGE TIME.
10:12:20AM >> [INAUDIBLE]
10:12:21AM >>LUIS VIERA: OKAY.
10:12:21AM GOOD.
10:12:22AM JUDGE SALCINES, ARE YOU GOOD WAITING ANOTHER 10, 15 MINUTES?
10:12:25AM I WOULD ASSUME SO.
10:12:27AM JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.
10:12:28AM WE'LL DO ITEM NUMBER 1.
10:12:31AM GO AHEAD.
10:12:32AM >> GOOD MORNING, CRA BOARD MEMBERS.
10:12:34AM BRENDA THROWER.
10:12:35AM I'M THE WEST TAMPA DEVELOPMENT MANAGER.
10:12:37AM AND I AM HERE TO INTRODUCE MR. JOE ROBINSON WHO WILL BE
10:12:42AM GIVING YOU AN UPDATE OF THE ACTIVITIES HAPPENING IN THE WEST
10:12:44AM TAMPA CRA.
10:12:53AM >> I GOT MY OTHER HAT ON.
10:12:55AM THE NICE GUY.
10:12:56AM JOE ROBINSON, 2338 -- WEST TAMPA, THE SCAGLIONE HOUSE.
10:13:03AM IN FIVE MINUTES, I WANT TO THANK CEDRIC McCRAY, BRENDA
10:13:07AM THROWER AND BEE PARKS FOR MAKING AND GIVING US AND KEEPING
10:13:10AM US MOVING FORWARD WITH ALL OF THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT CAME
10:13:14AM BEFORE THEM TO GET WEST TAMPA TO BE A PREMIER CRA.
10:13:17AM WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING.
10:13:19AM WE KNOW HOW TO DO IT AND WE KNOW HOW TO COLLABORATE WITH
10:13:22AM OTHERS LIKE THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, THE DEVELOPERS, AND
10:13:25AM EVERYBODY ELSE.
10:13:27AM BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THESE OTHER THINGS, WE'VE GOT TO BE
10:13:30AM CAREFUL.
10:13:30AM FOR EXAMPLE, SOME OF OUR ACHIEVEMENTS ARE MAJOR
10:13:33AM IMPROVEMENTS.
10:13:34AM WEST TAMPA CAC HAS BEEN ENGAGED IN MANY WEST TAMPA PARKS.
10:13:38AM INCLUDE SALCINES PARK.
10:13:41AM SALCINES PARK.
10:13:42AM GROUNDBREAKING CEREMONY LAST APRIL.
10:13:45AM CONSTRUCTION UNDER WAY WITH RIBBON CUTTING COMING IN EARLY
10:13:48AM 2026.
10:13:49AM REY PARK, EX-MAYOR OF WEST TAMPA.
10:13:54AM 90% COMPLETE IN JUNE.
10:13:55AM SITE PLAN PERMITTING IN PROCESS AND GROUNDBREAKING IN THE
10:13:58AM FALL OF 2025.
10:13:59AM FREEDOM PARK.
10:14:03AM ENVIRONMENTAL IS COMPLETE.
10:14:06AM PERMIT PENDING AND WORK -- PLANNING AND DESIGN TO BE
10:14:10AM ANNOUNCED.
10:14:11AM FREMONT AVENUE GRID, REESTABLISH OUR STREETS AGAIN.
10:14:15AM SOMEONE TO STUDY THAT.
10:14:19AM WE'LL DO THAT.
10:14:20AM WEST RIVERFRONT PROJECT, VERY CONTROVERSIAL BUT ECONOMIC
10:14:24AM ENGINE FOR US.
10:14:25AM CRA IS A PARTNER WITH THE PROJECT WITH CONTRIBUTION OF OVER
10:14:28AM 10 MILLION OUT OF OUR FUNDS ECONOMIC GENERATOR.
10:14:36AM MAIN STREET, RESURFACING, FOUR WAY STOP AT MAIN AND ALBANY,
10:14:42AM LOOKING GOOD THROUGH THERE.
10:14:44AM NEW BUSINESS OPENING, COHATCH.
10:14:45AM COME IN AND PUT SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS ON MAIN STREET.
10:14:49AM WEST TAMPA CHAMBER HAS MOVED INTO THE CRA.
10:15:00AM NEW RESTAURANTS, BARBEQUE KING, LUCKY TIGER.
10:15:05AM NEW PUBLIX THAT WON'T MEET WITH US, BUT PUBLIX ON NORTH
10:15:11AM BOULEVARD TO OPEN UP PROVIDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
10:15:14AM WEST RIVER APARTMENTS.
10:15:16AM WEST TAMPA HOUSING PROJECT.
10:15:19AM THE HOUSING REHABILITATION, RENOVATION PROGRAM.
10:15:21AM HRRP HAS BENEFITED NEW AND RETURNING RESIDENTS TO WEST
10:15:25AM TAMPA.
10:15:26AM PEOPLE COMING BACK AND SUPPORTING THEIR DREAMS OF HOME
10:15:29AM OWNERSHIP.
10:15:30AM THE PROGRAM GIVES A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO HOMEOWNERS,
10:15:38AM TO THE TAMPA CRA AND HELPS BRING HOMES INTO COMPLIANCE WITH
10:15:41AM CITY OF FLORIDA'S BUILDING CODE.
10:15:44AM TWO HOUSES UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
10:15:46AM PRECONSTRUCTION AND 12 APPLICATIONS DISTRIBUTED WITH ONE --
10:15:52AM LAND ACQUISITION.
10:15:53AM LAND IS NOT GOING DOWN CHEAP IN WEST TAMPA.
10:15:57AM WE'RE TRYING TO BUY WHAT WE CAN.
10:15:58AM LAST MONTH, CRA ACQUIRED THREE CONTIGUOUS WEST TAMPA,
10:16:02AM APPROXIMATELY 1.1 ACRES ON -- BETWEEN HOWARD AND ARMENIA FOR
10:16:06AM AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
10:16:07AM SITE PREP AND DEMOLITION PLANNING UNDERWAY.
10:16:09AM WE LOOK FORWARD TO PARTICIPATING IN THE FUTURE COMMUNITY
10:16:12AM VISION.
10:16:13AM ANY PROPERTY WE BUY WE MUST GO TO THE COMMUNITY AND ASK WHAT
10:16:16AM YOU WANT TO DO WITH IT.
10:16:18AM THANK YOU UP THERE.
10:16:19AM 30 YEARS AGO, RADICAL AGAIN.
10:16:24AM THE CAC HAS ALSO RECOMMENDED HISTORIC PROPERTY ACQUISITION
10:16:28AM LOCATED ON MAIN STREET COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
10:16:31AM ON THE AGENDA TODAY.
10:16:32AM PLEASE APPROVE IT.
10:16:34AM MIXED USE PROJECT.
10:16:35AM VISION TO ACQUIRE FUTURE AFFORDABLE ATTAINABLE HOUSING AND
10:16:39AM POSSIBLE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
10:16:40AM WEST TAMPA COMMERCIAL GRANTS, CONTROVERSIAL WITH ME.
10:16:44AM COMMERCIAL GRANTS TEAM BRIEFED WEST TAMPA ON UPDATES.
10:16:47AM GOT IT ON 9.
10:16:49AM NEEDS TO BE STOPPED ON THE TRACKS.
10:16:51AM WEST TAMPA IS ONE OF THE MOST ACTIVE DISTRICTS.
10:16:54AM 15 APPLICATIONS.
10:16:56AM PEOPLE IN THERE, MADE APPLICATION.
10:16:58AM NOW WE HAVE NEW RULES.
10:17:01AM SHUT IT DOWN.
10:17:06AM PAYING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN TAXES LAST 60
10:17:09AM YEARS, NO BENEFITS.
10:17:11AM SITTING HELPING WEST TAMPA.
10:17:13AM THAT IS A SHAME.
10:17:14AM PUBLIC ART.
10:17:18AM LOOK AROUND, YOU'LL SEE A WRAP.
10:17:21AM VERY BEAUTIFULLY DONE.
10:17:22AM F.D.O.T. ISN'T MESSING WITH THEM.
10:17:25AM OUR ART CAME FROM OUR MONEY -- BOTTOM LINE, REY PARK MURAL
10:17:38AM BEING RE-CREATED.
10:17:40AM PUT IT INSIDE THE BUILDING.
10:17:43AM BRAND-NEW BUILDING NAMED AFTER MAN WEST TAMPA.
10:17:47AM BRAND-NEW FOR THE STUDENTS, FOR THE CHILDREN AND ALL THAT.
10:17:51AM WE KEEP THAT HISTORY OF WHAT HAPPENED ABOUT THE KIDS THAT
10:17:55AM BURNED UP IN THE FIRE ACROSS THE STREET.
10:17:57AM IN CLOSING, NOT GOING TO SAY NOTHING ABOUT ROME YARD, ABBYE
10:18:02AM BEFORE SHE WENT TO TALLAHASSEE.
10:18:04AM LITTLE DELAY BECAUSE OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL LAND CLEANUP.
10:18:10AM IT'S GETTING BACK ON SCHEDULE.
10:18:13AM THEY WILL BE BREAKING GROUND IN THE NEXT MONTH.
10:18:17AM ROME YARD AND PEOPLE ASKING ME WHAT'S GOING ON.
10:18:20AM FINALLY, BEEN A PLEASURE TO SERVE ON THE WEST TAMPA CAC.
10:18:23AM AS THE CHAIR.
10:18:27AM BUT IF YOU GUYS WANT TO START THE FIGHT THAT I FOUGHT FOR 15
10:18:34AM YEARS IN COURT, IN FEDERAL COURT, WITH THE FBI AND EVERYBODY
10:18:37AM ELSE AROUND HERE, DON'T START IT.
10:18:40AM GET THIS NUMBER 9 STRAIGHT.
10:18:42AM I'M TELLING YOU.
10:18:43AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:18:44AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
10:18:45AM COUNCIL MEMBERS, BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
10:18:49AM >>LYNN HURTAK: MR. ROBINSON, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:18:51AM IT'S REALLY A PLEASURE TO SEE WEST TAMPA STARTING TO
10:18:57AM PURCHASE PROPERTIES AND CREATE THEIR -- STARTING TO FIGURE
10:19:02AM OUT WHAT TO DO WITH IT.
10:19:03AM I WANT TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO YOUR CAC FOR STARTING TO
10:19:09AM SEE WHAT EAST TAMPA IS DOING AND STARTING TO DO THE SAME.
10:19:12AM I THINK IT IS A REALLY, REALLY GOOD THING.
10:19:15AM I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK YOU ARE DOING.
10:19:18AM I THINK THE ACQUISITION WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE SOME REAL
10:19:21AM CHANGE.
10:19:22AM I'M ALSO HAPPY TO SAY THAT YOU ALL GET TO DECIDE WHAT YOU
10:19:25AM WANT TO DO WITH THAT.
10:19:28AM I'M GLAD YOU MADE THAT POINT BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S REALLY
10:19:32AM IMPORTANT.
10:19:32AM SO THANK YOU.
10:19:34AM >> I GOT TO GO, MA'AM.
10:19:36AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
10:19:38AM ANYBODY ELSE?
10:19:38AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:19:42AM NEXT, I'LL PASS THIS OUT, IF I MAY.
10:19:47AM I MAY HAVE TO GO UP THERE WITH THIS, HERE WITH JUDGE
10:19:51AM SALCINES.
10:20:32AM >> CORY ROBINSON, ARTS AND CULTURAL PROJECT COORDINATOR,
10:20:36AM TAMPA CRA.
10:20:36AM I'M HERE TODAY TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON ITEM 3 FOR THE
10:20:40AM LIEUTENANT BALDOMERO LOPEZ MONUMENT.
10:20:42AM CRA STAFF HAVE COLLABORATED WITH CITY DEPARTMENTS AND BOARD
10:20:45AM MEMBER VIERA AND JUDGE SALCINES TO IDENTIFY A SUITABLE
10:20:48AM LOCATION FOR THIS MONUMENT AFTER A FEW DIFFERENT LOCATIONS
10:20:53AM WERE LOOKED INTO FOR THIS PROJECT, THE CURRENT SELECTED
10:20:56AM LOCATION IS WATER WORKS PARK ADJACENT TO WHERE LIEUTENANT
10:20:59AM BALDOMERO HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED WITH AN EXISTING PLAQUE.
10:21:13AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:21:13AM THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO APPEAR BEFORE YOU TODAY.
10:21:18AM IT'S MOST SIGNIFICANT THAT THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW WILL BE
10:21:21AM THE 100 BIRTHDAY OF THE BIRTH OF OUR HERO FROM TAMPA,
10:21:26AM LIEUTENANT BALDOMERO LOPEZ.
10:21:33AM ON SEPTEMBER 15 OF THIS YEAR, JUST TWO WEEKS AWAY, WILL BE
10:21:36AM THE 75th ANNIVERSARY OF HIS DEATH.
10:21:40AM MOST IMPORTANT FROM U.S. HISTORY, SEPTEMBER 15 WILL BE THE
10:21:48AM 75th ANNIVERSARY OF THE HISTORIC INVASION OF INCHON IN
10:21:55AM KOREA THAT CHANGED THE KOREAN WAR FROM A LOSING PROPOSITION
10:22:02AM TO A WINNING PROPOSITION.
10:22:03AM IT WAS THE DAY OF SEPTEMBER 15, 1950, 75 YEARS AGO COMING UP
10:22:11AM THIS SEPTEMBER 15 THAT OUR TAMPA-HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY HIGH
10:22:17AM SCHOOL GRADUATE AND GRADUATE OF THE U.S. NAVAL ACADEMY,
10:22:22AM FIRST LIEUTENANT BALDOMERO LOPEZ, THE SON OF A SPANISH
10:22:27AM IMMIGRANT AND AN ITALIAN SICILIAN MOTHER, GAVE HIS LIFE TO
10:22:33AM SAVE HIS PLATOON AND HIS OFFICERS WERE SO IMPRESSED THAT
10:22:39AM THEY WROTE TO GENERAL MacARTHUR RECOMMENDING THAT THIS
10:22:44AM LATIN BOY FROM TAMPA, FLORIDA, A GRADUATE OF THE ANNAPOLIS
10:22:49AM NAVAL ACADEMY, RECEIVE THE CONGRESSIONAL MEDAL OF HONOR.
10:22:55AM WHATEVER YOU DO, YOU'RE DOING IT IN A MOST TIMELY MANNER,
10:22:59AM ESPECIALLY WITH HIS 100 BIRTHDAY THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW.
10:23:02AM SEPTEMBER 15 BEING THE 75th ANNIVERSARY OF HIS HEROIC
10:23:10AM DEATH.
10:23:10AM I URGE YOU ON BEHALF OF THE CITIZENRY TO DO THIS GOOD
10:23:15AM RECOGNITION FOR THIS TAMPA HERO.
10:23:18AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:23:21AM [ APPLAUSE ]
10:23:24AM >>LUIS VIERA: I WANTED TO INTRODUCE JUDGE SALCINES BECAUSE
10:23:29AM HE IS A COUPLE OF THINGS.
10:23:30AM JUST AN AMAZING PERSON.
10:23:31AM FOR ME, HE IS MR. HISPANIC HERE IN TAMPA.
10:23:34AM HE IS MR. LATINO HERE IN TAMPA.
10:23:36AM I REMEMBER YEARS AGO, JUDGE, WHEN I HEARD YOU SPEAK ON
10:23:40AM BALDOMERO LOPEZ, I WAS IN PRIVATE PRACTICE HUNDRED PERCENT
10:23:43AM OF THE TIME.
10:23:44AM SAID WILL TAKE YOU ON A TOUR OF BALDOMERO LOPEZ.
10:23:48AM PICKED ME UP IN HIS CADILLAC AT MY OLD LAW FIRM AND TOOK ME
10:23:52AM AROUND ALL THE SITES.
10:23:54AM YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS GENTLEMAN'S BACKGROUND, BUT I WANTED TO
10:23:58AM LET THE PUBLIC KNOW ABOUT THE AMAZING MAN THAT WE HAVE HERE
10:24:00AM HELPING LEAD THIS CHARGE.
10:24:02AM JUDGE SALCINES IS OUR FORMER STATE ATTORNEY HERE, LONGTIME
10:24:06AM STATE ATTORNEY FOR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY.
10:24:07AM ALSO APPOINTED TO THE SECOND DISTRICT COURT OF APPEALS,
10:24:11AM GOVERNOR LAWTON CHILES.
10:24:13AM HIS FAMILY IS ORIGINALLY FROM SPAIN.
10:24:15AM LATE FATHER LIKE JUDGE SALCINES WAS A PATRIOT WHO SOLD WAR
10:24:20AM BONDS FOR THE COUNTRY IN WORLD WAR II TO SUPPORT THE WAR
10:24:24AM EFFORT.
10:24:24AM HE WENT TO THE SOUTH TEXAS COLLEGE OF LAW OVER IN TEXAS
10:24:28AM WHICH SINCE THEN HAS BECOME AN INSTITUTION FOR SO MANY
10:24:33AM ATTORNEYS, ESPECIALLY HISPANIC JUDGES AND ATTORNEYS TO GO
10:24:36AM TO.
10:24:36AM HE SUFFERED FROM GREAT DISCRIMINATION AS AN HISPANIC EARLY
10:24:40AM ON, INCLUDING STETSON COLLEGE OF LAW WHERE I WOULD GO 40
10:24:44AM YEARS LATER, BY THE WAY, IRONICALLY.
10:24:46AM HE WOULD GO TO SOUTH TEXAS.
10:24:48AM HE WOULD BE AN AMAZING, JUST A BRIDGE BUILDER FOR PEOPLE IN
10:24:53AM THE STATE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HIRING AMONG MANY, MANY OTHERS,
10:24:57AM JUDGE VIRGINIA COVINGTON, THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN STATE
10:25:00AM ATTORNEY WHO WOULD BECOME OUR FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN JUDGE.
10:25:03AM GEORGE EDGECOMB AMONG SO MANY OTHERS.
10:25:06AM JUST SUCH AN HISTORIC MAN.
10:25:08AM KNIGHTED BY KING CARLOS OF SPAIN FOR THE ROYAL ORDER OF
10:25:12AM QUEEN YSABELLA.
10:25:14AM THAT AMONG MANY, MANY OTHER HONORS.
10:25:16AM HE BECAME A MEMBER OF THE FLORIDA BAR NOVEMBER OF 1963,
10:25:20AM SEVEN DAYS BEFORE PRESIDENT KENNEDY WAS MURDERED.
10:25:24AM IN CLOSING, WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THIS MAN'S PUBLIC
10:25:28AM SERVICE AND CAREER, IT IS WHAT PRESIDENT KENNEDY TALKED
10:25:31AM ABOUT, ABOUT GIVING BACK IN PUBLIC SERVICE.
10:25:33AM THAT'S WHAT THIS GUY DOES.
10:25:35AM I WANTED TO SPEAK VERY BRIEFLY ON A COUPLE OF THINGS.
10:25:38AM NUMBER ONE, AS JUDGE SALCINES NOTED ON SEPTEMBER 15 OF 1950,
10:25:43AM IT WAS THE DEATH OF LIEUTENANT BALDOMERO LOPEZ WHO WILLINGLY
10:25:46AM GAVE HIS LIFE IN INCHON, KOREA.
10:25:50AM THIS IS WHY I WANTED TO COME UP HERE.
10:25:52AM IS IT ON THE SCREEN?
10:25:56AM LIEUTENANT BALDOMERO LOPEZ, VERY FAMOUS PHOTOGRAPH LITERALLY
10:26:00AM SECONDS BEFORE HIS DEATH.
10:26:01AM THAT'S AN ICONIC PHOTOGRAPH.
10:26:04AM SO WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER.
10:26:05AM I MOTIONED TO HAVE CITY STAFF AND CITY STAFF HAS BEEN
10:26:08AM WONDERFUL TO WORK WITH ON A STATUE FOR BALDOMERO LOPEZ.
10:26:13AM THESE ARE INFORMAL RENDERINGS THAT I WANTED TO SHOW THE
10:26:17AM PUBLIC AND THE COMMUNITY HERE.
10:26:19AM THESE ARE VERY INFORMAL, BUT THIS WILL SHOW YOU WHAT WE'RE
10:26:22AM LOOKING AT.
10:26:23AM SOMETHING THAT WILL BE MAJESTIC AND LIFE SIZE TO HONOR THIS
10:26:26AM GREAT AMERICAN WHO, BY THE WAY, WAS THE SON OF IMMIGRANTS,
10:26:29AM PATRIOT AND VERY RELEVANT IN THE YEAR 2023 AS SON OF
10:26:33AM IMMIGRANTS.
10:26:34AM INFORMAL RENDERING OF WHAT WE'LL BE LOOKING AT.
10:26:38AM OBVIOUSLY SUBJECT TO CHANGE.
10:26:41AM ANOTHER ONE HERE.
10:26:42AM THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
10:26:44AM THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO COME UP HERE, COUNCIL.
10:26:48AM I AM GOING TO BE MOTIONING FOR A WRITTEN REPORT ON THE
10:26:55AM STATUS OF THE TIMELINE OF THE LIEUTENANT BALDOMERO LOPEZ
10:26:59AM MONUMENT, EXACT LOCATION IN WATER WORKS AND FINAL COST
10:27:02AM ESTIMATE TO BE BROUGHT BACK TO CRA FOR THE --
10:27:06AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: SECOND.
10:27:07AM >>LUIS VIERA: THERE YOU GO.
10:27:08AM OCTOBER 16 MEETING.
10:27:10AM I'M DOING THAT BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT A BUDGET.
10:27:12AM WE THINK WE CAN GET MOST OF IT WITHIN THE CRA, MR. McCRAY,
10:27:17AM IF YOU NEED TO SPEAK TO THAT.
10:27:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE'RE NOT HAVING A MEETING IN OCTOBER.
10:27:21AM IT WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO BE NOVEMBER.
10:27:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: LET'S DO NOVEMBER.
10:27:25AM >>LYNN HURTAK: NOVEMBER THE 13th.
10:27:27AM >>LUIS VIERA: HAVE THIS DONE BY THE SEPTEMBER 15 OF NEXT
10:27:31AM YEAR.
10:27:32AM I THINK THAT GOD WILLING WE CAN DO THAT.
10:27:34AM GO UP THERE TO MAKE THE MOTION, IF I MAY.
10:27:37AM I WANTED TO MAKE THOSE.
10:27:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR?
10:27:40AM AYE.
10:27:42AM SO WE HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
10:27:49AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BOARD MEMBER VIERA, THANK YOU FOR
10:27:51AM BRINGING THIS UP, AND THANK YOU, JUDGE, FOR BEING HERE WITH
10:27:55AM US.
10:27:56AM THIS IS A GREAT AMERICAN HERO.
10:27:59AM THE FIRST MEDAL OF HONOR RECIPIENT BORN IN TAMPA.
10:28:03AM WE HAVE OTHERS AT WOODLAWN OFF BOULEVARD.
10:28:06AM THEY ARE FROM THE CIVIL WAR.
10:28:08AM I KNOW THERE ARE TWO OVER THERE.
10:28:10AM BUT WITH BALDOMERO LOPEZ, THIS IS RECENT HISTORY.
10:28:15AM I KNEW A GENTLEMAN WHO DIED ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO WHO
10:28:18AM GRADUATED HILLSBOROUGH HIGH SCHOOL '43.
10:28:22AM AND BALDOMERO LOPEZ WAS HIS ROTC COMMANDER.
10:28:27AM HE KNEW HIM PERSONALLY.
10:28:28AM THAT GENTLEMAN PASSED AWAY.
10:28:30AM HIS BROTHER IS 102 YEARS OLD, ALL NAVY GUYS.
10:28:34AM HE WENT INTO THE MARINES AFTER IN KOREA.
10:28:36AM I'M GOING TO ASK THE LIVING BROTHER, WHO IS 102, TO SEE IF
10:28:41AM HE KNEW HIM.
10:28:43AM HE GRADUATED I BELIEVE IN '42 FROM HILLSBOROUGH.
10:28:48AM IF WE CAN BRING HIM DOWN, WORLD WAR II VETERAN, SERVED IN
10:28:56AM THE PACIFIC.
10:28:57AM AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT 1920, A HUNDRED YEARS AGO.
10:29:01AM THIS IS MY GRANDPARENTS' GENERATION.
10:29:03AM YOUR FATHER, JUDGE, I WOULD HEAR STORIES AND, OF COURSE, HIS
10:29:08AM BUSINESS ON HOWARD AND MAIN STREET, WHICH WE'RE REDOING THE
10:29:11AM STORE, THAT SAME GENTLEMAN WHO WAS A COMMANDER HERE THAT
10:29:19AM WENT TO HILLSBOROUGH, HE WOULD TELL ME STORIES ABOUT -- THEY
10:29:22AM CALL IT CNO, CASUALTY NOTIFICATION OFFICER, BUT WHEN A
10:29:26AM SOLDIER WAS KILLED -- WAS YOUR FATHER INVOLVED IN DELIVERING
10:29:32AM THE NEWS TO THE PARENTS AND THE FAMILY MEMBERS WHEN A
10:29:34AM SOLDIER WAS KILLED IN WORLD WAR II?
10:29:38AM >> MY FATHER HAD RECENTLY RECEIVED A PRESIDENTIAL CITATION
10:29:43AM FOR ALL THE WAR BONDS THAT HE HAD SOLD WITH SOME OTHER
10:29:48AM GENTLEMAN HERE IN TAMPA, A RECORD NUMBER OF WAR BONDS THAT
10:29:52AM WERE SOLD TO FINANCE THE SECOND WORLD WAR.
10:29:55AM BUT THE KOREAN WAR CAME UP VERY QUICKLY AND UNFORTUNATELY
10:30:00AM BALDOMERO GAVE HIS LIFE.
10:30:03AM A LOT OF PEOPLE SERVED, BUT SOME GIVE THEIR BEST.
10:30:07AM AND BALDOMERO DID THAT.
10:30:10AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: YEP.
10:30:10AM AND HAVING THE STATUE HERE ON A VERY -- IN A VERY PROMINENT
10:30:15AM LOCATION, AS WAS MENTIONED IS GREAT.
10:30:21AM I GO THROUGH THERE EVERY MORNING.
10:30:23AM PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW THE NAME.
10:30:26AM WHERE HE IS BURIED -- I'VE BEEN TO THE GRAVE MANY TIMES.
10:30:32AM AGAIN, THIS IS ONE OF TAMPA'S MOST IMPORTANT, FAVORITE SONS
10:30:38AM AND A TRUE AMERICAN HERO.
10:30:39AM THIS IS THE LEAST WE CAN DO FOR THE SACRIFICE HE MADE.
10:30:42AM OF COURSE, YOU SHOWED THE PHOTOGRAPH.
10:30:44AM I KNOW YOU HAVE IT IN YOUR OFFICE.
10:30:46AM THAT PHOTO HAS BEEN EVERYWHERE.
10:30:51AM I'M SO HAPPY TO SUPPORT THIS AND I'M GLAD THIS WAS BROUGHT
10:30:54AM UP.
10:30:54AM THANK YOU.
10:30:55AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:30:56AM BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:30:58AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I WANT TO ECHO WHAT MR. MANISCALCO SAID.
10:31:02AM JUST THIS MORNING WE'RE HAVING A CASUAL CONVERSATION ON THE
10:31:06AM WAY TO THE ROOM.
10:31:08AM WE WERE TALKING, THIS GUY TO MY LEFT, HE KNOWS WHERE
10:31:11AM EVERYBODY IS BURIED.
10:31:13AM HE WAS EVEN TELLING ME WHERE I WAS GOING TO BE BURIED.
10:31:16AM HE NAMED EVERYBODY'S GRAVE WITHIN A BLOCK AND A HALF OF
10:31:24AM WHERE I'LL BE LOCATED AT.
10:31:26AM I DON'T ALLOW VISITORS, BY THE WAY.
10:31:28AM WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS I'M NOT EVER GOING TO DEBATE GUIDO
10:31:33AM MANISCALCO WHEN IT COMES TO HISTORY.
10:31:35AM YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY, WHAT YOU'VE DONE FOR WEST TAMPA,
10:31:38AM YOUR SERVICE, CAME UP THE HARD WAY, YOU AND ANOTHER FORMER
10:31:42AM JUDGE MARTINEZ WERE ASKED TO LEAVE IN A WAY FROM A COLLEGE,
10:31:46AM I WON'T MENTION THE COLLEGE NAME AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU
10:31:48AM WERE ACCEPTED AT SOUTH -- WHAT THEY CALL IT NOW WEST TAMPA
10:31:52AM AND TAMPA E.J. UNIVERSITY, THE REAL NAME OF IT IN OUR
10:31:57AM COMMUNITY, HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU'VE HELPED GET NOT ONLY LAW
10:32:00AM DEGREES BUT EMPLOYMENT WHEN YOU WERE A CIVIL SERVANT FOR
10:32:04AM MANY YEARS AND BECAME A JUDGE UNDER LAWTON CHILES.
10:32:09AM IT'S HISTORICAL WHAT YOU'VE DONE AND WHAT YOUR FAMILY HAS
10:32:13AM DONE TO MAKE TAMPA A MUCH BETTER PLACE TO LIVE.
10:32:16AM BALDOMERO LOPEZ KNEW HE WAS GOING TO DIE.
10:32:18AM ONCE HE DID THAT, HE KNEW HE WAS NOT GOING TO COME OUT.
10:32:21AM WHEN YOU KNOW THAT, THAT REALLY MAKES YOU A HERO.
10:32:24AM WHAT MANISCALCO SAID IS ALL FACTUAL AND WHAT YOU HAVE DONE,
10:32:32AM JUST UNBELIEVABLY IMPORTANT TO THE HISTORY OF TAMPA.
10:32:35AM THANK YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.
10:32:43AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO THANK CHAIR VIERA, CORY AND OTHERS
10:32:47AM FOR PROVIDING A TRIBUTE, TAMPA AND AMERICAN HERO.
10:32:51AM ALSO THANK JUDGE SALCINES.
10:32:53AM I KNOW YOU ARE IN MORE DEMAND THAN PLACES YOU CAN SHOW UP.
10:33:00AM EVERY TIME I HEAR YOU SPEAK, I'M REMINDED THAT YOU ARE THE
10:33:03AM VOICE OF TAMPA HISTORY AND YOU ARE THE VOICE OF TELLING
10:33:05AM STORIES OF TAMPA.
10:33:06AM THIS IS A CRAZY IDEA, BUT I JUST THOUGHT OF IT.
10:33:11AM WHEN JAMES EARL JONES DIED, ANOTHER ICONIC VOICE, DISNEY
10:33:16AM WORKED WITH AN A.I. COMPANY TO RECORD HIS VOICE TO USE IT IN
10:33:20AM THE FUTURE FOR VARIOUS CHARACTERS.
10:33:24AM SOMEHOW WE NEED TO PRESERVE NOT JUST WHAT YOU KNOW, WHICH IS
10:33:27AM IMPOSSIBLE, YOU HAVE A HUGE COMPUTER BANK IN YOUR HEAD, BUT
10:33:30AM WE NEED TO SOMEHOW REMEMBER YOUR VOICE.
10:33:32AM MY KIDS, MY GRANDKIDS SHOULD BE ABLE TO HEAR TAMPA'S HISTORY
10:33:36AM IN YOUR VOICE.
10:33:39AM I HOPE WE CAN WORK WITH YOU TO DO THAT SOMEHOW.
10:33:49AM >>LUIS VIERA: I ALWAYS LIKE TO MENTION THE OTHER I KNOW OF.
10:33:52AM THERE IS RONALD RAY, MEDAL OF HONOR RECIPIENT FROM VIETNAM,
10:33:57AM WHO IS STILL WITH US.
10:33:59AM I THINK HE LIVES IN GEORGIA.
10:34:00AM AND THEN PAUL RAY SMITH, WHO WENT TO TAMPA BAY TECH, WHO IS
10:34:00AM IN ARLINGTON AND DIED IN IRAQ.
10:34:04AM BUT I WANTED TO SAY IN CLOSING THAT WHEN I MOTIONED FOR THIS
10:34:08AM TO NOT HAVE THIS MAN LEAD THE CHARGE WOULD BE A GRAVE
10:34:13AM INJUSTICE BECAUSE EVERYONE'S SINCE DAY ONE, THAT MARKER FOR
10:34:16AM BALDOMERO LOPEZ, HE GOT THAT.
10:34:18AM MAKING HILLSBOROUGH HIGH SCHOOL THE SCHOOL KNOWN FOR
10:34:20AM BALDOMERO LOPEZ, HE DID THAT.
10:34:23AM HE IS THE CHAMPION OF BALDOMERO LOPEZ.
10:34:25AM AS HISPANIC ATTORNEY, I GET TEARY EYED SAYING THIS, WE'RE
10:34:32AM ANGERED THAT HISPANICS CRYING.
10:34:35AM THAT'S ME.
10:34:36AM >>LYNN HURTAK: JUDGE SALCINES, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING
10:34:40AM TODAY AND CONTINUING TO LEAD THIS CHARGE THAT IS SO
10:34:46AM IMPORTANT AND IMPORTANT TO OUR CITY'S HISTORY.
10:34:48AM WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT THIS MORNING.
10:34:51AM >> THANK YOU, MA'AM.
10:34:52AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ONE LAST THING, JUDGE, SINCE YOU ARE
10:34:55AM HERE.
10:34:55AM I SAY THIS ALL THE TIME.
10:34:57AM I MET YOU THROUGH MY GRANDMOTHER I DON'T KNOW 30 YEARS AGO
10:35:01AM AND YOU SHOWED ME YOUR CUFF LINK COLLECTION.
10:35:04AM NEVER SEEN SO MANY CUFF LINKS IN MY LIFE.
10:35:08AM FOUR PEOPLE, CHARLIE MIRANDA, JUDGE SALCINES, DICK GRECO AND
10:35:12AM BOB MARTINEZ, GOVERNOR BOB MARTINEZ.
10:35:14AM AFTER YOU GUYS ARE GONE AND I HOPE YOU ALL LIVE TO 110 YEARS
10:35:18AM OLD, THAT'S IT.
10:35:19AM IT'S A LIBRARY OF INFORMATION.
10:35:26AM YOU'RE THE LAST OF THAT GENERATION THAT I REMEMBER GROWING
10:35:29AM UP.
10:35:30AM YOU'RE VERY SPECIAL.
10:35:31AM WE ALWAYS APPRECIATE WHEN YOU COME HERE.
10:35:33AM THANK YOU.
10:35:34AM THANK YOU FOR COUNCILMAN VIERA FOR BRINGING YOU TODAY.
10:35:37AM IT'S ALWAYS -- YOU ARE LIVING HISTORY.
10:35:42AM WE APPRECIATE YOU.
10:35:43AM THANK YOU.
10:35:43AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE DO.
10:35:44AM THANK YOU.
10:35:45AM I'VE BEEN ASKED BY THE CLERK, FOR THE RECORD, CAN WE HAVE A
10:35:47AM MOTION THAT APPROVES THE CURRENT AGENDA FOR TODAY?
10:35:50AM WE HAVE A MOTION FROM BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
10:35:54AM A SECOND FROM BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:36:01AM ALL IN FAVOR?
10:36:02AM >>CORY ROBINSON: ARTS AND CULTURAL COORDINATOR, CRA.
10:36:07AM I WANT TO CLOSE THE TOPIC WITH A FEW BRIEF UPDATES ABOUT
10:36:10AM THIS PROJECT.
10:36:11AM AFTER THE LAST MEETING ABOUT THE SITE WITH THE PARKS
10:36:13AM DEPARTMENT, THERE WERE CONCERNS OF STRUCTURAL ISSUES THAT
10:36:17AM MAY RAISE COST AT THIS LOCATION.
10:36:19AM WE HAVE A PRELIMINARY ESTIMATE OF COST OF 152,000.
10:36:22AM DUE TO STRUCTURAL CONCERNS, WE CANNOT BE SURE OF THE EXACT
10:36:25AM AMOUNT TODAY.
10:36:26AM WE ARE CURRENTLY MEETING WITH PARKS AND THE ARTS AND
10:36:29AM CULTURAL DEPARTMENTS TO DETERMINE THE FULL AMOUNT NEEDED AND
10:36:31AM WE WILL PROVIDE THAT UPDATE AT THE NEXT MEETING IN NOVEMBER.
10:36:34AM THANK YOU.
10:36:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK: GREAT.
10:36:36AM THANK YOU.
10:36:36AM THE NEXT MEETING IS IN SEPTEMBER, BUT NOVEMBER WITH THE
10:36:42AM UPDATE.
10:36:44AM APPRECIATE THAT.
10:36:48AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: CEDRIC McCRAY, TAMPA CRA DIRECTOR.
10:36:51AM I HAVE THE HONOR OF STARTING THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT.
10:36:55AM I WANT TO BRING UP LAUREN GREEN.
10:36:57AM YOU HAVE RECEIVED THE CUSTOMARY TRACKERS FOR YOUR REVIEW.
10:37:03AM THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA UNDER DIRECTOR'S REPORT WILL BE
10:37:06AM THE NEWSLETTER.
10:37:08AM YOU SHOULD HAVE THE FRESH HOT OFF THE PRESS COPY AT YOUR
10:37:13AM SEAT AT THE DAIS.
10:37:14AM WE ALSO SENT FIVE OR SIX NAMES BECAUSE WE WANTED TO POLL THE
10:37:20AM BOARD AS IT RELATES TO THE NAMING OF THE NEWSLETTER OUTSIDE
10:37:23AM OF THE QUARTERLY NEWSLETTER.
10:37:25AM LAST MONTH WE HAD MR. HALL WHO HAS BEEN ACTIVE WITH THE
10:37:28AM SUMMER YOUTH PROGRAM FOR THE TAMPA CRA AS WELL AS THE CITY
10:37:33AM OF TAMPA AND WE HAVE A STUDENT INTERN, MS. LAUREN GREEN.
10:37:37AM I BELIEVE SHE WAS INTRODUCED LAST WEEK.
10:37:40AM THIS IS A PART OF OUR CAPSTONE PROJECT FOR THE SUMMER.
10:37:43AM SHE WILL BE LEAVING TODAY OR TOMORROW, HER OFFICIAL LAST
10:37:45AM DAY.
10:37:46AM WE WANTED HER TO SHEPHERD THIS THROUGH.
10:37:49AM I'LL ASK MS. GREEN TO COME UP.
10:37:51AM SHE'LL SPEAK TO IT AND YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION AND
10:37:56AM SUGGESTED NAMES AND WE'LL TAKE A QUICK POLL AND LET US KNOW
10:37:59AM WHAT YOUR PLEASURE IS.
10:38:00AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WONDERFUL.
10:38:06AM >> GOOD MORNING.
10:38:06AM MY NAME IS LAUREN GREEN.
10:38:08AM I AM A SECOND-YEAR GRADUATE STUDENT AT THE UNIVERSITY OF
10:38:11AM FLORIDA.
10:38:12AM I HAVE THE -- RIGHT, GO GATORS.
10:38:15AM I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF INTERNING WITH OUR CRA BOARD THIS
10:38:18AM SUMMER.
10:38:20AM ONE OF OUR PROJECTS THAT I'M ESPECIALLY PROUD OF IS OUR
10:38:22AM NEWSLETTER FOR THE SUMMER, WHICH I WILL PRESENT.
10:38:25AM I AUTHORED THE FEATURE STORY OF OUR QUARTERLY NEWSLETTER
10:38:33AM WHICH I TITLED INNOVATION AND TECHNOLOGY MAKE A DEBUT IN
10:38:36AM TAMPA, WHICH IT HAS WITH OUR CRA HOUSING INITIATIVE
10:38:39AM APPLICATION OR THE GIS MAP, WHICH HALL PRESENTED AT OUR LAST
10:38:45AM MEETING.
10:38:46AM WHAT IS UNIQUE ABOUT THIS APPLICATION IS THAT IT ALLOWS
10:38:48AM VIEWERS AND RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE APPLICATION
10:38:53AM AND REVIEW ALL THE INVESTMENTS THAT OUR WONDERFUL TEAM HAS
10:38:57AM INVESTED INTO COMMUNITY PROJECTS SUCH AS TREE TRIMMING
10:39:00AM SERVICES, ROOFING REPAIRS, AND EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE
10:39:04AM PROGRAMS, DOWN PAYMENT REHABILITATION.
10:39:08AM AND THAT'S REALLY TOUCHING TO ME AS AN INTERN AND AS A
10:39:13AM RESIDENT OF TAMPA TO SEE HOW MUCH WE CARE AND HOW INVESTED
10:39:16AM WE ARE IN THE COMMUNITY.
10:39:17AM TO ADD ON TO THAT, I'D ALSO LIKE TO PRESENT ONE OF THE
10:39:22AM SEVERAL STORIES WE PRODUCED IN OUR NEWSLETTER.
10:39:25AM ONE OF WHICH REALLY STANDS OUT TO ME.
10:39:27AM I'M NOT SURE IF YOU CAN SEE.
10:39:29AM OKAY.
10:39:30AM THE DREW PARK ROADWAY INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
10:39:35AM ABOUT A MONTH AGO, I ATTENDED A WALKING TOUR WITH ONE OF OUR
10:39:40AM STAFF MEMBERS AROUND DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS IN DREW PARK,
10:39:44AM ROADWAY INTERSECTIONS SPECIFICALLY WHERE MANY COLLISIONS HAD
10:39:47AM OCCURRED AND SEVERAL FATALITIES, TOO.
10:39:49AM THE REASON WHY THAT REALLY STOOD OUT TO ME AND THE PROJECT
10:39:54AM WE'RE DOING, SAFETY, CONNECTIVITY, MOBILITY ARE THE TOP
10:39:57AM PRIORITIES IN REDUCING THE NUMBER OF FATALITIES IS BECAUSE I
10:40:00AM GOT TO THINKING, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS SOMEONE'S PARENT.
10:40:04AM THAT WAS SOMEONE'S CHILD OR THAT WAS SOMEONE'S FRIEND.
10:40:07AM EITHER WAY, THEY ARE ALL HUMAN BEINGS AND CHILDREN OF GOD
10:40:10AM AND THEY DESERVE TO LIVE.
10:40:12AM AND THEY DESERVE TO FEEL SAFE IN THEIR COMMUNITIES, TOO.
10:40:16AM I'M REALLY PROUD OF THE UPGRADES, WHICH I DISCUSSED IN THIS
10:40:19AM SECTION, WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE SAFER MECHANISMS TO
10:40:23AM ENSURE THAT FUTURE COLLISIONS AND FATALITIES DON'T OCCUR.
10:40:27AM THE REASON WHY I THINK THIS WAS A REALLY IMPORTANT PROJECT
10:40:31AM IS BECAUSE IT TAKES A COMMUNITY AND A GROUP OF PEOPLE TO
10:40:35AM REALLY CARE ABOUT ONE ANOTHER AND NOT JUST LISTEN TO THE
10:40:38AM NEEDS OF THEIR COMMUNITY AND THE CITIZENS IN IT, BUT TO
10:40:41AM ACTUALLY PUT FORTH THE EFFORT TO IMPROVE THE LIVES OF THOSE
10:40:45AM AROUND THEM.
10:40:45AM I'M REALLY GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE AUTHORED
10:40:48AM PART OF THE NEWSLETTER AND TO HAVE WORKED WITH OUR WONDERFUL
10:40:51AM BOARD THIS SUMMER.
10:40:52AM THANK YOU.
10:40:52AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WONDERFUL.
10:40:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR
10:40:57AM COMPASSION, THE THINGS THAT YOU SAID.
10:40:59AM CHILDREN OF GOD.
10:41:01AM THANK YOU.
10:41:01AM WE NEED MORE OF THAT.
10:41:03AM SO PEOPLE WATCHING AND PEOPLE LISTENING, LEARN FROM THAT.
10:41:06AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:41:07AM YOU SAID IT BEAUTIFULLY.
10:41:08AM THANK YOU.
10:41:09AM >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
10:41:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
10:41:12AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, NO.
10:41:13AM I'M SORRY.
10:41:13AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OKAY.
10:41:14AM I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:41:16AM I PARTICULARLY LOVE THE REALLY JOYFUL PHOTOGRAPHS,
10:41:20AM ESPECIALLY THE ONE ON THE TOP.
10:41:22AM IT WAS JUST GREAT FROM LAST MONTH ABOUT HAVING OUR INTERNS
10:41:28AM SHARE THAT SPACE.
10:41:29AM I LOVE THE WAY THAT EVERYBODY GOT A LITTLE LOVE IN THE
10:41:34AM NEWSLETTER.
10:41:34AM CONGRATULATIONS.
10:41:36AM YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB.
10:41:39AM >> THANK YOU.
10:41:42AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: BECAUSE MS. GREEN HAS DONE A FABULOUS JOB
10:41:45AM THIS SUMMER OVER THE LAST SELF, EIGHT WEEKS.
10:41:48AM WE WANT TO PROVIDE A CERTIFICATE OF APPRECIATION FROM THE
10:41:50AM TAMPA CRA STAFF.
10:41:51AM SHE HAS DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB WORKING WITH US IN THE SECOND
10:41:56AM FLOOR OF THE TAMPA MUNICIPAL OFFICE BUILDING.
10:41:58AM MS. GREEN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:41:59AM >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:42:00AM [ APPLAUSE ]
10:42:06AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CONGRATULATIONS.
10:42:07AM >> THANK YOU.
10:42:09AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I STILL THINK WE HAVE A NAMING.
10:42:16AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: WHATEVER THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD IS AT
10:42:18AM THIS TIME.
10:42:19AM WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT NOW.
10:42:20AM IF YOU WANT TO E-MAIL TO US.
10:42:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK: PUT THE NAMES ON THE WOLF FOR US SO WE CAN
10:42:27AM DEBATE?
10:42:53AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: WE DON'T HAVE A PHYSICAL COPY, BUT WE CAN
10:42:55AM DO IT VIA E-MAIL, AND YOU ALL CAN LET US KNOW, IN THE
10:42:58AM ESSENCE OF TIME.
10:42:58AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT WORKS PERFECT.
10:43:00AM THANK YOU SO MUCH.
10:43:00AM REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
10:43:02AM LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT NAMES WE CHOOSE.
10:43:04AM NEXT --
10:43:19AM ALWAYS A TEACHER.
10:43:20AM IN THE INTEREST OF TIME AND WAITING TO SEE IF OUR CHAIR WILL
10:43:23AM COME BACK, CAN WE MOVE THE REQUIRED APPROVALS THAT DON'T --
10:43:27AM THAT WE HAVE NOT PULLED FOR EXTRA CONVERSATION?
10:43:31AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT NUMBER 10.
10:43:35AM >>LYNN HURTAK: OH, YEAH.
10:43:36AM GO RIGHT AHEAD.
10:43:39AM MIGHT AS WELL.
10:43:40AM >>BILL CARLSON: I WANT TO REMIND THE PUBLIC AND THE JACKSON
10:43:43AM HOUSE FOUNDATION THAT THE JACKSON HOUSE IS A PROJECT OF THE
10:43:48AM CRA, NOT THE CITY.
10:43:49AM AND TO THE EXTENT THAT CITY STAFF HAVE BEEN INVOLVED, IT WAS
10:43:54AM UNDER THE DIRECTION OF THE CRA AND SUPPORTED BY THE CRA, NOT
10:43:57AM THE CITY.
10:43:58AM TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THE MAYOR WAS NOT PERSONALLY INVOLVED IN
10:44:01AM NEGOTIATING THE DEAL AT ALL.
10:44:02AM I TALKED TO THE PARTIES INVOLVED.
10:44:04AM WILL PROBABLY GET AN E-MAIL CORRECTION FROM THE
10:44:06AM COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT TODAY.
10:44:07AM BUT THE POINT IS THAT -- FIRST OF ALL, IT CAUSES POLITICAL
10:44:16AM CONFUSION WHEN PEOPLE SAY THAT.
10:44:18AM THE SECOND THING, WE HAVE AN OVERALL SYSTEMIC COMMUNICATION
10:44:21AM PROBLEM WITH THE CRA THAT EVERY TIME THE MAYOR'S OFFICER OR
10:44:25AM COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT TRY TO TAKE CREDIT FOR A CRA
10:44:28AM PROJECT BY THE MAYOR, WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT IT GETS BLASTED
10:44:31AM ONLINE.
10:44:32AM GOOD EXAMPLE COMING UP IN A MINUTE, THE BRICKING OF THE
10:44:35AM STREETS.
10:44:35AM ALMOST ALL THE COMMUNICATION THAT WENT OUT WAS RECEIVED
10:44:39AM NEGATIVELY.
10:44:39AM IF YOU LOOK AT THE STORIES ABOUT US FINALLY CLOSING THE DEAL
10:44:43AM WITH THE CRA THE OTHER DAY, BECAUSE IT WENT OUT AS A CITY
10:44:48AM PROJECT INSTEAD OF CRA PROJECT, NOT CLEARLY DEFINED AS A CRA
10:44:52AM PROJECT, THE PROBLEM IS THE PUBLIC GETS ANGRY, WHY AREN'T
10:44:56AM YOU USING THE MONEY TO SAVE A DILAPIDATED HOUSE.
10:44:59AM IN THE CASE OF THE BRICKS, WHY YOU USING THE MONEY TO TEAR
10:45:03AM UP A PERFECTLY GOOD STREET TO PUT IN BRICKS?
10:45:06AM IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE GIVE THE CRA CREDIT, NOT BECAUSE
10:45:09AM OF US INDIVIDUALLY BUT BECAUSE WE NEED TO EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE
10:45:12AM WHERE THE MONEY IS COMING FROM.
10:45:14AM IN THE CITY, THERE ARE ROADS FALLING APART, PARKS FALLING
10:45:18AM APART AND YES, AREAS, WHERE THE STORMWATER MAINTENANCE HAS
10:45:20AM NOT BEEN DONE BECAUSE THEY ARE ON A SEVEN-YEAR SCHEDULE AND
10:45:24AM ONLY A YEAR INTO IT.
10:45:25AM AS PEOPLE'S HOUSES ARE FLOODING, THEIR TIRES ARE POPPING AND
10:45:32AM PARKS ARE FALLING APART OR THINGS ARE BEING TAKEN OUT OF
10:45:35AM PARKS, THEY ARE FRUSTRATED.
10:45:36AM WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SAY THIS IS CRA
10:45:39AM MONEY AND EXPLAIN WHAT CRA MONEY IS AS OPPOSED TO CITY
10:45:42AM MONEY.
10:45:43AM OTHERWISE, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE, ANYTHING THAT SHOULD BE
10:45:45AM A POSITIVE ANNOUNCEMENT, SAVING THE JACKSON HOUSE OR BRICKS
10:45:48AM IN THE STREET, IS GOING TO TURN INTO A NEGATIVE AND
10:45:50AM UNNECESSARY NEGATIVE.
10:45:52AM THANK YOU.
10:45:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
10:45:54AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:45:56AM FIRST, I WANT TO THANK DR. COLINS AND HER TEAM.
10:45:59AM THE ACCARDIS, ALL THE PARTNERS INVOLVED IN FINALLY GETTING
10:46:02AM THIS DONE.
10:46:05AM THE FIRST THING I TOLD THE FORMER MAYOR BEFORE I GOT SWORN
10:46:09AM IN TEN YEARS AGO, WHAT ABOUT THE JACKSON HOUSE?
10:46:12AM IF IT WAS YOUR HOUSE OR MY HOUSE, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN TORN
10:46:16AM DOWN A LONG TIME AGO.
10:46:17AM THAT WAS THE RESPONSE.
10:46:18AM WHEN IT CAME TO THE BRICKING OF YBOR CITY, I WAS AT THE
10:46:23AM TROPICANA ON 7th AVENUE, LIKE 10 PEOPLE.
10:46:26AM I SAID I'D LOVE TO SEE THIS ROAD REBRICKED.
10:46:29AM I'M GLAD WE'RE USING THE CRA MONEY, AS YOU SAID, TO DO THIS,
10:46:33AM BECAUSE THAT ROAD WAS BRICK UNTIL THE 1960s.
10:46:37AM THE ADMINISTRATION MODERNIZED EVERYTHING AND NOW WE'RE
10:46:40AM TAKING IT BACK TO WHAT IT WAS.
10:46:42AM WE HAVE TWO GREAT APPROVALS TODAY AND ALSO THE MEMORIAL PARK
10:46:46AM CEMETERY MONUMENT, THAT HASN'T BEEN MENTIONED.
10:46:49AM THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
10:46:50AM COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON IS RIGHT.
10:46:53AM THIS IS A CRA PROJECT.
10:46:54AM THERE WERE OBSTACLES IN THE WAY, ESPECIALLY FOR THE JACKSON
10:46:57AM HOUSE.
10:46:58AM I WOULD TALK TO PEOPLE, OH, THE HOUSE WILL FALL DOWN.
10:47:01AM THE IMPORTANCE OF THE STRUCTURE, CONSIDERING THAT SO MUCH
10:47:05AM BLACK HISTORY WAS ELIMINATED BECAUSE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD,
10:47:07AM THERE IS THE CHURCH, WHICH HAS BEEN REDONE.
10:47:10AM JACKSON HOUSE, LONGSHOREMEN'S BUILDING, KID MASON, VERY FEW
10:47:15AM STRUCTURES FROM THE ORIGINAL NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE HAVE TO
10:47:17AM PRESERVE IT.
10:47:17AM THE JACKSON HOUSE IS ONE OF THE MOST PIVOTAL AND MOST
10:47:20AM IMPORTANT.
10:47:20AM MY BEST OF LUCK TO DR. COLINS AND HER LEADERSHIP AND ALL THE
10:47:25AM PARTNERS INVOLVED IN MAKING IT.
10:47:26AM IT'S LONG OVERDUE.
10:47:28AM BUT I KNOW IT WILL GET DONE AND IT WILL BE A GEM IN THIS
10:47:32AM COMMUNITY.
10:47:32AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
10:47:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:47:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I MAY BE MISCHARACTERIZING THIS, BASED ON
10:47:40AM A COMMENT I HEARD FROM THE CRA DIRECTOR, HE HAS SUGGESTIONS
10:47:44AM FOR NUMBER 9.
10:47:45AM MAYBE APPROPRIATE TO CONTINUE THIS UNTIL OCTOBER --
10:47:48AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE'RE NOT THERE YET.
10:47:49AM WE'RE DEALING WITH EVERYTHING --
10:47:51AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WAS GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE
10:47:53AM NUMBER 9.
10:47:54AM >>LYNN HURTAK: WE'RE NOT THERE YET.
10:47:56AM I ALREADY MADE A DEAL.
10:48:02AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: I WILL BACK TRACK AND WAIT FOR FURTHER
10:48:04AM INFORMATION.
10:48:18AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR BRINGING UP THE
10:48:21AM CEMETERY MONUMENT.
10:48:22AM IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
10:48:23AM THE FACT THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO REDO THAT IS WONDERFUL.
10:48:25AM WE TALKED ABOUT THE PURCHASE OF THE WEST TAMPA PROPERTY OFF
10:48:30AM OF MAIN STREET.
10:48:31AM THE BRICKING PROJECT, WHICH, AGAIN, VERY IMPORTANT TO YBOR,
10:48:36AM THE APPROVAL OF THE JACKSON HOUSE, WHICH I BELIEVE IS THE
10:48:39AM FINAL STEP THAT GETS TO US WHERE WE NEED TO GO.
10:48:41AM AND, OF COURSE, NUMBER 11, WHICH NOBODY HAS MENTIONED YET,
10:48:45AM AND THAT IS THE BUDGET APPROVAL.
10:48:46AM I WANT TO SAY THAT WE HAVE THE ROLLOVER AMOUNTS IN A
10:48:52AM PRESENTATION.
10:48:53AM I BELIEVE THAT CHAIR -- RATHER, DIRECTOR McCRAY HAD ASKED
10:48:58AM US TO APPROVE THIS.
10:49:01AM BECAUSE NOTHING HAS CHANGED.
10:49:02AM IT JUST SHARES THE ROLLOVER AMOUNTS.
10:49:05AM IF WE HAVE ANY ADDITION QUESTIONS, WE CAN REACH OUT TO HIM.
10:49:08AM I THINK ROLLOVER AMOUNTS ARE VERY INTERESTING.
10:49:11AM I WILL ASK THAT DIRECTOR McCRAY ADD THIS TO THE AGENDA.
10:49:19AM THIS WASN'T ON OnBase BEFORE.
10:49:21AM PLEASE MAKE SURE IT GETS INTO OnBase SO THE GENERAL PUBLIC
10:49:24AM CAN SEE AS WELL WHAT'S AVAILABLE.
10:49:25AM IN THAT INTEREST, IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO
10:49:29AM MOVE ITEMS 6, 7, 8, 10, 11.
10:49:32AM I HAVE A MOTION FROM BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
10:49:34AM A SECOND FROM BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
10:49:35AM ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
10:49:38AM AGAIN, JUST TO PICK UP ON NUMBER 9, WE HEARD FROM THE
10:49:46AM COMMUNITY.
10:49:47AM I TALKED TO DIRECTOR McCRAY IN THE LOBBY -- WE HAVEN'T
10:49:58AM MADE A MOTION BUT PLANNING TO DO A WORKSHOP NEXT MONTH OVER
10:50:03AM HOUSING, CORRECT, IN McCRAY?
10:50:05AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: YES, MA'AM.
10:50:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I TALKED TO HIM ABOUT THE IDEA OF BEING ABLE
10:50:09AM TO ADD IN THIS COMMERCIAL GRANT CONVERSATION INTO THAT
10:50:14AM WORKSHOP TO HAVE TWO SEPARATE WORKSHOPS ON THE SAME DAY OF
10:50:18AM THAT.
10:50:18AM MY ONLY CONCERN, DIRECTOR McCRAY IS THAT WE WILL NEED TO
10:50:23AM MOVE SOME ITEMS OFF OF THAT AGENDA.
10:50:27AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: YES, IT'S GETTING VERY BUSY.
10:50:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK: IF EVERYBODY COULD TURN TO SEPTEMBER 11 IN
10:50:32AM THEIR CALENDAR, WHAT CAN WE POSSIBLY MOVE TO OTHER DATES?
10:50:41AM THE REASONING BEHIND DIRECTOR McCRAY'S HOPE TO GET THIS
10:50:44AM DONE ON SEPTEMBER 11 IS BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE A CRA MEETING
10:50:48AM IN OCTOBER DUE TO THE FACT THAT IS THE SAME WEEK AS THE FRA
10:50:52AM CONFERENCE AND ALL OF OUR STAFF WILL BE THERE.
10:50:58AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: THIS IS A COMPLEX ISSUE.
10:51:00AM IS IT APPROPRIATE IN A WORKSHOP OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE
10:51:03AM NEED TO BE WORKING DIRECTLY WITH STAFF AND THEN BRING THIS
10:51:08AM BACK?
10:51:11AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK WE NEED TO DO BOTH.
10:51:13AM IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL TO HAVE STAFF BRIEF US ABOUT BOTH.
10:51:17AM I ALREADY GOT A BRIEFING ABOUT HOUSING.
10:51:18AM I DON'T KNOW THAT EVERYONE ELSE HAS GOTTEN ONE.
10:51:22AM YES, TO TALK ABOUT IT.
10:51:23AM A WORKSHOP DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN WE HAVE TO APPROVE
10:51:26AM SOMETHING RIGHT AWAY.
10:51:28AM I THINK IT IS -- FOR ME, IT IS AN INFORMATIONAL THING TO
10:51:31AM MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS IT AS WELL.
10:51:35AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT I HATE TO SEE, HAVING A TEAM OF SIX
10:51:40AM CONVOLUTED, ESPECIALLY -- THIS IS SUCH A COMPLEX AND
10:51:43AM MULTILAYERED THING, IT'S JUST GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT TO
10:51:48AM ACCOMPLISH IN A GROUP DISCUSSION OR WORKSHOP DISCUSSION.
10:52:01AM >>BILL CARLSON: I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO ADD A FIFTH
10:52:03AM THURSDAY.
10:52:04AM I WISH WE HAD AN HOUR OR TWO TO DISCUSS AMONG OURSELVES.
10:52:07AM I READ ALL OF IT, AS YOU GUYS PROBABLY DID.
10:52:10AM IT'S ONE THING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH STAFF.
10:52:13AM UNFORTUNATELY, STAFF CAN'T BE CONDUITS BETWEEN US AND WE
10:52:16AM CAN'T SPEAK TO EACH OTHER OUTSIDE OF THE MEETINGS.
10:52:20AM IT WOULD HELP.
10:52:21AM I FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT THE CONTRACT RENEWAL WITH THE
10:52:23AM CITY, THE OUTSOURCE AGREEMENT.
10:52:25AM THAT IS A SEPARATE CONVERSATION.
10:52:29AM DURING OR BEFORE WE MOVE THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THREE
10:52:34AM QUICK SUGGESTIONS.
10:52:35AM DO IT NOW OR WAIT UNTIL --
10:52:37AM >>LYNN HURTAK: LET'S SEE WHAT BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO HAS TO
10:52:41AM SAY.
10:52:41AM WE HAVE SOME TIME TODAY.
10:52:42AM THERE'S NO REASON WE CAN'T DISCUSS IT MORE.
10:52:45AM YES.
10:52:45AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: I'M GLAD THIS HAS COME UP.
10:52:48AM I RECEIVED MULTIPLE PHONE CALLS AND I DON'T GET A LOT OF
10:52:51AM PHONE CALLS.
10:52:52AM I GOT PHONE CALLS FROM UNEXPECTED PEOPLE.
10:52:54AM PEOPLE ARE PAYING ATTENTION TO THIS.
10:52:56AM I APPRECIATE MS. DEE REED YESTERDAY.
10:52:58AM SHE GAVE ME A VERY -- VERY IN-DEPTH PLAY-BY-PLAY ON
10:53:06AM EVERYTHING.
10:53:07AM SO I APPRECIATE THAT.
10:53:08AM BUT THE COMMUNITY HAS CONCERNS.
10:53:11AM MR. ROBINSON SPOKE EARLIER.
10:53:15AM HE HAD MENTIONED CERTAIN THINGS.
10:53:18AM WE NEED MORE TIME.
10:53:20AM THE COMMUNITY -- EAST TAMPA IS THE MOST IMPORTANT CRA.
10:53:25AM IT IS THE MOST UNDERSERVED, MOST UNDERPRIVILEGED, AND WE
10:53:29AM HAVE TO BE CAREFUL MOVING FORWARD.
10:53:31AM I KNOW THAT THERE IS STATE STATUTE THAT WE HAVE TO GO BY.
10:53:35AM I SPOKE AT LENGTH WITH ALISON HEWITT.
10:53:38AM E-MAILS FROM KELLA McCASKILL.
10:53:40AM THE PHONE CALLS, EVERYTHING.
10:53:42AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE BEFORE WE MOVE ANYTHING THAT WE COVER
10:53:45AM OUR BASES AND THE COMMUNITY KNOWS WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED AND
10:53:48AM WHAT'S HAPPENING.
10:53:49AM IN REGARDS TO -- I ASKED A QUESTION YESTERDAY, WHAT HAPPENS
10:53:52AM IF WE POSTPONE THIS?
10:53:53AM THE PEOPLE WAITING FOR THE FUNDING, CAN'T THEY JUST GET
10:53:57AM APPROVAL BASED ON THE EXISTING POLICY?
10:54:00AM OR DO WE HAVE TO -- DOES EVERYTHING GET POSTPONED?
10:54:06AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: YOU HAVE INDIVIDUALS WAITING FOR THE
10:54:08AM REVISIONS TO TAKE PLACE BECAUSE SOME OF THE CHANGES WILL
10:54:11AM BENEFIT THEM.
10:54:11AM AND THEIR APPLICATIONS, PENDING APPLICATIONS.
10:54:15AM WHAT I WOULD REQUEST IS THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME TIME, THAT
10:54:20AM WE BE ALLOWED TO PRESENT.
10:54:22AM I KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENT, E-MAILS,
10:54:27AM PHONE CALLS, SOME OF THE PROBLEMS IS MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT
10:54:31AM SOME OF THE CHANGES.
10:54:32AM I WOULD LIKE US TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY THIS MORNING TO SPEAK
10:54:36AM TO THAT.
10:54:37AM IF THAT IS THE CASE AND WE STILL NEED TO HAVE FURTHER
10:54:40AM CONVERSATIONS, THEN WE CAN SET A DATE AND TIME TO DO THAT,
10:54:44AM IF THAT IS THE BOARD'S PLEASURE.
10:54:47AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK THAT'S FINE.
10:54:49AM BUT I STILL THINK EVEN WITH THE DISCUSSION TODAY, THERE'S SO
10:54:52AM MUCH MISCONCEPTION -- MISCONCEPTION IS NOT THE RIGHT WORD --
10:55:01AM CONCERN, LIKE, WE ALL NEED TO UNDERSTAND IT BETTER.
10:55:04AM THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND IT.
10:55:05AM QUITE FRANKLY, AND IN THIS CASE, I KNOW THERE ARE SOME
10:55:12AM ISSUES WITH WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO BASED ON THE LEGAL
10:55:20AM RULINGS FOR THE CRA.
10:55:23AM IT MIGHT BE AT THIS WORKSHOP MIGHT BE A TIME TO INVITE
10:55:27AM ATTORNEY SHEPHARD IN PERSON.
10:55:28AM I THINK OFTENTIMES A WORKSHOP SETTING WORKS BETTER WHEN
10:55:32AM PEOPLE ARE IN PERSON.
10:55:34AM WE MIGHT SEE IF MR. SHEPHARD IS AVAILABLE TO COME ON
10:55:39AM SEPTEMBER 11.
10:55:40AM I THINK THAT WOULD BE A REAL BENEFIT.
10:55:42AM BEFORE WE GO FURTHER WITH THIS, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO CLEAR
10:55:48AM THE SEPTEMBER AGENDA SO THAT WE CAN MAKE ROOM FOR THIS
10:55:52AM BEFORE WE GO TOO MUCH FURTHER.
10:55:54AM >>BILL CARLSON: IS THERE ANOTHER TIME TO DO IT BESIDES
10:55:58AM SEPTEMBER 11?
10:55:59AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: ITEM ON SEPTEMBER 11 WITH BEE PARKS.
10:56:04AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO ASK THE DIRECTOR
10:56:06AM BECAUSE SOME OF THE ISSUES ARE WITH THE HOUSING WORKSHOP
10:56:10AM MIGHT ALREADY BE ENCOMPASSED IN SEPTEMBER 11.
10:56:18AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: I'VE BEEN INFORMED THERE IS AN OPTION THAT
10:56:20AM WE CAN STILL HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE GRANTS POLICY, BUT
10:56:26AM WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME OF THE FOLKS.
10:56:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK: GREAT.
10:56:30AM THEN WE'LL WAIT ON FIGURING IT OUT.
10:56:32AM BUT I STILL BELIEVE LIKE -- OKAY.
10:56:35AM IS EVERYONE OKAY WITH HEARING -- I KNOW BOARD MEMBER CARLSON
10:56:41AM WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THREE ITEMS BEFOREHAND.
10:56:43AM WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO THAT BEFORE OR AFTER THE PRESENTATION?
10:56:45AM >>BILL CARLSON: EITHER WAY.
10:56:47AM I THINK WE DEFINITELY SHOULD HAVE A SEPARATE DISCUSSION
10:56:50AM ABOUT IT AND MAKE IT A ROBUST DISCUSSION WHERE THE PUBLIC
10:56:53AM HAS A CHANCE TO WEIGH IN, JUST LIKE WE DO WITH ANYTHING ELSE
10:56:57AM IMPORTANT.
10:56:57AM BECAUSE THE PUBLIC SEES IT AS THEIR MONEY.
10:57:00AM PEOPLE THAT AREN'T IN A CRA DISTRICT SEE IT AS THEIR MONEY.
10:57:07AM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GOOD CUSTODIANS AND GETTING THE
10:57:10AM PROCESS RIGHT IS IMPORTANT.
10:57:12AM I HOPE WE FIND ANOTHER TIME BESIDES THE 11th.
10:57:15AM MOST OF THE STUFF I HAVE ON THE 11th IS RELATED TO
10:57:18AM HOUSING.
10:57:18AM THAT IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES THAT FOLKS ARE CONCERNED
10:57:24AM ABOUT.
10:57:24AM AS YOU KNOW, HOUSING IS WRITTEN INTO CHAPTER 163 AS ONE OF
10:57:28AM THE SPECIFIC THINGS THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE FUNDING.
10:57:30AM SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ATTUNED TO THAT.
10:57:37AM I'LL MENTION MY THREE THINGS AFTERWARDS.
10:57:39AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT IS ALL NOTED.
10:57:41AM LET'S LISTEN TO THE PRESENTATION AND FIGURE OUT WHERE WE
10:57:43AM WANT TO GO.
10:57:43AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: FOR THE RECORD, ALSO ATTORNEY SHEPHARD HAS
10:57:47AM SAID HE CAN BE HERE PHYSICALLY ON 9/11.
10:57:52AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I ECHO WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE CITY
10:57:56AM ATTORNEY FOR THE CRA BECAUSE WE NEED GUIDANCE.
10:57:59AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
10:58:02AM >>LYNN HURTAK: TAKE IT AWAY.
10:58:03AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: CEDRIC McCRAY, TAMPA CRA DIRECTOR.
10:58:07AM AT THIS TIME I'LL CALL FORWARD DEE REED TO PRESENT THE
10:58:13AM POLICY REVISIONS BEING PROPOSED.
10:58:29AM >>DEE REED: GOOD MORNING.
10:58:30AM DEE REED, FOR THE RECORD.
10:58:31AM AS YOU'RE AWARE, WE ARE HERE TO DISCUSS THE PROPOSED UPDATES
10:58:41AM TO THE POLICY.
10:58:50AM I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE SUBSTANTIAL
10:58:56AM CHANGES ARE TO THE POLICY UPDATES IN TERMS OF THE POLICY
10:59:01AM ITSELF WE ARE UPDATING TERMINOLOGY WITHIN THE POLICY THAT
10:59:05AM LACK CLEAR DEFINITION, LEADS TO AMBIGUITY, AND THE
10:59:12AM APPLICATION OF THOSE TERMINOLOGIES THROUGHOUT THE GRANT
10:59:15AM PROCESS.
10:59:15AM IT SPEAKS TO NEW INITIATIVES THAT CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE THE
10:59:21AM SAME IMPACT THAT WE INITIATED OR THAT WE INITIALLY EXPECTED.
10:59:25AM WE ARE REMOVING UNINTENDED RESTRICTIONS, AND THEN WE ARE
10:59:32AM APPLYING CERTAIN UPDATES TO SOME OF THE INDIVIDUAL GRANTS
10:59:35AM FOR PREDEVELOPMENT, WE ARE COMBINING THE TWO EXISTING LEVELS
10:59:39AM INTO A SINGLE-LEVEL GRANT.
10:59:41AM AND THEN INSERTING A CONDITION THAT REQUIRES REPAYMENT IF
10:59:46AM THE PROJECT IS NOT CONSTRUCTED OR AN APPLICATION FOR THE
10:59:50AM COMMERCIAL EXTERIOR OR INTERIOR GRANT IS NOT SUBMITTED
10:59:55AM WITHIN TWO YEARS.
10:59:56AM FOR THE COMMERCIAL EXTERIOR GRANT, THE ONLY CHANGE THAT IS
11:00:00AM BEING PROPOSED TO THAT GRANT IS THAT ANY IMPROVEMENTS TO
11:00:04AM HVAC HAVE TO BE RELIANT TO CODE AND THAT'S JUST FOR THE
11:00:08AM EXTERIOR GRANT.
11:00:10AM WE HAVE ALSO ADDED SOME SCORING OPPORTUNITIES THAT WOULD
11:00:14AM ALLOW APPLICANTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY INELIGIBLE FOR THE GRANT
11:00:18AM TO NOW BE ELIGIBLE.
11:00:19AM SO JUST AN EXAMPLE OF THAT WOULD BE SOME OF THOSE PROPERTIES
11:00:22AM THAT COME UP TO THE PROPERTY LINE AND DO NOT HAVE MUCH SITE.
11:00:29AM THERE ARE POINTS APPLIED TO THE PROPERTIES FOR MAKING
11:00:32AM IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SITE.
11:00:33AM SO WE HAVE SOME THAT ARE JUST SHY OF THE NUMBER OF POINTS
11:00:37AM THEY NEED TO BE APPROVED, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE
11:00:39AM OPPORTUNITY TO GET THOSE POINTS FROM THE SITE.
11:00:42AM SO WE BUILT IN SOME BONUS POINT OPPORTUNITIES TO KIND OF
11:00:45AM ALLOW THEM TO GET THOSE POINTS AS WELL.
11:00:48AM I FORGOT ONE OTHER THING.
11:00:53AM WE ALSO HAVE ALLOWED TAX-EXEMPT PROPERTIES TO BE ABLE TO
11:00:57AM UTILIZE THAT EXTERIOR GRANT.
11:01:00AM THAT IS BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY NOT BE PAYING TO THE
11:01:04AM TAX, THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE YEAR OF THE BUILDINGS STILL
11:01:07AM HAVE THE SAME IMPACT ON PROPERTY VALUES THAT MEET THE GOALS
11:01:12AM OF THE CRA.
11:01:13AM WITH THE INTERIOR GRANT, AS WE DISCUSSED BACK IN THE JUNE
11:01:17AM BOARD MEETING AND THE BOARD DID VOTE THAT IN LINE WITH THE
11:01:20AM FLORIDA STATUTES, WE WOULD RESTRICT THAT GRANT TO BEING
11:01:25AM SPECIFICALLY CODE RELIANT.
11:01:27AM SO WE ARE SIMPLY BRINGING THOSE OVER INTO THE POLICY.
11:01:31AM WITH THE SPECIAL PROJECTS GRANT, WE'RE ESTABLISHING OR
11:01:37AM DOCUMENTING THE EXISTING GRANT MAXIMUM OF 1 -- SORRY,
11:01:41AM $500,000.
11:01:44AM AND THEN CREATING THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE FUNDING REQUEST
11:01:47AM THAT WILL ADDRESS REQUESTS FROM GREATER THAN 500,000 UP TO
11:01:52AM THE $1 MILLION.
11:01:53AM THEN NEXT I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT
11:02:01AM HAVE BEEN EXPRESSED REGARDING THE POLICY UPDATE AND JUST
11:02:04AM KIND OF MAKE SOME CLARIFICATIONS.
11:02:06AM I DID SEND OUT AN EXPLANATION TO ALL OF YOU.
11:02:10AM IF YOU DO HAVE THAT, YOU CAN FOLLOW ALONG WITH ME.
11:02:13AM I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO NOTE THAT ALL OF THE
11:02:19AM REVISIONS THAT BEING PROPOSED TODAY ARE SPECIFIC TO THE
11:02:23AM COMMERCIAL FUNDING.
11:02:24AM NONE OF THIS -- NONE OF THESE CHANGES IMPACT YOUR
11:02:28AM RESIDENTIAL FUNDING.
11:02:30AM I'LL START WITH MULTIFAMILY ELIGIBILITY.
11:02:37AM UNDER THE POLICY THAT WAS PRESENTED AND APPROVED IN JUNE OF
11:02:41AM 2024, MULTIFAMILY -- I'M SORRY.
11:02:46AM MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS WERE IDENTIFIED AS INELIGIBLE UNDER
11:02:49AM THE CURRENT POLICY.
11:02:52AM THAT IS NOT CHANGING.
11:02:53AM THEY ARE INELIGIBLE FOR FUNDING UNDER THE COMMERCIAL GRANTS
11:02:56AM UNDER THE UPDATE.
11:02:58AM SO THAT IS NOT CHANGING.
11:03:00AM THEY ARE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE ADDRESSED UNDER THE
11:03:03AM RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT.
11:03:05AM THAT IS NOT SOMETHING CHANGING.
11:03:07AM IT IS NOT GOING FROM BEING ELIGIBLE TO INELIGIBLE WITH THIS
11:03:10AM UPDATE.
11:03:11AM THERE'S NO CHANGE THERE.
11:03:12AM IN TERMS OF MIXED USE BUILDINGS, THOSE CAN BE FUNDED UNDER
11:03:17AM THE CURRENT POLICY.
11:03:18AM THEY CAN STILL BE FUNDED UNDER THE POLICY UPDATE IN TERMS OF
11:03:24AM THEIR COMMERCIAL SPACE.
11:03:25AM THE ONLY CHANGE THAT APPLIES IS WHEN IT COMES TO NEW
11:03:28AM CONSTRUCTION.
11:03:30AM SO IF IT'S A REHAB, THEY CAN RECEIVE RESIDENTIAL FUNDING FOR
11:03:35AM THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPONENT AND THEY CAN RECEIVE
11:03:38AM COMMERCIAL FUNDING FOR THE COMMERCIAL SPACES, IF IT'S A
11:03:42AM REHAB.
11:03:43AM IF IT'S NEW CONSTRUCTION, THEY CAN STILL RECEIVE FUNDING OR
11:03:47AM APPLY FOR FUNDING UNDER THE AFFORDABLE FUNDING.
11:03:51AM COMMERCIAL CANNOT CONTRIBUTE TO THE NEW CONSTRUCTION OF
11:03:56AM COMMERCIAL SPACES, AND THAT IS TO ALIGN WITH THE FLORIDA
11:03:59AM STATUTE.
11:04:00AM THAT IS THE ONLY COMPONENT THAT IS CHANGING WITH THIS
11:04:03AM UPDATE.
11:04:03AM AGAIN, THAT IS SPECIFIC TO JUST COMMERCIAL SPACES.
11:04:08AM IT DOES NOT IMPACT RESIDENTIAL FUNDING AT ALL.
11:04:12AM LEGACY CREDIT.
11:04:17AM THIS IS ANOTHER ITEM THAT I BELIEVE HAS BEEN MISUNDERSTOOD.
11:04:22AM LEGACY CREDIT IS AN INITIATIVE THAT WAS INTRODUCED WITH THE
11:04:26AM POLICY APPROVAL IN JUNE.
11:04:29AM THAT IS A REDUCTION IN THE OWNER'S MATCH THAT IS TIED
11:04:34AM SPECIFICALLY TO THE NUMBER OF YEARS THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER
11:04:37AM HAS OWNED THE PROPERTY.
11:04:39AM CURRENTLY UNDER THE POLICY APPROVED IN JUNE OF 2024, THE
11:04:45AM AMOUNT OF THEIR MATCH -- I'M SORRY, THE AMOUNT OF THEIR
11:04:49AM CREDIT IS CAPPED BY THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THEY HAVE PAID
11:04:53AM INTO THE TIF THROUGH THEIR AD VALOREM TAXES.
11:04:58AM THE ONLY THING THAT IS CHANGING WITH THIS UPDATE IS THAT WE
11:05:02AM ARE REMOVING THAT CAP.
11:05:04AM SO THEIR CAP OF, LET'S SAY THEY'VE OWN -- MAY HAVE OWNED THE
11:05:11AM PROPERTY FOR 15 YEARS, BUT IF THEY ONLY PAID $3,000 INTO THE
11:05:17AM TIF, THEY DON'T GET UP TO 100,000.
11:05:20AM THEY ARE CAPPED AT THE $3,000 CURRENTLY.
11:05:23AM BUT WITH THIS UPDATE, WE'VE REMOVED THAT CAP.
11:05:27AM WHETHER THEY PUT IN 3,000 OR THEY PUT IN 50,000, THEY CAN
11:05:32AM GET UP TO $100,000 CAP -- SORRY, HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS
11:05:36AM CREDIT WITH LEGACY CREDIT.
11:05:38AM SO THIS UPDATE ACTUALLY IS HELPING.
11:05:41AM IT'S ALLOWING THEM TO GET MORE CREDIT WITH LEGACY.
11:05:44AM AGAIN, THIS IS WITH THE COMMERCIAL GRANTS.
11:05:48AM THIS IS THE COMMERCIAL POLICY.
11:05:50AM IT SPEAKS SOLELY TO COMMERCIAL FUNDING.
11:05:52AM THAT IS THE ONLY CHANGE THAT IS TAKING PLACE WHEN IT COMES
11:05:56AM TO LEGACY CREDIT.
11:05:57AM IT'S INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF CREDIT THAT THEY CAN GET.
11:06:01AM IN TERMS OF GRANT PAYMENT STRUCTURE, WITH MOST GRANTS ACROSS
11:06:10AM THE BOARD, THEY ARE ALL REIMBURSEMENT GRANTS.
11:06:13AM HOWEVER, WITH THE CURRENT POLICY, THERE IS A COMPONENT THAT
11:06:18AM CURRENTLY EXISTS TODAY IN WHICH WE ALLOW FOR DIRECT
11:06:22AM CONTRACTOR PAYMENT, AS LONG AS THEY ARE RECEIVING THEIR
11:06:25AM FUNDING FOR THEIR PORTION WITH A LENDING INSTITUTE THAT HAS
11:06:29AM A COMPONENT THAT PROVIDES FOR BILLING AND CONSTRUCTION
11:06:35AM MANAGEMENT.
11:06:35AM SO MANY OF YOUR BANKS OR LENDING AGENCIES THAT ISSUE SMALL
11:06:39AM BUSINESS LOANS, THEY WILL HAVE THAT BILLING MANAGEMENT
11:06:46AM COMPONENT.
11:06:46AM THEY ARE MANAGING TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THE CONTRACTOR
11:06:48AM SUBMITS THEIR INVOICE, WHATEVER MATERIAL THEY ARE BILLING
11:06:51AM FOR, THEY WILL MAKE SURE THAT MATERIAL HAS BEEN ACQUIRED AND
11:06:54AM IS ON-SITE.
11:06:55AM ANY WORK THAT THEY ARE BILLING FOR, THEY ARE CONFIRMING THAT
11:06:58AM THAT WORK HAS BEEN COMPLETED.
11:06:59AM AS LONG AS THAT STRUCTURE IS IN PLACE, THEY CAN BE APPROVED
11:07:02AM FOR DIRECT CONTRACTOR PAY.
11:07:04AM WHAT THAT DOES, IT ALLOWS THEM TO UTILIZE THE FUNDS FROM
11:07:08AM THEIR CRA GRANT AWARD, THAT MONEY CAN BE PAID UP FRONT, ON
11:07:14AM THE FRONT END BEFORE THEY PAY THEIR MATCH.
11:07:18AM THE CRA WILL PAY THAT MONEY DIRECTLY TO THE CONTRACTOR.
11:07:21AM NOT ONLY IS THAT RELIEVING THE STRAIN OF THEM HAVING TO HAVE
11:07:27AM THAT FUNDING UP FRONT, IT'S ALSO DELAYING THE ACCUMULATION
11:07:32AM OF INTEREST ON THEIR LOAN BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT ACCESSING
11:07:36AM THAT MONEY AS EARLY AS THEY WOULD IF THEY WERE PAYING FOR
11:07:39AM THIS FROM THE FRONT END.
11:07:41AM SO AGAIN, THERE IS NO EXPECTATION THAT THEY HAVE TO FUND
11:07:45AM THEIR PROJECTS AT HUNDRED PERCENT.
11:07:48AM THAT'S NOT GOING AWAY.
11:07:53AM STILL STAYING IN PLACE UNDER THIS POLICY UPDATE.
11:07:56AM THE ONLY THING CHANGING WITH THE UPDATE IS THAT THERE WAS A
11:07:58AM MISPRINT IN THE POLICY THAT SAYS WE COULD PAY 20% DEPOSIT ON
11:08:05AM THE FRONT END AND THE CONTRACTOR HAD TO WAIT UNTIL PROJECT
11:08:10AM COMPLETION TO GET THE NEXT PAYMENT.
11:08:11AM WHAT WE'RE ALLOWING IN THE UPDATE IS FOR THE CONTRACTOR TO
11:08:14AM RECEIVE MONTHLY PROGRESS PAYMENTS SO THEY CAN BILL US
11:08:20AM MONTHLY INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR THE PROJECT TO BE COMPLETED
11:08:22AM TO GET THE REST OF THEIR PAYMENT.
11:08:26AM THE ONLY OTHER --
11:08:31AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:08:31AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M APPRECIATIVE OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
11:08:34AM I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND, EVERYBODY.
11:08:36AM YOU'RE SAYING YOU BUILT THE FOUNDATION, YOU GET SO MUCH.
11:08:38AM >>DEE REED: YES.
11:08:40AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: EVEN THOUGH NOW YOU CAN PAY YOUR DEBT.
11:08:43AM YOU'RE SAYING NOW WE'RE CHANGING, SAME WAY, ONCE YOU GET
11:08:49AM BLOCKS OR SECOND FLOOR, WHATEVER IT IS, THAT'S DONE AND THEN
11:08:52AM YOU TURN IT IN, GET YOUR OTHER GRANT IN ADVANCE.
11:08:55AM >>DEE REED: THE CONTRACTOR CAN BILL MONTHLY.
11:08:57AM WHATEVER HE COMPLETED IN THAT MONTHLY -- YES, WHATEVER HE'S
11:09:00AM DONE THAT MONTHLY, WE CAN PAY THAT.
11:09:03AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: OR TO THE WHOLE PROJECT TO GET IT DONE ON
11:09:06AM PURPOSE, ON TIME, AND ON BUDGET.
11:09:11AM >>DEE REED: EXACTLY.
11:09:12AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: -- HE OR SHE IS THE ONE WHO IS GOING TO
11:09:13AM SAY IT'S DONE, PAID.
11:09:15AM >>DEE REED: EXACTLY.
11:09:16AM THE ONLY OTHER COMPONENT THAT WE'VE HEARD THAT PEOPLE ARE
11:09:21AM CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE RESTRICTING OF GRANTS TO BEING CODE
11:09:27AM COMPLIANT.
11:09:27AM AND THAT IS THE CHANGES BEING PROPOSED TO THE INTERIOR
11:09:31AM GRANT.
11:09:32AM AND THOSE ARE BEING PROPOSED SOLELY TO ALIGN WITH THE
11:09:36AM FLORIDA STATUTE.
11:09:37AM THAT'S NOT REALLY MUCH THAT I CAN SAY ABOUT THAT OTHER THAN
11:09:42AM THE FACT THAT WE JUST ESCAPED THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO GET
11:09:48AM RID OF CRAs.
11:09:50AM WE ARE JUST TRYING TO STAY COMPLIANT, STAY WITHIN THE
11:09:52AM STATUTE SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO GOOD IN THE COMMUNITY.
11:09:57AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO.
11:10:01AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:10:01AM AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THE BRIEFING YESTERDAY AFTERNOON.
11:10:04AM I HAVE YOUR TEEM THAT YOU SENT RIGHT AFTER WE SPOKE.
11:10:10AM AFTER 4:00.
11:10:10AM I KNOW IT IS A PUBLIC RECORD, BUT I'M GOING TO MAKE SURE
11:10:13AM THAT THE FOLKS THAT SHARED THEIR CONCERNS THAT I SPOKE TO
11:10:18AM THAT THEY GET A COPY OF THIS.
11:10:19AM BEFORE 9/11, THEY SEE THESE BULLET POINTS AND THERE IS A
11:10:24AM TOTAL UNDERSTANDING BEFORE WE GET INTO THAT NEXT DISCUSSION.
11:10:27AM THANK YOU AGAIN VERY MUCH.
11:10:28AM >>DEE REED: IF I MAY, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ONE OTHER THING.
11:10:32AM IF IT WOULD HELP, I AM WILLING TO AGREE IF IT WOULD HELP TO
11:10:37AM NOT DELAY.
11:10:38AM I AM WILLING TO AGREE THAT IF YOU SEE IN THE MEMO WE ARE
11:10:43AM ASKING THAT THE POLICY NOT BE -- THE NEW CHANGES NOT GO INTO
11:10:48AM EFFECT UNTIL OCTOBER 1st, I'M WILLING TO COMMIT TO DOING A
11:10:51AM WORKSHOP PRIOR TO THAT EFFECTIVE DATE TO EXPLAIN TO THE
11:10:56AM PUBLIC, EVEN IF IT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE IN OFFICE WITH A
11:11:01AM SMALL GROUP OF STAKEHOLDERS THAT CAN SPREAD THE WORD TO MAKE
11:11:05AM SURE THAT THE COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS WHAT I JUST EXPLAINED TO
11:11:09AM YOU HERE.
11:11:15AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:11:16AM >>BILL CARLSON: I KNOW FROM THE CONVERSATIONS AND TALKING TO
11:11:18AM YOU ALL AND LISTENING TO YOU NOW THAT YOU'VE LISTENED TO THE
11:11:22AM PUBLIC AND TRYING TO ADAPT TO THE PUBLIC AND MEMBERS OF THE
11:11:24AM PUBLIC HAVE DIFFERENT VIEWS.
11:11:26AM SO WE HAVE TO BUILD CONSENSUS, EVEN THOUGH EVERYBODY MIGHT
11:11:30AM NOT ALWAYS AGREE.
11:11:31AM ANY VOTE TO DELAY ON MY PART IS NOT A REFLECTION OF
11:11:37AM CRITICISM OF YOU-ALL.
11:11:39AM IT'S JUST THAT ON SOMETHING SO IMPORTANT TO HOW THE MONEY IS
11:11:43AM ISSUED, THIS IS THE -- I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
11:11:46AM PUBLIC WEIGHS IN.
11:11:48AM WHAT I WAS GOING TO PROPOSE IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU JUST SAID,
11:11:50AM THAT WE HAVE ONE OR TWO, NOT IN THIS SESSION, BUT STAFF
11:11:56AM COULD HAVE ONE OR TWO OPEN SESSIONS EITHER IN PERSON OR
11:12:00AM ELECTRONICALLY THAT ARE COMMUNICATED THROUGH THE CRA
11:12:03AM CHANNELS TO LET PEOPLE GIVE FEEDBACK.
11:12:05AM SO YOU WOULD PRESENT IT, BUT IF YOU PROVIDE AN HOUR, I WOULD
11:12:08AM TAKE LIKE 15 MINUTES TO PRESENT AND THEN TAKE THE REST OF IT
11:12:12AM AND COMMENT BACK AND LISTEN TO THE COMMENTS AND SEE IF
11:12:16AM THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE WE NEED TO TWEAK.
11:12:17AM I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR INCLUDING THE RED LINES.
11:12:21AM THERE IS A CLEAN VERSION OF ALL THE DOCUMENTS AND A
11:12:23AM RED-LINED VERSION THAT MADE IT REALLY EASY TO SEE WHAT THE
11:12:26AM CHANGES WERE.
11:12:27AM ANYBODY WHO HASN'T SEEN THE RED LINES, THEY ARE OUT THERE.
11:12:30AM I THINK IF WE HAVE ONE OR TWO KIND OF TOWN HALL MEETINGS TO
11:12:34AM GET -- NOT JUST TO PRESENT BUT GET FEEDBACK, THAT WOULD HELP
11:12:37AM TO INFORM WHATEVER FINAL TWEAKS OR CHANGES WE WOULD DO IN
11:12:40AM THE END.
11:12:40AM WHAT WE WOULD DO, IF WE DID NOT ATTEND THAT, WE WOULD DO OUR
11:12:44AM BRIEFINGS OR UPDATES WITH YOU ALL BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING SO
11:12:47AM WE CAN DECIDE WHAT WE'LL RECOMMEND TO CHANGE AND YOU ALL CAN
11:12:49AM RECOMMEND YOUR CHANGES AS WELL.
11:12:51AM THANK YOU.
11:12:53AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:12:54AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: IT'S BEEN SO INTERESTING TO OBSERVE THE
11:12:57AM PUBLIC INPUT ON THIS.
11:12:58AM HARKEN BACK TO 2024 WHEN THE CRA BOARD VOTED ON A LOT OF
11:13:02AM THESE ISSUES.
11:13:03AM OF COURSE, READING THROUGH THE DOCUMENTS AND THE PROPOSED
11:13:06AM CHANGES, THERE'S DEFINITELY A DISCONNECT BETWEEN THE ACTUAL
11:13:09AM POLICY THAT'S BEING PROPOSED AND THEN THE PERCEPTION IN THE
11:13:12AM COMMUNITY.
11:13:12AM I THINK IT'S BEEN TRANSPARENT, SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHERE
11:13:17AM THIS DISCONNECT HAS OCCURRED BECAUSE I'M VERY COMFORTABLE
11:13:20AM AND I THINK EVERYBODY ON Facebook QUOTED THAT I WAS GOING
11:13:23AM TO SUPPORT THE CRA DIRECTOR'S POSITION ON THE ISSUE.
11:13:27AM I THINK, ONE, WE HAVE TO PROTECT THE CRA.
11:13:29AM WE HAVE TO BE IN KLEIN WITH THE PUBLIC POLICY FROM
11:13:32AM TALLAHASSEE.
11:13:32AM IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN TALLAHASSEE, CHANGE
11:13:34AM YOUR LEGISLATORS.
11:13:37AM IT'S NOT THE CITY.
11:13:38AM IT'S TALLAHASSEE.
11:13:39AM CHANGE YOUR LEGISLATORS.
11:13:40AM WE KNOW WHO IS IN CHARGE OF TALLAHASSEE.
11:13:42AM WE KNOW WHAT THEIR AGENDA IS, AND IT'S NOT NECESSARILY CRA
11:13:46AM FRIENDLY AGENDAS.
11:13:47AM BUT THAT BEING SAID, IT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO, A REQUIREMENT
11:13:53AM WE HAVE TO DO.
11:13:54AM I'D SAY A SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES BENEFIT
11:13:59AM THE CRA USERS AND THE FOLKS THAT ARE TRYING TO DO BUSINESS
11:14:02AM WITH THE CRA AS BEEN OUTLINED BY YOU TODAY.
11:14:06AM I APPRECIATE THE VERY CONCISE SUMMATION OF WHAT HAS BEEN
11:14:11AM PROPOSED.
11:14:11AM I THINK IF PEOPLE REALLY READ THE DOCUMENT AND LISTEN TO
11:14:15AM WHAT YOU DESCRIBED, I THINK THEY WOULD REACH A LEVEL OF
11:14:19AM COMFORT THAN WHAT WE HEARD IN PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY.
11:14:22AM THIS IS NOT A WHOLESALE CHANGES.
11:14:25AM THE ITEMS THAT ARE MAYBE LESS POPULAR ARE NOT ISSUES THAT
11:14:28AM ARE COMING FROM THE CITY.
11:14:29AM AGAIN, IT'S COMING FROM TALLAHASSEE.
11:14:31AM I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
11:14:33AM THANK YOU.
11:14:34AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL JUST SAY MY COMMENTS AS WELL.
11:14:37AM I TEND TO AGREE WITH BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:14:40AM I DO BELIEVE THAT THESE ARE VERY -- LIKE, I UNDERSTOOD THE
11:14:47AM EXPLANATION.
11:14:49AM I UNDERSTAND AND BY AND LARGE I AGREE THE THINGS WE DON'T
11:14:53AM LIKE ARE THINGS WE HAVE NO POWER OVER.
11:14:55AM MY PROBLEM WITH IT IS THAT THE PUBLIC DOES NOT SEEM TO
11:15:00AM UNDERSTAND.
11:15:00AM I THINK IT'S ONE OF THOSE THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON HOW TO
11:15:05AM PRESENT IT MAYBE A LITTLE MORE EFFICIENTLY OR CLEAR AND NOT
11:15:14AM HAVING TO READ THE FULL RED-LINE DOCUMENT.
11:15:16AM I THINK WE JUST NEED TO WORK A LITTLE BIT MAYBE ON DOING A
11:15:22AM PRESENTATION FOR THE PUBLIC.
11:15:23AM I WANT FOLKS TO FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH IT.
11:15:25AM I'M ALSO NOT OPPOSED TO APPROVE THESE TODAY AND ALSO HAVING
11:15:30AM A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE HERE IS THE
11:15:33AM GREAT THING ABOUT THIS.
11:15:34AM THIS IS POLICY.
11:15:35AM THIS US.
11:15:36AM WE COULD CHANGE IT NEXT MONTH IF WE WANTED TO.
11:15:39AM I'M HESITANT.
11:15:43AM BECAUSE I DO UNDERSTAND IT AND I DO THINK THESE ARE GOOD
11:15:46AM CHANGES, I'M HESITANT TO CONTINUE IT, BUT I'M ALSO FINE WITH
11:15:50AM SAYING, YES, WE CAN APPROVE THESE BUT ALSO CONTINUING
11:15:53AM BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL OCTOBER.
11:15:56AM WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT IT IN SEPTEMBER.
11:15:58AM I HAVE NO OPPOSITION TO THAT.
11:16:02AM BUT, AGAIN, THERE ARE SEVERAL OF US HERE.
11:16:04AM BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:16:06AM >>BILL CARLSON: TO THAT POINT, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'LL GO
11:16:09AM THROUGH MY THREE POINTS OF FEEDBACK.
11:16:12AM IF THE PUBLIC WANTS TO PROVIDE INPUT, IF IT'S THE SAME
11:16:20AM THING, THE SIGNAL BY APPROVING IT TODAY, IT LOOKS BAD, I
11:16:24AM WOULD RATHER DELAY IT.
11:16:25AM IF I COULD MENTION MY THREE THINGS REAL FAST.
11:16:28AM NUMBER ONE, I THINK IN 163 IT DESCRIBES THAT WE CAN'T -- CRA
11:16:34AM CAN'T PAY FOR CITY PROJECTS THAT WERE ALREADY GOING TO BE
11:16:38AM PAID BY THE CITY.
11:16:39AM AND I THINK -- ALSO, THE PUBLIC WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE
11:16:44AM PROJECTS APPROVED AND PAID FOR ARE THE PUBLIC'S PRIORITIES
11:16:47AM AND NOT THE CITY'S PRIORITIES.
11:16:48AM ONE OF MY BIG CONCERNS IN ALL OF THIS IS THAT THE CITY HAS A
11:16:52AM BACK DOOR WHERE THE CITY CAN JUST PUT IN APPLICATION.
11:16:55AM I THINK THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE -- I THINK WE NEED TO TWEAK
11:16:57AM THIS TO PROVIDE A TRANSPARENT PROCESS FOR THE CITY TO MAKE
11:17:00AM APPLICATIONS.
11:17:01AM THE PERCEPTION IN THE COMMUNITY IS SOME OF THE COMMUNITY'S
11:17:05AM PROJECTS ARE BEING DELAYED, TRUE OR NOT, THE COMMUNITY'S
11:17:09AM PERCEPTION IS THAT THE COMMUNITY'S PROJECTS ARE BEING
11:17:12AM DELAYED SO THAT THE CITY'S PRIORITIES CAN BE PUSHED THROUGH.
11:17:15AM WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND AS A TWEAK IS THE CITY NOT HAVE A
11:17:19AM BACK DOOR, BUT IF THE CITY WANTS TO PROPOSE A PROJECT, THAT
11:17:24AM THEY SHOULD FIRST GO TO THE CAC FOR CONCEPT APPROVAL, NOT
11:17:27AM APPROVAL ON THE PROJECT, BUT CONCEPT APPROVAL AND COME TO
11:17:30AM THE CRA BOARD FOR CONCEPT APPROVAL AND THEN THEY WOULD GO
11:17:32AM THROUGH THE PROCESS.
11:17:33AM I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE A TRANSPARENT PROCESS BECAUSE
11:17:35AM OTHERWISE PEOPLE THINK THERE IS A BACK DOOR THAT'S NOT FAIR.
11:17:39AM SECOND IS, I DON'T SEE -- SORRY IF I MISSED IT, BUT I DON'T
11:17:44AM SEE THAT WE FIXED THE PROBLEM ABOUT THE TIMING OF THE
11:17:47AM APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATIONS.
11:17:49AM PART OF THE PERCEPTIONS OF SOME OF THESE HOUSING PROJECTS WE
11:17:52AM GOT THROUGH IS THE PERCEPTION OF THE APPLICANT IS IT IS
11:17:56AM FIRST IN, FIRST OUT.
11:17:57AM BUT AS WE HEARD IN THE HEARINGS, STAFF WERE CONSIDERING
11:18:02AM OTHER PROJECTS THAT HAD BEEN APPLIED FOR, EVEN OTHER
11:18:05AM PROJECTS ANTICIPATED BEING APPLIED FOR.
11:18:07AM I THINK WE JUST NEED TO CLARIFY THAT PROCESS AND MAKE IT
11:18:09AM TRANSPARENT --
11:18:10AM >>LYNN HURTAK: BOARD MEMBER CARLSON, THAT IS A HOUSING ISSUE
11:18:12AM AND THAT WE WILL TALK ABOUT NEXT MONTH.
11:18:16AM >>BILL CARLSON: ON ANY APPROVAL OF ANY GRANTS, I THINK WE
11:18:19AM OUGHT TO SET IT UP ON A TIME BASIS, LIKE ON A QUARTERLY
11:18:23AM BASIS OR SIX-MONTH BASIS AND THEN HAVE A PUBLIC MEETING
11:18:26AM WHERE THE PUBLIC IS INVITED TO ATTEND AND LISTEN TO THE
11:18:28AM SCORING.
11:18:29AM IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB OF PUTTING IN THE
11:18:31AM NUMBERS AND SCORING AND ALL THAT, BUT IN MOST CASES LIKE
11:18:34AM THIS, ESPECIALLY WHEN GOVERNMENT IS GIVING OUT A LOT OF
11:18:36AM MONEY, THERE IS TYPICALLY A MEETING OPEN TO THE PUBLIC WHERE
11:18:39AM THE PUBLIC CAN COME LISTEN TO IT.
11:18:42AM THE LAST THING, YOU ALL DO HAVE RULES ABOUT HOW GRANTEES CAN
11:18:46AM COMMUNICATE.
11:18:48AM I THINK WE NEED TO STRENGTHEN THAT.
11:18:51AM I'M A COMMUNICATION PROFESSIONAL.
11:18:52AM IT'S TYPICAL THAT IN CONTRACTS FROM GRANTORS THAT THERE
11:18:57AM WOULD BE SIGHT RESTRICTIONS AROUND WHEN AND HOW THEY CAN
11:19:00AM MAKE ANNOUNCEMENTS AND WHAT THEY NEED TO SAY.
11:19:03AM I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR LOGO IS INCLUDED,
11:19:07AM BOILERPLATE, SPECIFIC LANGUAGE THAT EXPLAINS WHAT A CRA IS,
11:19:12AM AND EVEN MAYBE SOME LEVEL OF APPROVAL OF AN INITIAL
11:19:16AM ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE STAFF.
11:19:17AM AND IDEALLY, ALSO THAT THE CHAIR OF THE CRA WOULD -- AND THE
11:19:21AM CRA BOARD WOULD BE INVITED TO ANY KIND OF ANNOUNCEMENT.
11:19:25AM THAT IS A TYPICAL THING THAT ANY GRANTOR DOES.
11:19:29AM ANYBODY WHO GIVES OUT GRANT MONEY WILL TYPICALLY REQUIRE ALL
11:19:31AM THAT.
11:19:32AM WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS BUT I THINK WE NEED TO
11:19:34AM MAKE IT STRICTER.
11:19:35AM AGAIN, THE REASON IS THAT THE PUBLIC, ESPECIALLY THOSE
11:19:38AM OUTSIDE OF A CRA, THEY HAVE THE WRONG IMPRESSION ABOUT WHICH
11:19:44AM MONEY IS BEING USED.
11:19:45AM IF THEY KNEW THE MONEY WAS RESTRICTED TO ONLY BEING USED IN,
11:19:48AM FOR EXAMPLE, YBOR, THEN THEY WOULD UNDERSTAND WHY ROADS IN
11:19:51AM SOUTH TAMPA ARE NOT REPAIRED WITH THE MONEY SPENT ON
11:19:54AM BRICKING IN YBOR.
11:19:55AM THOSE ARE THREE THINGS, REMOVING THE BACKDOOR FOR THE CITY
11:19:58AM AND MAKING THAT MORE TRANSPARENT, MAKING THE DECISION MAKING
11:20:02AM PROCESS CLEAR AND TRANSPARENT AND THEN PUTTING STRICTER
11:20:07AM RULES AROUND COMMUNICATING.
11:20:12AM >>DEE REED: I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THE UNDERLINED AND
11:20:15AM STRIKE THROUGH COPY IN FRONT OF YOU, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO
11:20:17AM RESPOND TO THE STATEMENT REGARDING THE BACK DOOR FOR THE
11:20:20AM CITY --
11:20:21AM >>LYNN HURTAK: CAN YOU PUT IT ON THE WOLF?
11:20:23AM THAT WAY OTHERS CAN SEE IT AT THE SAME TIME.
11:20:27AM >>DEE REED: ON PAGE 5, RIGHT HERE, WE'VE ADDED, AND THIS IS
11:20:33AM ONE OF THE ADDITIONS TO THE POLICY, AND IT DOES HAVE AN
11:20:36AM APPLICATION, CURRENTLY, THE CITY HAS, UNDER THE POLICY
11:20:40AM THAT'S IN EXISTENCE, THE CITY HAS TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION
11:20:43AM AND FOLLOW THE SAME SPECIAL PROJECTS PROCESS THAT ANY OF THE
11:20:48AM APPLICANTS HAVE TO FOLLOW.
11:20:49AM BUT WE ALSO IMPLEMENTED A CAP ON THE AMOUNT THAT THE CITY
11:20:53AM CAN REQUEST.
11:20:54AM AND THERE'S ALSO SPECIFIC LIMITS ON WHAT CAN BE FUNDED UNDER
11:20:59AM THOSE REQUESTS AND THE PROCESS THAT THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW.
11:21:03AM THERE'S MORE DETAILS THAT APPLY TO THE CITY APPLICATIONS
11:21:08AM THAN WHAT IS OUTLINED.
11:21:11AM >>BILL CARLSON: ELSEWHERE IN THE OTHER DOCUMENTS, THE RED
11:21:13AM LINE SHOWS EXCEPT THE CITY.
11:21:15AM EXCEPT THE CITY.
11:21:16AM >>DEE REED: BECAUSE THE CITY -- WE HAVE A SECTION THAT
11:21:18AM OUTLINES SPECIFICALLY WHAT APPLIES TO THE CITY.
11:21:22AM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE THAT CLEARER.
11:21:25AM ALSO, I THINK WE OUGHT TO ADD THAT, WE CAN DEBATE IT AT THE
11:21:28AM NEXT MEETING, BUT I THINK WE OUGHT TO ADD THAT EXTRA LEVEL
11:21:31AM OF TRANSPARENCY, THAT THE CITY HAS TO DISCLOSE WHAT THEY ARE
11:21:34AM GOING TO PROPOSE.
11:21:35AM I THINK THEY SHOULD GET A CONCEPT APPROVAL AT THE CAC AND
11:21:39AM THEN AT THE BOARD BEFORE THEY GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
11:21:43AM >>DEE REED: YES, THIS DOES GO TO THE CAC.
11:21:46AM IF FOLLOWS --
11:21:49AM >>BILL CARLSON: BEFORE THEY APPLY, CONCEPT APPROVAL.
11:21:52AM CONCEPT APPROVAL.
11:21:52AM BY THE TIME THEY APPLY, IT GETS RAILROADED, OH, NOW YOU HAVE
11:21:58AM TO PUSH THAT THROUGH.
11:21:59AM >>LYNN HURTAK: THAT HAPPENS ALREADY.
11:22:04AM >>BILL CARLSON: THEY MAKE AN APPLICATION AND THEN GO TO THE
11:22:07AM CAC.
11:22:09AM >>DEE REED: THE POLICY REQUIRES THEM TO COME IN AT THE
11:22:12AM CONCEPT LEVEL.
11:22:14AM CURRENT POLICY REQUIRES THEM TO COME IN AT THE CONCEPT LEVEL
11:22:18AM AND THEN THEY HAVE TO COME BACK, YES.
11:22:20AM >>BILL CARLSON: WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT OFF-LINE.
11:22:24AM >>DEE REED: THE OTHER POINT I WANTED TO DRAW OUT, DURING THE
11:22:27AM MEETING AND AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT, ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT YOU
11:22:29AM RECEIVED YOUR LETTERS OR YOUR E-MAILS FROM, I HAD A
11:22:33AM CONVERSATION WITH AND WE DISCUSSED, AND SHE EXPRESSED THAT
11:22:37AM SHE WOULD BE WILLING TO COME UP AND SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE
11:22:40AM SAME RECOMMENDATION THAT I MADE TO YOU.
11:22:42AM AND THIS IS ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT E-MAILED YOU.
11:22:46AM >>LYNN HURTAK: LET'S HEAR FROM MS. McCASKILL.
11:22:55AM >> KELLA McCASKILL.
11:22:57AM THANK YOU.
11:22:57AM SO WHAT HAPPENS IS, THE COMMUNICATION IS NOT CLEAR.
11:23:01AM IF YOU'RE APPLYING, YOU'RE AN APPLICANT, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT
11:23:07AM IS AVAILABLE TO YOU AS AN INDIVIDUAL.
11:23:09AM EVEN I HAVE SAT MULTIPLE TIMES, EXPLANATION IN THE BACK, IT
11:23:14AM WAS EXPLAINED, IF YOU ARE APPLYING FOR ADAPTIVE REUSE, WHICH
11:23:18AM IS A REHAB, YOU CAN ALMOST STACK IF YOU WILL.
11:23:22AM I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
11:23:23AM SHE JUST TOLD ME.
11:23:24AM SHE JUST EXPLAINED THAT YOU CAN STACK.
11:23:27AM EVEN -- I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS CAN HAPPEN, BUT IF THEY CAN
11:23:31AM SIT DOWN, SO THAT IS A COMMERCIAL PROJECT THAT HAS RETAIL AT
11:23:35AM THE BOTTOM.
11:23:36AM CLASSIFYING COMMERCIAL.
11:23:38AM UP STAIRS, IT'S HOUSING.
11:23:39AM IT'S HOUSING.
11:23:40AM INITIALLY IT WAS ONE THING.
11:23:43AM NOW IT'S TWO.
11:23:45AM IF THERE'S SOME TYPE OF WAY WE CANNOT HOLD UP PROJECTS, BUT
11:23:50AM WORK THROUGH DEE WITH THE COMMERCIAL PIECE AND BEE WITH THE
11:23:57AM HOUSING PIECE AND IT'S EXPLAINED.
11:23:59AM SOMEHOW IT NEEDS TO BE SEPARATE BUT COMMUNICATED AT THE SAME
11:24:02AM TIME.
11:24:02AM WE'RE NOT GETTING THAT COMMUNICATION OVER HERE.
11:24:04AM THE PEOPLE THAT CAME BEFORE YOU ARE NOT ILLITERATE.
11:24:08AM WE CAN READ.
11:24:09AM WE CAN READ THESE RED LINES BUT IT'S NOT CLEAR IN THE
11:24:12AM COMMUNICATION.
11:24:12AM SHE AGREED TO DO A MEETING WITH ANYBODY THAT HAD AN ISSUE
11:24:15AM BUT SHE WAS WAITING FOR A WORKSHOP OPPORTUNITY WHEN SHE
11:24:19AM HIRED STAFF.
11:24:20AM WE CAN'T WAIT ANYMORE.
11:24:21AM SHE'S AGREED TO DO A WORKSHOP AS IT RELATES TO THE
11:24:23AM COMMERCIAL PIECE, BUT WE ALSO NEED IT WITH THE HOUSING PIECE
11:24:27AM BECAUSE THE COMMUNICATION IS NOT CLEAR.
11:24:29AM SHE JUST MADE IT CLEAR AND EVEN STILL, IT'S CLOUDY, IF THAT
11:24:33AM MAKES SENSE.
11:24:34AM I'M SAYING, IF IT'S CLEAR, LIKE THE PIECE OF THE MILLION
11:24:42AM DOLLARS, CAP AT A MILLION DOLLARS GOING FORWARD.
11:24:46AM WE JUST WATCHED YOU GIVE AWAY $5 MILLION.
11:24:50AM THAT REQUIREMENT WAS ALREADY THERE, BUT YOU GUYS IGNORED IT.
11:24:54AM IF IT'S IN THIS POLICY, IT MAKES IT SEEM LIKE IT IS LIMITING
11:24:58AM OUR PROJECTS.
11:24:59AM WE NEED SOME TRANSPARENCY, SOME CLARITY, COMMUNICATION.
11:25:03AM SHE BROKE IT DOWN SEPARATE.
11:25:04AM I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN GET THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS, BUT WE
11:25:07AM NEED IT.
11:25:08AM WE DEFINITELY NEED THE COMMUNICATION PIECE BROKEN OUT
11:25:11AM INDIVIDUALLY, LINE BY LINE, PROJECT BY PROJECT FOR BOTH.
11:25:16AM >>LUIS VIERA: BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:25:17AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WE'RE BOTH HERE, SO MAYBE WE CAN ANSWER
11:25:17AM SOME OF THAT NOW.
11:25:32AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I THINK, MS. McCASKILL, YOU ENCOMPASSED
11:25:36AM THAT VERY WELL.
11:25:38AM IT'S THE COMMUNICATION PIECE THAT WE'RE LACKING.
11:25:42AM I WOULD HAVE REALLY LOVED A QUICK PowerPoint TODAY OF LIKE
11:25:46AM THE MOST SPECIFIC THINGS KIND OF SPELLED OUT, MAYBE EVEN
11:25:51AM SOME VISUALS.
11:25:53AM SO I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU.
11:25:55AM I THINK WE NEED TO COMMUNICATE BETTER.
11:25:58AM IF THAT IS IN A WORKSHOP FACILITY HERE OR A MEETING WITH THE
11:26:02AM PUBLIC AND THEN A WORKSHOP FOR COUNCIL, I THINK THAT MIGHT
11:26:06AM ALSO BE A GOOD WAY TO GO.
11:26:09AM I DO NOT DISAGREE.
11:26:11AM >>LUIS VIERA: BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN AND BOARD MEMBER
11:26:12AM MIRANDA.
11:26:13AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: BASED ON THE INFORMATION I'M HEARING
11:26:15AM TODAY, I THINK IT IS TO THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC TO MOVE
11:26:20AM ITEM 9.
11:26:21AM WHAT I'M HEARING, WHAT PROBABLY WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE ON
11:26:24AM THIS IS TO HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING, NOT NECESSARILY AMONGST
11:26:29AM THIS BOARD, BUT A COMMUNITY MEETING TO HAVE AN IN-DEPTH
11:26:33AM BRIEFING TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE OPPORTUNITIES
11:26:35AM AFFORDED AND I THINK THAT WOULD PROBABLY ATTRACT EVERYBODY,
11:26:38AM INCLUDING THE BUILDERS AND EVERYBODY THAT IS TRYING TO DO
11:26:40AM BUSINESS WITH THE CITY AND WITH THE CRAs.
11:26:43AM I WOULD STRONGLY SUGGEST, MAYBE MAKE THE MOTION, WE MOVE
11:26:48AM ITEM 9 TODAY WITH A CAVEAT THAT CRA STAFF WILL ORGANIZE,
11:26:54AM COORDINATE WITH THE CACs AND ORGANIZE A COMMUNITY
11:26:59AM COMPREHENSIVE BRIEFING TO BRING EVERYBODY UP TO SPEED AND
11:27:03AM HAVE A DETAILED EXPLANATION OF WHAT THIS POLICY MEANS TO THE
11:27:07AM COMMUNITY.
11:27:07AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I WILL SECOND THAT ONLY WITH THE CAVEAT --
11:27:12AM I'M ONLY SPEAKING BECAUSE I'M SECONDING IT.
11:27:15AM I'M SECONDING IT WITH THE CAVEAT THAT IT HAPPENED BEFORE THE
11:27:18AM NEXT CRA MEETING.
11:27:19AM YES, BEFORE SEPTEMBER 11.
11:27:26AM LIKE EARLY SEPTEMBER.
11:27:29AM THEN WE GET A CHANCE TO COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT IT.
11:27:33AM >> CAN WE LIMIT THAT TO COMMERCIAL THEN?
11:27:36AM BECAUSE YOU ALL ARE -- I'M SORRY.
11:27:39AM CAN WE LIMIT THAT TO COMMERCIAL THEN?
11:27:41AM BECAUSE YOU ALL ARE MEETING ON THE --
11:27:44AM >>LYNN HURTAK: RESIDENTIAL ON SEPTEMBER 11.
11:27:46AM YES.
11:27:46AM I THINK IF YOU SIMPLY CLARIFY THAT DURING YOUR MEETING, THAT
11:27:49AM WOULD HELP.
11:27:52AM >> I'M FINE WITH THAT.
11:27:53AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:27:55AM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
11:27:57AM WE'LL HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION.
11:27:58AM BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA AND THEN BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:28:04AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
11:28:06AM BOTH OF YOU HERE NOW.
11:28:07AM MS. McCASKILL BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT ABOUT COMMERCIAL ON
11:28:10AM THE BOTTOM, RESIDENTIAL ON THE TOP.
11:28:12AM I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, HOW MANY
11:28:14AM OF THOSE HAVE WE FUNDED?
11:28:16AM I DON'T KNOW.
11:28:18AM >>DEE REED: WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY APPLICATIONS YET.
11:28:23AM BUT BASICALLY, HOW IT WORKS --
11:28:24AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: GOOD THING FOR THE FUTURE.
11:28:28AM >>DEE REED: CORRECT.
11:28:29AM IT IS IN EXISTENCE NOW.
11:28:31AM WE HAD SEVERAL PRE-APPLICATION MEETINGS BUT HAVEN'T RECEIVED
11:28:33AM APPLICATION.
11:28:34AM MAYBE THAT'S BECAUSE THERE WASN'T CLEAR UNDERSTANDING ON THE
11:28:37AM PROCESS.
11:28:38AM BUT HOW IT WOULD WORK, IF IT IS A REHAB, COMMERCIAL DIVISION
11:28:42AM COULD HELP WITH FUNDING OF THE COMMERCIAL SPACE AND HOUSING
11:28:45AM COULD ADDRESS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPONENT.
11:28:49AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: WITHIN THE SAME BUILDING, YOU SAVE LAND.
11:28:52AM >>DEE REED: CORRECT.
11:28:53AM IF IT IS NEW --
11:28:54AM >>LUIS VIERA: FOLKS TALKING IN THE AUDIENCE, WE CAN HEAR
11:28:57AM YOU.
11:28:57AM WE CAN HEAR YOU ALL, WHOEVER IS TALKING.
11:28:59AM I CAN'T SEE WHO.
11:29:00AM BUT IF YOU COULD CEASE THE SPEAKING SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THE
11:29:03AM MEETING.
11:29:04AM GO AHEAD, SIR.
11:29:05AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: I'M FINISHED.
11:29:06AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
11:29:07AM >>DEE REED: I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY.
11:29:09AM IF IT IS ABSOLUTE NEW CONSTRUCTION, THEN COMMERCIAL CANNOT
11:29:11AM CONTRIBUTE.
11:29:12AM THAT IS THE ONLY CAVEAT TO THAT.
11:29:14AM BUT THAT DOES NOT PROHIBIT THEM FROM APPLYING FOR FUNDS WITH
11:29:18AM THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPONENT.
11:29:20AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, MA'AM.
11:29:21AM THANK YOU, SIR.
11:29:22AM BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:29:23AM >>BILL CARLSON: AS I SAID EARLIER, I'M IN FAVOR OF HAVING A
11:29:27AM WORKSHOP, PUBLIC MEETING, WHATEVER, IN BETWEEN NOW AND THE
11:29:29AM NEXT MEETING SO THE PUBLIC CAN WEIGH IN.
11:29:31AM BUT I'M GOING TO VOTE NO ON THIS MOTION BECAUSE I THINK WE
11:29:34AM SHOULDN'T VOTE YES TODAY.
11:29:36AM WE SHOULD WAIT AND VOTE YES AFTER WE HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC IN
11:29:40AM A MORE ROBUST WAY.
11:29:42AM I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE TELLING THE PUBLIC.
11:29:44AM WE SHOULD BE HEARING.
11:29:45AM ALSO, ALTHOUGH YOU ANSWERED ONE OF MY QUESTIONS, I'M NOT
11:29:49AM SATISFIED WITH THE TRANSPARENCY AND THE EXPLANATION OF THE
11:29:57AM PROCESS FIRST ELECTION.
11:30:02AM ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS.
11:30:03AM I THINK WE SHOULD REVERSE THE PROCESS AND HAVE THE PUBLIC
11:30:05AM HEARING AND THEN TAKE THE INPUT AND TWEAK IT AND VOTE ON IT
11:30:08AM IN A MONTH.
11:30:09AM I DON'T THINK IT HURTS US TO WAIT A MONTH BECAUSE THIS HAS
11:30:12AM BEEN IN PROCESS FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
11:30:14AM INSTEAD OF TWEAKING IT AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN, WE CAN
11:30:17AM JUST TWEAK IT ONCE.
11:30:18AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:30:20AM BEFORE I GO FOR SECOND ROUND, COUNCILMAN MANISCALCO, DID YOU
11:30:22AM WANT TO SAY ANYTHING?
11:30:24AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: BEING THAT COUNCIL MEMBER HURTAK
11:30:28AM MENTIONED, IT IS POLICY.
11:30:29AM WE CAN MAKE CHANGES ON SEPTEMBER 11th.
11:30:31AM IT'S NOT PERMANENT.
11:30:33AM BUT WE HAVE TO MEET AN OCTOBER 1st DEADLINE, CORRECT?
11:30:36AM >>DEE REED: YES.
11:30:38AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: WE CAN VOTE YES TODAY TO MOVE IT FORWARD
11:30:40AM AND THEN SEPTEMBER 11th WE CAN CHANGE OUR POSITION, BUT
11:30:44AM THE COMMUNITY AT LEAST GETS TO HAVE SOME INPUT AND YOU GET
11:30:47AM TO MEET WITH THEM AND THEY CAN COME BACK AND SAY, LOOK, WE
11:30:50AM COMPLETELY DISAGREE AND WE CAN CHANGE IT ALL.
11:30:52AM THIS IS NOT PERMANENT TODAY IF WE MOVE FORWARD.
11:30:55AM I UNDERSTAND COUNCIL MEMBER CARLSON'S CONCERNS THAT THE
11:30:59AM APPEARANCE IS THAT WE'RE JUST MOVING IT, BUT IT'S NOT
11:31:02AM PERMANENT.
11:31:03AM ON SEPTEMBER 11, WE CAN MAKE CHANGES.
11:31:07AM AGAIN, THIS ROOM COULD FILL UP SEPTEMBER 11th AND PEOPLE
11:31:10AM COULD SAY WE'RE TOTALLY AGAINST ALL THIS.
11:31:12AM WE HAVE ANOTHER BITE AT THE APPLE ON SEPTEMBER 11th.
11:31:19AM >>DEE REED: JUST A REMINDER, THE ISSUES BEING BROUGHT UP ARE
11:31:23AM NOT ANY OF THE ISSUES THAT ARE BEING ADDRESSED IN THIS
11:31:26AM UPDATE.
11:31:26AM SO CHANGING THIS, WHETHER YOU APPROVE THIS UPDATE OR NOT,
11:31:30AM THOSE ISSUES THAT ARE BEING ADDRESSED ARE STILL GOING TO BE
11:31:33AM THEIR CONCERNS BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT CHANGING THE POLICY,
11:31:35AM WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE INTERIOR GRANT, AND THAT IS A
11:31:39AM FLORIDA STATUTE ISSUE.
11:31:41AM NOT APPROVING THE POLICY DOESN'T TAKE AWAY THOSE CONCERNS
11:31:45AM BECAUSE THOSE CONCERNS -- NOTHING THAT IS CHANGING ADDRESSES
11:31:49AM THOSE OR IMPACT THOSE QUESTIONS.
11:31:54AM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, REALLY FAST, WHEN I HEAR FROM THE
11:31:56AM PUBLIC ON THIS, AND WE HAVE OCTOBER 1st DEADLINE, MEETING
11:32:01AM SEPTEMBER 11th, I DO THINK THERE IS A RATIONAL BASIS AT
11:32:07AM THE VERY LEAST OF SAYING LET'S HAVE THAT MEETING AND LET'S
11:32:10AM VOTE ON IT THEN.
11:32:12AM I THINK IF WE VOTE ON SOMETHING NOW, THERE WILL BE A
11:32:14AM PRESUMPTION THIS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING.
11:32:16AM THAT'S MY ONLY CHALLENGE WITH IT IS WHETHER OR NOT YOU ADMIT
11:32:19AM IT, IT KIND OF LEADS TO A PRESUMPTION.
11:32:22AM CHANGING SOMETHING I THINK HAS A HIGHER THRESHOLD OR
11:32:26AM STANDARD.
11:32:27AM JUST MY THOUGHT.
11:32:28AM BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
11:32:29AM >>LYNN HURTAK: AGAIN, I DON'T DISAGREE.
11:32:31AM I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH MOVING THIS TO SEPTEMBER 11th VOTE.
11:32:34AM I SECONDED IT TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION.
11:32:36AM I DO THINK THAT MY CONCERNS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED, BUT MY
11:32:42AM CONCERNS WERE ADDRESSED WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT IN OUR PREP
11:32:46AM MEETING.
11:32:46AM BUT I DO THINK HAVING A MEETING FOR THE PUBLIC IS NOT A
11:32:52AM TERRIBLE THING TO DO.
11:32:55AM BUT IN THE CONTEXT OF REALLY BEING ABLE TO EXPLAIN WHAT IT
11:32:59AM IS WE'RE CHANGING AND THEN PUTTING ON TO THE SIDE MAYBE EVEN
11:33:05AM JUST HAVING SOMEONE WITH CHART PAPER TO TAKE THE QUESTIONS
11:33:08AM OF THE THINGS THAT ARE NOT IN HERE THAT WE CAN MAKE LATER,
11:33:11AM TO REALLY TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE OF THE TWO AND TO
11:33:14AM DIFFERENTIATE THEM.
11:33:15AM I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE PUBLIC IS CONFUSED.
11:33:19AM TO BE QUITE FRANK, I'M STILL A LITTLE CONFUSED AS YOU
11:33:22AM MENTIONED SO CLEARLY, THE ISSUES THAT PEOPLE HAVE ARE NOT
11:33:24AM ADDRESSED WITH THIS POLICY, BUT THERE IS A PERCEPTION OF
11:33:29AM THAT.
11:33:29AM I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO RESOLVE.
11:33:33AM I WILL ATTEND THE MEETING.
11:33:35AM I'LL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, I WON'T SPEAK.
11:33:38AM I'LL JUST GO TO LISTEN AND I WILL FOLLOW ALL THE RULES IF
11:33:42AM OTHER BOARD MEMBERS, SLASH, COUNCIL MEMBERS ATTEND, BUT I
11:33:45AM THINK IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT HAVING IT, BEING ABLE TO
11:33:48AM HEAR THE CONCERNS KIND OF ENCAPSULATE IT FOR MYSELF, I WOULD
11:33:54AM SUPPORT.
11:33:55AM >>DEE REED: WE MAY NEED TO MOVE THE EFFECTIVE DATE IF WE DO
11:33:59AM IT BECAUSE IT WILL SHORTEN THE LENGTH OF TIME PEOPLE WILL
11:34:02AM HAVE.
11:34:03AM THE ONES WAITING TO SUBMIT APPLICATIONS OCTOBER 1st, THEY
11:34:06AM WON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET THEIR DOCUMENT.
11:34:09AM THEY WERE WAITING ON HOPING TO GET AN APPROVAL TODAY.
11:34:12AM THEN THEY CAN GET APPLICATION, DOCUMENTS READY.
11:34:15AM SO IF WE WAIT UNTIL SEPTEMBER, NOW WE CUT THE AMOUNT OF TIME
11:34:18AM THAT THEY HAVE TO GET APPLICATIONS SUBMITTED.
11:34:21AM I'M NOT SAYING THAT -- I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THAT IF WE
11:34:26AM GET THE APPROVAL AND STILL MAKE CHANGES IN SEPTEMBER, THEY
11:34:29AM STILL HAVE HAD TWO MONTHS.
11:34:30AM AND IF SOMETHING CHANGES IN SEPTEMBER, IT IS A MINOR TWEAK
11:34:34AM AS OPPOSED TO THEM HAVING TO WAIT UNTIL SEPTEMBER TO START A
11:34:37AM PROCESS.
11:34:38AM >> WOULD IT HELP THEM TO GO THROUGH THE WORKSHOP AND THEN
11:34:40AM GET APPROVAL ON SEPTEMBER 11th?
11:34:44AM >>LUIS VIERA: FOR PURPOSES OF MOVING, BOARD MEMBER
11:34:47AM CLENDENIN, ANYBODY ELSE?
11:34:48AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: WHAT SHE SAID IS WHAT I WAS GOING TO TRY
11:34:52AM TO RECAPTURE.
11:34:54AM WHAT HAPPENS BY THE DELAY IS PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY LOSE
11:34:56AM OUT.
11:34:56AM SOMETHING THAT WOULD AVERSELY IMPACT PEOPLE IF WE DELAY FROM
11:35:01AM THE OCTOBER 1st DATE.
11:35:03AM PART OF THE PROPOSAL WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT THE MEETING IS
11:35:06AM GOING TO BE THAT CLARIFICATION.
11:35:08AM I THINK, AGAIN, A LOT OF THE CONCERNS THAT I HEARD EXPRESSED
11:35:11AM FROM THE COMMUNITY AND E-MAILS I'VE SEEN ISN'T PART OF THE
11:35:14AM CHANGE PROPOSAL.
11:35:15AM IT WOULD BE ADDITION, SO IT WOULD BE A SUBSEQUENT PROPOSAL
11:35:19AM DOWN LINE, IF WE ADOPT THAT ANYWAY.
11:35:22AM THIS PARTICULAR PROCESS, BY MOVING THIS FORWARD TODAY IS A
11:35:24AM STEP FORWARD FOR THE COMMUNITY AND STEP FORWARD FOR THE CRA.
11:35:31AM ABSOLUTELY, IT IS.
11:35:33AM >>LUIS VIERA: IF I MAY, NO STATEMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE.
11:35:36AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: NOTHING BAD ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL.
11:35:40AM IT ACTUALLY EXPANDS OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE THAT WILL GO
11:35:44AM INTO PLACE ON OCTOBER 1st.
11:35:46AM IF THERE'S ANY DEFICIENCIES, WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE SOME OTHER
11:35:50AM DATE OR ADDITIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE OR WHATEVER, PEOPLE
11:35:54AM WANT TO PROPOSE AND HAVE IT HASHED OUT FUTURE DATES.
11:35:57AM NOTHING IN THIS PROPOSAL THAT IS ADVERSE.
11:36:01AM ONLY THING MAY BE STUFF WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER.
11:36:04AM AGAIN, TALK TO YOUR LEGISLATORS.
11:36:06AM TALK TO YOUR PEOPLE IN TALLAHASSEE.
11:36:08AM ELECT BETTER REPRESENTATIVES AND THEN WE WON'T HAVE TO DEAL
11:36:10AM WITH THIS STUFF.
11:36:11AM >>LUIS VIERA: UNLESS ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION FROM CRA OR
11:36:13AM STAFF, ANYTHING FURTHER FROM STAFF?
11:36:15AM WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:36:18AM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
11:36:20AM THE MOTION IS TO PASS ITEM 9 AND TO HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING
11:36:26AM BETWEEN NOW AND SEPTEMBER 11 FOR THIS TO BE UPDATED TO US ON
11:36:29AM SEPTEMBER 11, CORRECT?
11:36:30AM LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
11:36:49AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: YES.
11:36:53AM >>GUIDO MANISCALCO: NO.
11:36:56AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M STILL CONCERNED ABOUT THE COMMUNITY.
11:37:00AM I'LL HAVE TO VOTE NO.
11:37:03AM >>ALAN CLENDENIN: YES.
11:37:06AM >>BILL CARLSON: NO.
11:37:11AM >>LUIS VIERA: NO.
11:37:12AM OKAY, COUNCIL.
11:37:16AM >>THE CLERK: MOTION FAILS.
11:37:17AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU.
11:37:18AM SINCE THAT FAILED, WHAT SHOULD WE DO?
11:37:22AM >>LYNN HURTAK: I'M GOING TO MOTION THAT THE STAFF HOLD A
11:37:25AM WORKSHOP PREFERABLY WITHIN THE COMMUNITY -- BEFORE SEPTEMBER
11:37:35AM 11th, PREFERABLY THE WEEK BEFORE SO PEOPLE HAVE A LITTLE
11:37:38AM BIT MORE TIME TO UNDERSTAND.
11:37:39AM WITH THE NEW DATE BEING NOVEMBER 1st FOR APPLICATION
11:37:54AM INPUT.
11:37:55AM >>LUIS VIERA: WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
11:37:58AM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:37:59AM MR. McCRAY, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENT ON THAT?
11:38:02AM BOARD MEMBER CARLSON, WHICHEVER ONE OF YOU WANT TO GO FIRST.
11:38:05AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE
11:38:08AM DISCUSSION.
11:38:08AM THERE WAS ONE COMMENT THAT WAS MADE RELATED TO THE
11:38:12AM APPLICATIONS.
11:38:13AM THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW THAT INVOLVE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
11:38:17AM SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.
11:38:20AM THANK YOU.
11:38:21AM WE WILL MOVE FORWARD ACCORDINGLY.
11:38:26AM >>BILL CARLSON: COULD I SUGGEST YOU ADDING TWO WORDS FOR THE
11:38:33AM PUBLIC WORKSHOP TO PRESENT AND TO GET FEEDBACK SO THAT --
11:38:38AM >>LYNN HURTAK: SURE.
11:38:39AM PRESENT AND GET FEEDBACK.
11:38:42AM I'LL ACCEPT THAT SUBSTITUTE.
11:38:48AM >>BILL CARLSON: A LOT OF GOVERNMENT AGENCIES, IF THEY HAVE
11:38:50AM AN HOUR, THEY'LL PRESENT FOR 55 MINUTES AND THEN SAY, OH,
11:38:54AM WE'RE OUT OF TIME.
11:38:55AM WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THERE'S SUFFICIENT TIME TO GET
11:38:57AM FEEDBACK.
11:38:58AM SECOND, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE STAFF.
11:39:00AM YOU ALL ARE WORKING WITH US, AND WE'RE BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY
11:39:05AM AND YOU TRYING TO NEGOTIATE THIS.
11:39:09AM I THINK AS I SAID EARLIER, A MONTH DELAY IS NO SIGNAL THAT
11:39:13AM YOU ALL DID ANYTHING WRONG OR WE DON'T APPRECIATE YOUR WORK.
11:39:16AM WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THE COMMUNITY IS SATISFIED BECAUSE
11:39:18AM THE MORE THEY ARE, THE BETTER WE KNOW THAT THIS WILL BE.
11:39:22AM >>LUIS VIERA: GUYS, IF I MAY, CONVERSATIONS IN THE AUDIENCE,
11:39:25AM PLEASE CEASE SO THAT WE CAN PROCEED WITH THE MEETING.
11:39:27AM THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COOPERATION.
11:39:30AM WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER HURTAK.
11:39:32AM SECONDED BY BOARD MEMBER CLENDENIN.
11:39:34AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:39:34AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:39:35AM SINCE I WAS OUT, DID WE PASS ALL THE REQUIRED APPROVALS?
11:39:40AM GREAT, GREAT.
11:39:41AM DO WE HAVE ANY MOTIONS? BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:39:44AM >>CHARLIE MIRANDA: NO, NONE, SIR.
11:39:46AM >>LUIS VIERA: MANISCALCO?
11:39:47AM HURTAK?
11:39:47AM CLENDENIN?
11:39:48AM BOARD MEMBER CARLSON.
11:39:49AM >>BILL CARLSON: I THINK THE OUTSOURCE AGREEMENT IS COMING UP
11:39:53AM NEXT MONTH.
11:39:54AM I WOULD ASK ALL OF YOU, WE CHANGED IT A LOT IN SIX, SEVEN
11:39:59AM YEARS AGO AND WE'VE TWEAKED IT SINCE THEN, BUT WE REALLY
11:40:01AM OUGHT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FIX ANY OF THE ISSUES THAT WE MAY
11:40:05AM HAVE EXPERIENCED SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE
11:40:08AM WORKS TOGETHER WELL.
11:40:10AM I'LL BE COMING BACK WITH SOME SUGGESTIONS NEXT MONTH OR
11:40:13AM WHENEVER IT IS PRESENTED.
11:40:14AM THANK YOU.
11:40:15AM >>LUIS VIERA: I WASN'T HERE FOR THIS, THE WORLD WAR I
11:40:18AM MEMORIAL MARKER, THAT IS SO CRITICAL FOR US TO PRESERVE
11:40:21AM THAT.
11:40:22AM SOMETHING DONE IN 1923 BY THE RED CROSS FOR AFRICAN AMERICAN
11:40:25AM SOLDIERS KILLED IN ACTION IN WORLD WAR I.
11:40:28AM AND IN SLIGHT OF COMMENTS MADE BY THE PRESIDENT ON THE
11:40:32AM SMITHSONIAN, SO IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT BLACK HISTORY,
11:40:34AM ESPECIALLY AFRICAN AMERICAN HEROES WHO GAVE EVERYTHING FOR
11:40:37AM THE COUNTRY.
11:40:38AM MR. McCRAY.
11:40:39AM >>CEDRIC McCRAY: THANK YOU FOR THE HIGHLIGHT.
11:40:42AM WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE THE NEXT STEP.
11:40:44AM LAST YEAR WAS THE FENCING, AND THIS IS THE NEXT COMPONENT.
11:40:48AM SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE -- BETWEEN THE EAST TAMPA CAC
11:40:51AM AND THE CEMETERY SOCIETY TO BRING THAT INTO FRUITION AND
11:40:54AM PARKS AND RECREATION AS WELL.
11:40:56AM I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT ONE ITEM THAT I OMITTED FROM THE
11:41:00AM DIRECTOR'S REPORT.
11:41:01AM YOU ALL APPROVED THE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THE TREE
11:41:04AM TRIMMING PROGRAM, AND I'VE BEEN INFORMED BY MS. PARKS THAT
11:41:07AM ALL THE MONIES ARE ENCUMBERED.
11:41:10AM WE'VE RECEIVED THAT LEVEL OF APPLICATION THUS FAR.
11:41:13AM I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL WERE AWARE OF THAT.
11:41:16AM >>LUIS VIERA: THANK YOU, SIR.
11:41:17AM WE HAVE A MOTION BY BOARD MEMBER MANISCALCO, SECONDED BY
11:41:20AM BOARD MEMBER MIRANDA.
11:41:21AM ALL IN FAVOR?
11:41:21AM ANY OPPOSED?
11:41:22AM THANK YOU, BOARD.
11:41:24AM THANK YOU, AUDIENCE AND PUBLIC.
11:41:27AM [ SOUNDING GAVEL ]
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